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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:19 PM
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When do you think a VP will be chosen? I am ready for yard signs
went to my local Dem Office and they don't think they will have any yard signs until the convention



bla

I am ready for them NOW
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:32 PM
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1. I don't know who will be picked for Obama's VP But.....
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 01:35 PM by Howler
I HOPE it will be Bill Richardson.
I'm sorry but we really need Gov Strickland ( Please Pardon my spelling)too stay here in Ohio too clean up after the past republican malfeasance on a state level.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:33 PM
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2. Real soon
Patty Solis Doyle's newly created position with the Obama campaign is chief of staff for the VP choice.

Coupled with her responsibilities in the outreach to the Hispanic community, there are rumors its a strong signal that Obama has already got someone in mind.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:38 PM
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3. traditionally they pick a VP....
...a week before the convention or during the convention.

So you have some time to wait and they are not in a rush.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:38 PM
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4. Traditionally,
the vice-presidential candidate makes his or her first appearance at the convention. All the brouhaha about who Obama's going to select (I don't care who McCain chooses) is nothing but cable news blather, something to talk about to fill up the time. The candidate needs time to consider, to vet, to interview, to make a decision. Late August will be here sooner than anyone thinks.

I think it's going to be a great convention, by the way.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:51 PM
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5. Oh me too!
This whole primary and election is riveting.
I haven't been so glued to cable news since the First gulf war , Then the 2000 election,then sadly 911.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:31 PM
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6. I'm old
Old enough to remember the conventions being really wild floor fights, televised in black and white, people going to bed without knowing who would be the nominee.

Now it's all choreographed and planned and totally predictable, right down to the moment the ceiling opens and all those red-white-and-blue balloons fall down and everyone pretends to be surprised.

But I'm cheered by the energy Obama inspires, as well as the fear he's obviously churning up in the right-wing-nuts of the other party, so I am quite prepared for all kinds of dirty tricks to take place in Denver. In Chicago in 1968, so much of what went on was - alas - theatrics, stirred up by people who wanted attention and used the bodies of sincere young people to get it. Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman were showmen, not revolutionaries, and, when the dust settled, they won the 1968 election - and our continued involvement in Vietnam - for Richard Nixon.

I don't want anything like that to happen in Denver this year.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:53 PM
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7. I really think Denver...
Is going to be a celebration not a travesty.I haven't believed in any politics or politicians like i'm believing in Obama and his movement. And I'm a 48 year old so I can only imagine what the younger folks are feeling.

LOL! BTW I have an Abby Hoffman Bumper sticker that Quotes "Sacred Cows Make The best Hamburgers" But I can understand what you are saying Tangerine Labamba. However since Ronald Reagan politics and politicians have only really been about sound bites and BIG personality's If you ask me.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:46 PM
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9. Welcome to DU, Howler .......
....... and, while I'm at it, let me tell you that it's nice to have someone around who's old enough to remember life before Ronald Reagan and company.

Abby Hoffman had his moments, I don't dispute that, but, in the end, he was focused on self-aggrandizement and not on social change. I do think, though, that he really tried. Jerry Rubin, on the other hand, was nothing but a callow opportunist, as his life after Chicago bore out.

I think Obama, while possessed of a BIG personality, is also immensely talented, and smart enough to know how to play the game above the heads of the traditional players. That's part of what makes him so exciting for me; I remember JFK coming into office after Eisenhower, and it was like watching a flower open.

You reminded me of one of my favorite jokes:

Why is it called 'hamburger'?

Because no one is ever going to order a ground cow burger.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:08 PM
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13. hAHAHA Ground Cow Burger! Thats pretty good LaBamba!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 05:14 PM by Howler
I totally understand your feelings about Hoffman, and Rubin.
One of the biggest fights I ever had with my mother was over who exactly was responsible for Kent State. I felt the Yippies were every bit as responsible for those students deaths as the National Guard. (going to catch some heat here I bet.)
However, I truly think that at that time it took "Big personalities" to rally and focus the anti war movement to start a serious national dialog.

I keep wanting to say Obama is a blue dog democrat. What's your thinking on that Tangerine LaBamba?

Thanks for the welcome! I didn't know the D.U existed or i would've been here in "04"
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:14 PM
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14. I was at Antioch when Kent State took place
There was a demonstration, yes, that the Guard was called out to control. It wasn't any different from thousands of demonstrations going on at campuses all over America. Were the Yippies the inspiration? I can't say. At that point, there was a viable network of anti-war protestors who kept the balls rolling and the voices roaring all over the country. William Sloane Coffin, the Berrigan Brothers, a lot of people in the New Catholic Left. I'm not sure the Yippies made any meaningful appearance until Chicago, or, possibly just a bit before. Chicago, 1968, was their main event, though.

Well, you're here now, and that's all that matters.

