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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:09 PM
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Joe Trippi: "While crazy, this may be the best shot they have" (on the GOP and McCain dropping out)
When McCain Drops Out

Posted June 15, 2008 | 09:03 PM (EST)



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/when-mccain-drops-out_b_107236.html

When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.

I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee. Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in November.

Here's how it could happen:

At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.

But excuses or facts hardly matters. He won't be accepting his party's nomination.

The reasons are simple. He can't win. Now that Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee -- the polls all show that McCain's pro-war stance and Bush endorsement make him a lost cause in November. That combined with soft stand on litmus test conservative issues make him an unpopular candidate among the base. I know some Democrats that think the Republicans are planning to let McCain lose and 'sit this one out' so that they can hang the democrats with a bad economy and a war that is a morass. But that just isn't how they play. They play to win every hand -- think about 2000 with a popular Democratic president and good economy and a solid VP running for president. Why did they put up Bush? And why did they fight so hard? Because, you don't ever throw a game. And they're not going to throw this one.

McCain won't be the nominee.

By August, they'll have done something to try and pick away at Obama's popularity. They'll emphasize race, or whatever they can to get him to appear less than perfect. Then, they'll bring out of the woodwork a surprise candidate who can shift the story fast. With just two months before the election -- the new candidate will have little time to be 'vetted' but will be shiny and new, and will get a lot of media attention as Obama's newness will have become -- by then -- tarnished or at least no longer the surprise that it has been as he unseated Hillary.

So, who will be the Republican candidate that faces Obama in the fall?

I've spoken to a number of friends who -- when presented with this set of facts respond: "but they don't have anybody else." That's simply not the case.

Joe Trippi, campaign consultant and most notably Howard Dean's campaign manager, said of McCain dropping out: "While crazy, this may be the best shot they have."


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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:11 PM
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1. Here is a long shot for you
I found it very odd that Poppy would mention Jeb running at some point today.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:13 PM
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3. It would be bad enough that people would vote for McCain
If enough people voted for Jebbie to allow them to steal it YET AGAIN, I would truly have to jump out the window as I am always threatening to do.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:14 PM
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4. i don't think that mccain will be the nominee either- he's just a placeholder.
but i don't think that it will be jeb, either. the bush name just leaves too bad a taste in EVERYONE'S mouth at this point.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:01 PM
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12. "Curiouser and curiouser," as Alice said...
...not sure if you saw this thread I posted yesterday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3460867&mesg_id=3460867

...but it is in the same spirit as your comment here. Timing really is everything. Some things "happen," others are "planned."

:patriot:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:10 PM
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23. Jeb has one problem - his last name
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:13 PM
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24. I raised the idea of McSame naming him VP
earlier.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:13 PM
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2. Who else could the Repiggies run? Who has any excitement? Or will they resign to lose 08?
I think they have resigned to lose this election, blame the shitty economy and status of the country on Obama when he wins and then try to run the sober Bush (Jebediah) in 2012.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:17 PM
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5. Joe Trippi has lost his mind.....he thinks the MEDIA is fair and balanced!
not long after he left/got canned, from the Dean campaign, he was on a radio show. I spoke with him, my main question being the fricking right wing MEDIA, and he said they were pretty fair to Dean!!!!! this was after the campaign took a nosedive, largely when the M$M started taking him seriously and destroyed him

I asked him if I heard him correctly, and how he could possibly take that attitude. I didn't think fast enough to ask him if he was saying that in an effort to keep his bridges unburned, but I wish I had.

anyone who shows that sort of terrible, horrible judgment is not to be taken seriously, and I sure think this latest blather is one of the stupidest things I've heard in a long time
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:24 PM
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7. Mitt/Jebb
I predicted this long ago. That's what the Bush Crime Family wants. They get what they want most of the time.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:00 PM
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11. believe me, nothing would make me happier
the one thing the chimp has done has forever put the Bush imprimatur on the shit list

unless, of course, they know they have enough machines/voting systems hacked that elections are a mere charade
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:30 PM
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28. Xactly,
HORRIFYING!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:06 PM
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22. If you think that golf paraphernalia reveals that McCain is out of touch, what about
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:17 PM
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25. who cares? I'm no Obama fan....just anybody but the Rapeublicans does just fine w/me.
you didn't see the thread based on his idiotic golf garbage did you, including the completely inappropriate comments posted, all of which, save one or two out of fifty, were extremely, extremely antagonistic on several levels to McCain

they finally scrubbed it, but not before some DUers captured them

too bad you didn't see them, cause my guess is you won't see comments like that up on Obama's sight for much longer than they take to post, cause they have somebody watching for that sort of thing
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:19 PM
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26. here...we're all brothers on this planet
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:52 PM
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29. ...alas I am still stuck where I was before, except now the hole is deeper.
That says a lot.

:hi:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:23 PM
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6. Hmm, ask Senator Eagleton about that.
Oh, yeah, he's deceased. But George McGovern is still around.

The only thing the GOP can do worse than running McCain is to substitute someone else. So let's encourage them to do so. ;-)
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:26 PM
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8. I agree completely. McCain isn't their candidate.
There is a reason Limbaugh, Hannity, and the rest of the propaganda machine have undermined McCain consistently since the primaries began. They have their orders- McCain won't be the nominee.

How about "Mittens-Rice 08"?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:03 PM
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13. He only "came up from behind" when the others TANKED...
...it's like choosing the last kid for your team in school sports. If he's the last kid, you didn't CHOOSE him...you GOT him.

:rofl:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:56 PM
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9. And then we will see Mt. McCain utterly and completely lose its top.
Who would be the one to have to tell him?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:58 PM
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10. I think they should definitely go for it!
:evilgrin:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:11 PM
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14. Here's his list of last-minute GOP saviors
I don't know, but I don't really see a winner in the bunch:

Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:16 PM
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15. What, no Jeb?
:shrug:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:18 PM
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16. JEB! Just like a pig, but with slightly less of a bacon smell.
OINK!



:eyes:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:55 PM
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20. Aaauuuggghhh! Musgrave is slightly to the right of Genghis Khan.
Pawlenty isn't much better; he once floated a brilliant plan :sarcasm: to have anti-war protesters pay to be arrested! :dunce:
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YankmeCrankme Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:38 PM
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17. Not true...Clinton's second term his opponent was Bob Dole.
No way they were trying their hardest to win that one. lol
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elliotwayne Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:49 PM
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18. thanks
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:52 PM
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19. Hello.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:00 PM
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21. Nah, the GOOPers are too predictable
The don't change horses in the middle of the race. They'll follow McSame down the road to ruin.

Switching unworkable tactics in the middle of the game is a liberal trait not a conservative one.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:25 PM
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27. Mother, Mary, Joseph, JESUS!!! Who are they gonna' offer: JEB BUSH?
Aw hell!!! That would not surprise me!!! No NO! Not me!!!

But,...if Trippi's imagination comes close to accurate,...I figure they'd select someone unknown and unsuspecting, yet a complete "HO" and puppet. IMHO THAT would be their only chance,...a last minute unknown with a flawless background but nothing to brag about intelligence or depth/breadth of character.

Yup! IF Trippi's right,...the sharks would pick the perfect bait.
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