Military choppers fly over Denver during top secret drill

[merh]

Military choppers fly over Denver during top secret drill
By David Edwards | Uncategorized | Tuesday, 17 June 2008

A half-dozen military helicopters flew low over parts of Denver Monday night as part of a security drill organized by the U.S. Department of Justice. Denver police said they were aware of the operation, but could provide no details.

The secret drills coincided with preparations for the Democratic National Convention, which will take place in Denver in late August. The Denver Post reported that the military aircraft “buzzed above the Pepsi Center,” the site of the convention..

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http://rawstory.com/news08/2008/06/17/military-choppers-fly-over-denver-during-top-secret-drill/

and in related news

Denver stocks up on pepper weapon
City orders guns that fire special plastic balls
By Sara Burnett, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Tuesday, June 17, 2008

Denver police are stocking up on guns that fire a pepper spray-like substance instead of bullets - a less-lethal weapon used to disperse crowds - in advance of the Democratic National Convention.

The department recently ordered 88 Mark IV launchers and projectiles at a cost "in the low six figures," the company that makes the weapons stated in a news release Monday.

The request was for delivery in advance of the DNC, according to Louisville- based Security With Advanced Technology Inc.

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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/17/denver-stocks-up-on-pepper-weapon/

[annabanana]

1. And just who the hell do they think will be "storming the ramparts"

in Denver this summer. What massive angry crowd is expected?

I mean besides the oppo people..

[Bob Dobbs]

4. Black ops agents provacateur.

Otherwise the protests will be peaceful.

[Captain Hilts]

22. You always plan for the worst case scenario. Except for the Iraq War...

which was based on a best-case scenario.

[Bob Dobbs]

2. I will be here video taping the carnage.

"The whole world is watching."

Those were some scary assed, high tech military tools. Far advanced from the normal medical and news choppers we normally see. I watched for several minutes last night. They ran without lights and were stealth tech machines.

There will be interesting times in Denver in August.

[tanyev]

7. Everybody going to Denver needs to have their own cameras at the ready.

I'm trying to remember where the incident happened that a bunch of protestors were able to prove that a couple guys causing trouble in their ranks were actually cops or agents.

[RandiFan1290]

18. Here's one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow

"Peaceful protesters stop police provocateurs from starting a riot at the Stop the SPP protests in Montebello Quebec. The police admitted they were their officers. CEP President Dave Coles confronts men with rocks and sticks. Find out more about what's wrong with the SPP at www.canadians.org Help us make our documentary about the SPP and TILMA find out more at http://www.canadiansnanaimo.com/help.php"

[tanyev]

59. Yes, that's the one I was thinking of. Thanks.

I forgot that it happened in Quebec.

[TexasObserver]

30. Absolutely!! The only defense from the police state is VIDEO

If you don't get it on video, the story will always be whatever the police state says it is.

[formercia]

50. Extra memory cards

to store lots of pictures and a blank one to put in the camera in case there is risk of confiscation.

Get the micro memory chips that can be hidden almost anywhere and are tiny enough to elude all but the most rigorous search.

Without evidence, any case is weak.

There are memory cards that can automatically upload pictures to your email account without intervention.

Be sure the time and date stamping is on and the calendar and clock are on time.

[originalpckelly]

13. Yeah, there's been a lot of weird shit flying around town lately.

I wonder if they plan on testing that microwave crowd dispersal system?

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. They were blackhawks, no stealth

stealth by the way has to do with the cross section on radar

[lpbk2713]

44. Do it from a second story window.

The Brown-shirts will probably have instructions to seize all cameras.

[tridim]

3. I'm going to be watching the Recreate68 people like a hawk.

My guess is that they'll be trying to incite riots the whole time.

[Bob Dobbs]

5. Cointelpro.

Black ops.

[Captain Hilts]

14. What's their motivation? Dems are all against the war. nt

[tridim]

16. Their motivation is to create chaos on CIA orders. nt

[Captain Hilts]

17. The CIA is totally pissed off at GWB for making them the fall-guy when it was...

his own Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon that foisted this war on us and was set up specifically to go around the CIA.

[readmoreoften]

55. Maybe OSP maybe DIA. Or, hell, could be CIA. They're not suddenly liberals.

Or elements of the CIA. It's the FUCKITUP crew.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Not the CIA but you are correct that somebody wants them to get

out of hand

Executive Order 51 comes to mind

But for once this is not CIA

[Parche]

6. Denver

I wonder if the CIA will have a 'False Flag' operation that day?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :hi:

[Subdivisions]

That was my thought! The Taliban prisoners will show up there. n/t

[elehhhhna]

38. but but but that's why we hafta fight them over THERE!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

8. Good gawd.

That comments section on the RMN is a budding asylum for the criminally insane. Except for a few posters, it just a bunch of mouthbreathers trying to "Out-Savage-Weiner" each other.