And, you can call me Tangy.....................
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:28 PM
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15. Dang nabbit. LOL!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 05:29 PM by Howler
Doesn't that just figure. My MOM was probably right AGAIN. HOOOOWWWWW:LLLLLL.
Thanks I needed an objective opinion on Kent State.
I just love this place I noticed there sometimes is alot of pissing and moaning about how this site has supposedly gone down hill.
But I gotta tell ya Tangy when i can read an article here at the D.U that the cable and network press doesn't pick up for 2 to 4 days I'm impressed.That doesn't even begin to cover the expos e's the media doesn't dare broadcast I've read here.Not to mention all the varied perspectives the posters have on any given subject.I find This place absolutely invigorating.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:45 PM
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16. Wow Tangy you really know your stuff!!!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 05:49 PM by Howler
Heres what wikipedia says about the yippies and Kent State. BTW You are right again in their coming to prominance at the "68" democratic convention.Damn how could James Mitchner got it so wrong about Kent State LOL!. Or more then likely I GOT IT WRONG>

The Yippie movement
The Youth International Party quickly spread beyond Rubin, Hoffman and the other founders. YIP had chapters all over the US and in other countries, with particularly active groups in New York, Vancouver, Milwaukee, Los Angeles, Columbus and Chicago. During an anti-war protest in Washington, D.C., on November 15, 1969, East Coast Yippies led thousands of youths in the storming of the Justice Department building.<21> On August 6, 1970, L.A. Yippies invaded Disneyland, hoisting the New Nation flag at City Hall.<22> Vancouver Yippies invaded the U.S. border town of Blaine, Wash., on May 9, 1970, to protest Nixon's invasion of Cambodia and the shooting of students at Kent State.<23> Chicago organized events and hosted national events well into the 80s. A frequent complaint heard from the chapters outside of NYC was that New York acted as if they did not exist anymore and kept them out of the decision making. New York was generally considered the headquarters of YIP, yet not everyone agreed that YIP should even have a headquarters.

In 1972, Yippies and Zippies (a younger YIP offshoot whose "guiding spirit" was Tom Forcade) staged protests at the Republican convention in Miami.<24> Some of the Miami protests were larger and more militant than the ones in Chicago in 1968. After Miami, the Zippies evolved back into Yippies.<25>

Yippies organized marijuana smoke-ins across North America through the 1970s and into the '80s. The annual July 4 Yippie smoke-in in Washington, D.C., became a counterculture tradition.<26>
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:00 PM
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19. I'm old,
so it's easy to remember a lot of that stuff - so far. It could be gone from my head in a matter of minutes, but, so far, so good.

The Yippies were entertainers, as I said. They didn't have any real political agenda, other than a kind of ragtag anarchy, except there were too many big egos to tolerate anarchy. In the end, the Yippies weren't all that significant. I read the Wikipedia stuff with interest, but the truth is that I don't recall noticing them at the time. The real protests were more important.

I was heavily involved in a lot of it. The Berrigan brothers were my first bail bond hearing clients. I had no idea what to do, as a brand new lawyer, but I got them out on their own recognizance. I think the judge was just afraid to leave them in the slammer, because they'd stir up more trouble than anyone could ever calm down. They were great. And real.

The Yippies weren't real. But, at the trial of the Chicago Seven, there were real peaceniks, like David Dellinger and Tom Hayden.

That was such a long time ago, but it seems like yesterday.........
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:21 PM
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21. YOU were the lawyer of social revolutionary;s?
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 06:22 PM by Howler
YOU SO ROCK!!!! OMG you were in just has much trouble and under government investigation as they were.Unfortunately just like the lawyers defending the so called terrorist's now. You are sending me too google i don't even know who the Berrigan brothers,or David Dellinger are I'm sad too say but i'm going to find out.
I was born in 59 so i was 11 or less when these momentous social events and changes happened.THIS IS SO FU&#ING COOL.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:00 AM
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22. All right, honey
You go and find out about the heroes of contemporary American history.

Google "COINTELPRO," and get a look at what our government did to people who wanted to effect changes. Find out about J. Edgar Hoover and his hate campaign against the Black Panthers and Martin Luther King, Jr. and others.

If you have any questions that I might be able to answer, PM me, and I'd be glad to give you whatever I've got.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:53 PM
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17. Yeah, it's a great place
It has its shortcomings - as I see them - but, like a TV set, you can turn them off and go on to something else.

Your mother was right. Mothers are always right. You didn't know that?
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:59 PM
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18. Oh Yeah! Just ask her LOL!!! N/T
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:04 PM
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8. They don't have one Obama sticker in AZ the lame ass state.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:50 PM
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10. Kerry announced the choice of Edwards on July 6, 2004

so about 3 weeks from now if Obama adopts a similar time frame.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:05 PM
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12. The convention in 2004 was at the end of July. This time its a month later
In 1992, Clinton named Gore the week before the convention. Gore followed the same approach in 2000. Kerry pushed it up a bit, naming Edwards on July 6, and the convention was the last week in July. The convention this time is the last week of August and I doubt Obama will name a running mate seven weeks out from the convention. Based on past practice, early to mid August would seem like the likely time frame.

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me for Obama to throw out the old play book and do it differently than its been done in the past.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:55 PM
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11. HAVEN'T YOU HEARD????? He picked
OPRAH!

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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:02 PM
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20. Here in Southpark I did see an Obama yard sign.
But its the only one I've seen.
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