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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:41 PM
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Critical thinking exercise for the RW: WHY are there supposed to be massive riots in Denver?
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 01:56 PM by Richardo
This question should be asked of any of the Limbaughts who prattle on and on about this crap. Force them to do a little critical thinking, or STFU. :patriot:

The incumbent party, the party of the War, failing economy and revoking civil liberties is convening in Minneapolis. The riots in Chicago were a result of 1) reactions against the incumbent Democratic party - the party responsible for the turmoil of the day; and 2) the OVERreaction of Mator Daley and the Chicago Police.

I would expect protesters in Denver (after all, it would hardly be a Democratic gathering without them) but WHO precisely is expected to riot, and for what conceivable reason?



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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:43 PM
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1. hasn't oxyboy 'called' for riots in denver??...
like, his 'operation chaos' worked so well and all....
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:44 PM
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2. because it's the Republicans' last best hope?
no idea
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:45 PM
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3. Plants by the RNC to discredit any opposition to their war. You cannot even believe your
own eyes anymore.

And since the country has taken a vacation from logical thought, this COINTELOP will succeed.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:46 PM
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4. The Bible foretold it? Nostradamus predicted it?
Would you believe a fat pig?


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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:47 PM
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9. Man, if the Denver police are spending > $100K in riot gear based on the rantings of Captain 'Chaos'
They are real idiots.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:21 PM
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19. Hmm...
...I wonder who in Colorado politics has connections to Blackwater?



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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:46 PM
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5. It's a Republican fantasy
Created in Rushbo's over-medicated brain.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:46 PM
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6. HAHAHAHA!!!
Wishful republican thinking!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:46 PM
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7. Because the corporate-owned media are hoping to increase profits?
Think of how little fun the so-called journalists will have if the Democratic Convention goes smoothly. Now think of how much their little narcissistic peabrains would rejoice in being able to report breathlessly on riots?

Which do you think the talking heads are hoping to see?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:47 PM
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8. Democrats are happy. Why in the world are they worried about Denver?
It's just an excuse for the Denver police to spend a lot of taxpayer money -- and for the people who sell this junk to load up on it.

Lot's of Democrats will want to go to Denver just to be able to tell their grandchildren and children they were there for the momentous nomination of Obama, but riots???????

More like celebrations of joy and harmony, but not riots.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:48 PM
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10. A 'suggestion' from OxyRush is perceived as a 'command' by his brainless shittoheads.


Link: http://www.westword.com/2008-05-01/news/rush-to-riot/full

Local authorities aren't taking any chances and they are making preparations.

It amazes me how these shittoheads mindlessly follow this asshole with the background he has.

:shrug:




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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:56 PM
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14. There are going to be enormous crowds, and the plants will do everything possible
to incite some violence. They've done this all over the place right? Wasn't the most recent one in Canada where the cops were found to be posing as protestors trying to stir up violence?

These people will do anything to expand their power.

Shittoheads... HAH love it. My wife last night said that listening to Hannity is like having a "Poop-slurry pipeline installed in your cortex."

when I asked her what "Poop-slurry" is she explained that "Poop-slurry is like that sort of foamy poop you get that's not quite water but not quite poop. It floats to the top of the toilet that is a fundy brain." :rofl:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:00 PM
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16. Your wife knows her way around a metaphor
:rofl:

Kudos!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:03 PM
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17. Yeah she's a gem. If she ever stops drinking she'll leave me :P n/t
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:49 PM
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11. because news corp wants to build anticipation and ratings
nt
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:53 PM
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12. Meanwhile, Minneapolis/St. Paul are NOT sequestering protesters
into "free speech" cages. Now, guess where the actual Dem protesters will be: the Twin Cities, or Denver? What Denver is gearing up for are fake protests by fake protesters designed to create the appearance of division within the Democratic party. Watch for pictures of wild-eyed (but neatly dressed) Republican operatives wearing Obama buttons and throwing rocks at Denver police. It's all about the political theater. Clearly the local authorities in Denver have gotten the memo from the RNC, and they're going along for the ride. It's analogous to Chicago in that the "riots" there were largely instigated by the cops in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:55 PM
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13. "Disenfranchised Hillary supporters"
That's the talking point the MSM wants to push. In reality, the Republican Convention will have some unrest. Ron Paul is holding his own side convention. :rofl:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:00 PM
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15. Because Repiglickin Provocateurs Will Start Them
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:10 PM
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18. Democrats are more emotional
I believe they tend to be more emotional than republicans. They are not tough with Republicans but tend to favor infighting.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:27 PM
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20. what?
this is the second misinformed gross generalization I have seen from you.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:39 PM
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22. duh, of course it is a general statement....
as is most statements and opinions are.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:42 PM
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23. my point was that it was misinformed and generalized
not to mention you saying "they" referring to Democrats is a bit telling, don't you think?

The "Democrats are emotional/Republicans are rational" is a tired old saw which gets regular play on Rush LImbaugh's show. Maybe you're not in the right place, because here we realize that all kinds of people exhibit rationalism and emotions.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:45 PM
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24. I never said Republicans were any more rational
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 02:48 PM by moreno
But Democrats tend to be more emotional than Republicans.

I would say, Democrats are emotional and Republicans are angry.