[vinylsolution]

9. Hilarious!

Considering the real riots will be in Minneapolis....

[originalpckelly]

11. No, I can't tell you how I know this, but I know the police in Denver...

are extremely worried about major riots during this convention. They were hoping that one of the sports teams would win a championship so that they could have practice in riots. No BS, either.

[tridim]

19. Have you been listening to Peter Boyles' show the past year?

He's been talking about riots since the day the convention was announced. He even has recreate68 people on his show to spout their bullshit.

IMO Boyles is inciting riots. If they happen I will blame him at least in part.

[originalpckelly]

25. Nope.

I don't listen to talk radio anymore, but I may have to to monitor this situation.

[originalpckelly]

10. I'm just waiting for all hell to break loose.

If I get my money before then, I'm going to figure out a way to get a RC flown camera up in the sky watching those SOBs like hawks, literally!

I think the best route to go with is WIFI, and use a camcorder with a webcam feature to stream back video over the connection to a ground based PC.

Problem is that it's going to cost, maybe I can get a local TV station to chip in?

They have these MiniZepps, blimps designed to carry high quality cameras. I wonder if the local stations would enter a partnership?

[Captain Hilts]

12. Top Secret? Helicopters can't do ANYTHING quietly - especially in a city! nt

[originalpckelly]

15. People heard the helicopters, they don't know what they were up to.

[Bob Dobbs]

20. Those were unlike any helicopters I have ever seen.

Stealth technology, no running lights, very fast and super maneuverable.

Quite frightening, actually.

[Magrittes Pipe]

23. Stealth helicopters?

Wouldn't the "thwup-thwup-thwup-thwup" give them away? :shrug:

[originalpckelly]

33. Oh yeah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAH-66_Comanche

[Bob Dobbs]

57. They ran quiet, had no lights whatsoever, and were more high tech

than any choppers I have seen.

Much more maneuverable than Jet Rangers.

[tuckessee]

21. Training to supress the rabble. n/t

[InternalDialogue]

24. A photo from my front yard Monday evening.

Our neighborhood association gave us a heads up about this a month ago. The notice mentioned that training was scheduled for both June 16 and 17 from 10:00 a.m. to midnight, but no guarantees on when during those periods it would occur.

Those local newspaper stories mention a lot of people who were caught by surprise, but our neighborhood was very aware of it. :shrug:

BTW, this was not near the Pepsi Center, where the convention will be held. It's across downtown about five miles.

[originalpckelly]

27. Holy crap!

Very interesting. Thanks for the photo InternalDialogue!

[originalpckelly]

28. Those look like blackhawk helicopters.

I'm going to look this up!

[Arctic Dave]

29. Looks like a pretty standard Blackhawk helicopter to me.

What makes it super secret?

[originalpckelly]

32. There's something on it's nose, and that ain't no copter-zit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Black_hawk.jpg

The secret part is what they're doing with the helicopters, and beyond a vague reference to a drill, they didn't what they're being used for.

[elehhhhna]

39. missing nuke warhead, anyone?

[originalpckelly]

41. Shyeah...

the way that shit's fucked up in this nation, nothing surprises me anymore!

[tridim]

49. Damn, that just sent a chill up my spine.

I don't think they are that stupid, but still. :scared:

[Arctic Dave]

54. The zit on the nose (LOL) is their FLIR system

(Forward Looking Infra Red) If I had to guess the "secret operation" is most likely SWAT and Delta teams working together. If you have a lot of high profile people I would assume the city would have a crisis team available "just in case" because there are a lot of idiots out there who do stupid stuff. Never the less keep us informed, I have many relatives that live in the Mile High City and a brother who works at the cash register building.:hi:

[InternalDialogue]

37. Dunno.

Like I said, our neighborhood was given advance notice about the exercise.

From what I can tell from the newspaper stories, it sounds like a lot of other people around downtown didn't know ahead of time. On my street, we all gathered outside with cameras.

