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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:22 PM
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Erik Prince mansion. Your taxpayer dollars at work.
What a ghoul. How many dead Iraqis, Erik? How many dead Iraqis?

http://cryptome.org/erik-prince/erik-prince.htm



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:26 PM
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1. i hate that style of house...looks like a freakin' country club, or a bank
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:28 AM
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29. Actually, think plantation. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:50 AM
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40. Georgian-we have a whole community of this in Central Ohio of new money and lots of
oversize FUVs.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:18 PM
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44. "Fusion" Architecture
Like Fusion restaurants. Drives me batty.

Antebellum porch on a Colonial with Cape Cod dormers and a "Norman" roof.

We have the Fusion homes all over Nashville. A lot of them have turrets, too.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:29 PM
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2. I bet a lot a freaky shit goes on inside that house.
Let's put Prince out of business next year.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:31 PM
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3. Not just Iraq.
Blackwater is all over the globe, training and actually contracting "security services".

The were already deployed to handle the po' black folks in Katrina with extreme prejudice, and will be coming to a neighborhood near you in the near future.

This is the most dangerous development brought about by the busholini inc contract on america, (and, baby, that's saying something). One of the first things a Barak administration must do is pass anti-mercenary legislation and re-nationalize our freaking armed forces.

We have as many unregulated contractors in Iraq as we do actual soldiers, and the contractors are making many multiples of what our poor armed forces personnel get paid. The mark up on the contractors is significant, so the profit margin is huge, and much of the money is made for the Carlysle Group, busholini's 401K, double dipping, all of course paid for by the sucker tax payers.

Nuke Blackwater.

Now.

Seriously.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:36 PM
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6. They have an air force in Florida
At Melbourne International Airport, bought some fighter jets that the Brazilians use, Tuacanos I think they are called. They are building reconaissance airships in N.C. They are building armored personnel carriers in N.C. They have a ship docked at Little creek amphibious base in Norfolk, Va. They at least three(that I know) training facilities besides the big one in Moyock. One in San Diego. One in Illinois and a third in Idaho.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:27 PM
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22. and they're into manufacturing as well...
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/
Blackwater Airships LLC was established in January 2006 as the newest Blackwater venture -- with a mission to build a remotely piloted airship vehicle (RPAV). Although seemingly different from the traditional Blackwater mission, this new venture to provide a persistent surveillance capability is fully consistent with the Blackwater goal of offering solutions which help to protect our forces wherever they are deployed and support our homeland security.
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The prototype Polar 400 is completing propulsion ground tests and when fully assembled will undergo test flights and then move into production by mid-year 2007. Following successful demonstration flights, Blackwater Airships will begin selling or leasing airships to Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security and other government customers. The Polar 400 is designed to operate for 48 to 60 hours at altitudes from 5,000 to 15,000 feet. The unique design of the RPAV propulsion system will give it the capability to loiter over a desired location with excellent low-speed maneuverability, along with an ability to fly at up to 50 knots to move quickly to and from a target area



Grizzly APC

The leader in the high-threat security industry, Blackwater incorporates real-world lessons learned on the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan into all of our operations. Now, we’ve gone one step further.

Blackwater presents the GRIZZLY™ – the world’s only Armored Personnel Carrier intended to counter the most lethal threats in the modern urban combat environment.

The GRIZZLY™ incorporates the Blackwater High Threat Armor Protection System TM (patent pending). This state-of-the-art technology is an exceptional armor system unmatched in the urban APC market. The Blackwater High Threat Armor Protection System is engineered to defeat projectiles up to .50 caliber and to provide an IED-survivable envelope.

We are committed to manufacturing excellence. We are dedicated to your safety in the field.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x4884
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:06 PM
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24. The Grizzly is a piece of shit.
It's just a GMC C6500 frame and engine with a bunch of armor plates welded to it's side.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:43 PM
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25. well..they can just sell them
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:50 PM
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26. I know about them.
CACI, Dyncorp, Mantech, Titan, MPRI and many, many more.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:00 AM
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27. there are so many..
is Blackwater that bad, or do they just get more press? I remember some Spicer guy from Britain that got in some trouble a while back, but other than that story I never hear of these people.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:10 AM
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28. They are that bad.
They just massacred 17 civilians and wounded 27 in Nisour Square back in September '07. Fallujah was leveled because those four Blackwater employees fucked up royally.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/world/middleeast/08blackwater.html
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:45 AM
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39. minor nit
Those aren't fighter jets they got from Brazil. Those are fighter single-prop planes.

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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:32 PM
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4. Looks rather modest, all things considered.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:38 PM
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7. Yeah you're right.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 09:40 PM by arcadian
My OTHER house has 7 chimneys and a 5 car garage.