Of course its a general statement but they do stand out as I critically look at how they conduct themselves
in the media or when I debate them 1 on 1.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:51 PM
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25. so you are saying you are not a Democrat
and that anger is not an emotion?

Ironically, I seem to be the rational one at the moment.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:55 PM
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26. why would you assume...
...that i'm angry or irrational. We are in a civil discussion.
Why does it matter if i'm a Democrat, Republican or neither, i'm a critical thinker.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:03 PM
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28. it doesn't matter what party you are in
it does matter in that this site is for promotion of Democratic ideals.

I have been Independent the vast majority of my voting life, so I don't care if you are a Democrat or not, but you seem to be doing little more than arguing here. There's a name for that which I won't call you, but I don't understand why someone would waste their precious time doing nothing but being disruptive.

If you are here with good intentions, then sit down and read some things and try to learn something. I don't care, but when someone with less than 10 posts makes (at least) two semi-inflammatory posts, then it makes me wonder.

And for the record, as far as critical thinking goes, your original statement that Democrats are more emotional struck me as something I am sick of seeing. It's a tired old argument without anything to back it up. Perhaps you could use your critical thinking skills to explain or use examples of Democrats being more emotional (read: "weak" or "irrational" by most Republicans and "Libertarians" I know) to illustrate your point, and I would be less likely to disagree.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:18 PM
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29. Now you are being emotional
Promoting Democratic ideals is not unique to the Democratic party for one, or you misunderstand the word completely.

I state my case and you responded...you don't have to respond. Silence should be your best weapon. I did not force you to say
something to me.

What bad intentions would I have. We are not robots and not everyone thinks the same. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I have bad intentions....it means I have a different perspective and that should be respected.

If you disagree with me, just simply disagree. If you want to challenge my argument then do so. No need to get mad or emotional about it.

I should not have to wear a scarlet letter simply because I have a low post count. That is ridiculous.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:34 PM
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31. I'm not getting emotional.
I am saying that there are rules to posting here.

You essentially said that "Democrats are more emotional" and something about infighting in response to why would people expect a riot at the Convention. I stated that your basic premise is wrong and that it is an old meme and not accurate.

I'm still waiting for the critical thinking part to happen.
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:00 PM
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36. so I'm wrong because you say so?
Thats a great comeback. Just this infighting between Hillary and Obama and the voters is clear enough the level of emotion that took place.
You have women now stating they won't vote for Obama, "just because". And would rather throw the election to McCain.
Sounds emotional to me.

Then comments from the black community were just the same if Obama had lost.

Clear signs of emotion if you ask me.

There was nothing worse than watching Hillary slowly assassinate Obama's character knowing she was losing the race but she didn't care.
Sounds like infighting to me.

Do you want more?

This same behavior caused the riots in the past.

There was nothing civil about the whole thing.

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:51 PM
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37. Obama is leading McCain by rather large numbers with women voters
I'd hardly call that what you and the media say it is.

Yes, the primary got a bit ugly, but they often do. Do you remember Voodoo Economics?

My original point is that people are emotional, and frankly you yourself agreed when you said "Republicans are angry." Is anger not an emotion? Your statement is insulting because it attempts to paint the Democrats as "weak" but uses a very human trait which we all share, short of sociopaths.

Now that we have a candidate, most Democrats are supporting Obama, as are quite a few Republicans and Independents. Know why? Because McCain's positions are not only weak, but his campaign represents a continuation of what we already have: failure. Rational people recognize this. Irrational people will continue to vote for the GOP and expect different results this time, thinking mistakenly that THIS TIME the Republicans will actually do what they say they want to do, instead of just pissing on the Constitution, on equality, and on the Government (ie: on us all over again).

There is absolutely zero evidence that there will be riots in Denver, short of Limbaugh telling his listeners to incite them. Why would there be? Seriously. Do you hear Clinton or anyone else telling their supporters to riot? Of course not. It's ridiculous.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:26 PM
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38. k&r
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moreno Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:10 PM
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39. You are right....
There is no clear evidence that there will be riots. There will be dissent but probably no riots.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:38 PM
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32. Republicans are more likely to be criminal and uncivil.


:shrug:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:55 PM
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35. What does that have to do with the price of coffee in China?
I think both Dems and Pukes are angry. And that anger is toward the current administration who for the last eight years, have made fools out of their fellow republicans. No, it's the Republican convention that I would expect riots at, but we'll see.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:30 PM
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21. Because the SPEC- OP Black Choppers flying in Denver yesterday are gonna set it all in motion
according to their Internal Defense procedures per that manual

liberated by a whistleable that's over at

wikileaks.com


You know, it wasn't so long ago that the police didn't train with Special Operations troops

in preparation for domestic response. It was simply understood that the military didn't operate domestically.

A little thing called Posse Comitatas.

now, that thread is full of oneliner jokes

and few really are seeing the seriousness of such foreshadowing.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:02 PM
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27. There will be "undercover" agents provocateur who will do the dirty work.
the wingers are already planning it
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:27 PM
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30. but.. but.. but...won't the people in Denver that will be rioting be republicans?
I can't see Dems rioting..what would they have to riot about?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:42 PM
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33. This is my point.
If the Republicans are rioting, how does that reflect badly on the Dems?

Answer: Limbaugh is an idiot.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:47 PM
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34. delete
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 03:49 PM by notadmblnd
I've already responded to this thread
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