[originalpckelly]

31. That copter looks like it has some kind of imaging system attached to the nose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Black_hawk.jpg

That's the clean version of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-60_Black_Hawk

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Yep, that's a blackhawk

[Major Hogwash]

47. Thanks for the picture.

We've had a lot of helicopters fly around here over the last few years.
Some of them left the base here last month, but no one outside of the military knows why they left or where they went.

Now I think we know.
I think that this probably is one of those newly upgraded Black Hawks.
They have very sophisticated imaging and communication equipment aboard those choppers.
The latest and greatest in technology, as they say.

[InternalDialogue]

48. You're welcome.

If the exercises are continued tonight, as we'd been informed, I will try for more and clearer shots, including the other two helicopter models that were involved last night. I'm not an expert at all, but they were the smaller Bell "bubble" chopper style and a gunship style.

[originalpckelly]

51. Yeah, you look at those suckers...

they definitely have zits!

[poliscifanboy]

26. obviously this is all part of bushes plan to retain power

He will stop at nothing to stay in power, this is all part of his plan.
I just hope that someone foils this one before he can manage to steal another election.

[Vickers]

34. Are the same precautions being prepared for the RNC convention in Minneapolis?

:shrug:

[elehhhhna]

40. Why? Is anyone actually gonna show up? LOL

[Ian David]

35. After death of Emerson College Student, Boston group seeks end of pepper-ball gun use by police.

By Andrea Estes, The Boston Globe Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News

Nov. 5--A group of Boston professors, lawyers, and students called yesterday for an immediate ban on the use of so-called "less lethal" weapons in Boston, such as the pepper ball gun that killed Emerson College student Victoria Snelgrove during a Red Sox celebration last month. Members of the group said they have gathered nearly 1,000 signatures in a petition drive launched this week.

Related Results
Police: Local pepper guns not lethal


"We should be able to celebrate a Red Sox victory without worrying about the use of chemical weapons ...

More:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5553/is_200411/ai_n22266376


See also:



Victoria Snelgrove
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Victoria "Torie" Snelgrove (Family Photo)

Victoria Snelgrove (October 29, 1982 – October 21, 2004) was a student who was accidentally killed by Boston police about an hour and a half after the Boston Red Sox's victory over the New York Yankees in the 2004 American League Championship Series. Snelgrove was a junior majoring in journalism at Emerson College, to which she had transferred from Fitchburg State College in the fall of 2003. She was 21 years old when she died. She was mortally wounded near Fenway Park when an FN 303 blunt trauma / pepper spray projectile — classified as a less-lethal weapon — hit her in her eye, causing her to bleed excessively. Ambulances were blocked by the excessive crowds which still refused to clear the area, preventing prompt medical attention from arriving from the dense medical area only a half-mile away. Snelgrove died at 12:50 p.m. EDT at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, about 12 hours after being shot. According to the autopsy, the pellet opened a three-quarter-inch hole in the bone behind the eye, broke into nine pieces, and damaged the right side of her brain. A video of the scene shows the crowd dispersing once they realized the severity of her injury as she lay face-down on the ground bleeding.

Boston Police Department Commissioner Kathleen O'Toole placed the police officer involved in the incident on leave. O'Toole later attended the hour-long funeral on October 27, 2004, at St. John's Catholic church in East Bridgewater, Massachusetts along with Mayor Thomas M. Menino and Gov. Mitt Romney.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Snelgrove

[deaniac21]

36. I can see it now...

?v=0

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Oh posse comitatus, we knew you so well

[Iodine99]

52. Military planes in Denver

I see nothing wrong with the military planes in Denver. In 2006 when G W Bush came to Sugar Land, they had military helicopters all over the sky.

[XOKCowboy]

53. I can't wait for August (snark)

I'll we working downtown during the DNC and I'm dreading it. It was bad enough during the G8 and the Pope's visit but this will be 10X that. I'm looking hard for road gigs that month. I feel sorry for the 9-5 downtown workers the most. It's hard enough to get into and out of DT Denver on a normal day.

[Initech]

56. Is this to prevent Limbaugh and those assholes from rioting?

All I have to say is that that place had better still be standing when I visit in October otherwise I'm taking that fat fuck down myself.

[jazzjunkysue]

58. There are regular death threats against Barack. Doesn't it make sense that

with him under presidential level secret service all the time that they'd worry about the concention?

I really don't think there are 4 people who think american protestors are going to do anything scary enough to warrant this.

It's got to be because so many senators and congress people are there, along with Barack.

[TheWatcher]

60. What's even more interesting is that someone in Denver posted last night

that this was going on, and it was mostly met with giggling and snickering.

I guess it's not so funny now, is it?

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