:eyes:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:56 PM
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9. The pictured house has 7 chimneys and a 5-car garage.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 09:59 PM by TahitiNut

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:07 PM
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10. Is that a helicopter landing
pad behind the house?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:15 PM
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13. I think the cul de sac roundabout in front would serve handily for landing helicopters.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 10:16 PM by TahitiNut
Seems perfect for it. :shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:09 PM
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11. Thats a much better picture
The other one only shows a fraction of the house.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:14 PM
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12. He got a "great deal" because of "road noise" from the nearby highway...
but then...if you have a Copter Pad in your font lawn...maybe noise isn't a factor .... Still, he's so close to that road...he got a good deal. Probably knocked a Mil off the price.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:16 PM
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14. The guy has "heart." There's a "wishing well" in the upper right hand corner
towards the back of the house... Or maybe it's a "hot tub with handles?" :shrug:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:22 PM
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18. It's a play set for his kids.
His kids who still have all of their limbs, who aren't starving and who haven't been horribly maimed in explosions.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:18 PM
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15. jeez his hovel backs up to a double yellow line road, what a peasant!
Is anyone really surprised by the size of his house? I'm not, i'm only surprised it's in some high end subdivision and not on like a 50 acre spread complete with underground bunker and a rubber hose room.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:21 PM
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16. This lovely little manse also includes an indoor shooting range, complete
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 10:22 PM by Raster
with live Iraqi targets and it's own Torture Chamber/Dungeon. The Rumpus Room comes equipped with two holding cells featuring tile floors and walls and heavy-duty floor drains to help wash the mess away.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:47 PM
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:02 AM
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35. Jesus could IT be more obvious?
Poor thing, must be lost.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:15 AM
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36. Obvious and repeatedly so. At least he's consistent, I suppose. nm
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:55 AM
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33. All Things Considered? WTF Is Wrong With You?
A butchering, evil, lying, sinister war profiteer lives in a swanky pad and this is what you have to say. Be gone foolish nitwit. Really I can't believe you are still among the living here. Bah.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:33 PM
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5. Is this in Michigan?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:40 PM
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8. Virginia
n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:21 PM
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17. He didn't need our tax dollars..
..but then none of them do..they consider it what is rightfully theirs...


Edgar Prince developed the lighted vanity mirror and made his fortune with Prince Automotive, an auto parts and machinery manufacturer that became, after his death, part of Johnson Controls. He established the Prince Foundation, which has spread millions of dollars to such groups as Focus on the Family, Promise Keepers, and Don Wildmon's American Family Association, and he co-founded the Family Research Council with Gary Bauer. Prince's children, Erik Prince and Betsy DeVos, have become major players in right-wing political circles.
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Erik Prince is a multi-millionaire right-wing fundamentalist Christian from a powerful Michigan Republican family. His wealth came from his father, Edgar Prince, who headed Prince Automotive, an auto parts and machinery manufacturer.

A major Republican campaign contributor, he interned in the White House of President George H.W. Bush and campaigned for Pat Buchanan in 1992, finding time to intern for conservative congressman Dana Rohrabacher as well. Prince founded the security and mercenary firm Blackwater Worldwide in 1997 with Gary Jackson, another former Navy SEAL.

Prince's sister Betsy DeVos is a powerful conservative in her own right. Married to the son of Richard DeVos (Republican bankroller and co-founder of Amway), she served as chair of Michigan Republican Party in the 1990s.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:23 PM
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19. And you forgot to mention VIRULENTLY HOMOPHOBIC.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:00 AM
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34. Why Is That NOT A Surprise?
Why would a MANLY MAN like Eric be homophobic? I have no idea. :sarcasm:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:26 PM
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20. Informative background info, there....Thanks... Mr. Rambo has done well for himself
and it makes me want to puke everytime I look in my car "vanity mirror" from now on.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:27 PM
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21. True, I'm sure it help though
Buy his house in Vail, Co; Cody WY; various other Virginia and North Carolina properties and who knows who many properties he owns worldwide. Oh, and he hates all this attention.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:13 PM
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42. Where did you get that information ?
wikipedia?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:55 PM
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45. I am so sorry..
I should have provided the link....
http://www.nndb.com/people/926/000117575/
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:35 AM
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30. Well if Iran gets a nuke
the perfect spot for a bullseye is right over that house. I wonder if Pakistan has picked any targets? If we keep chasing and bombing over that border long enough we could provoke some action. If anyone beside the cheneybush needs a dose of, 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you', these freaks deserve it.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:20 AM
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31. Typical, built a multi-million dollar home and then put a trampoline
next to it.

That sums it up folks. :eyes:

We know what we're dealing with here.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:43 AM
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32. what a pauper. you'd think he could afford a far bigger house. n/t
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:02 AM
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37. You simply can't build anything bigger than that so close to D.C.
No space.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:35 AM
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38. no excuse. build on two lots if you have to. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:53 AM
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41. So that's what blood money can buy. Interesting.
I wonder how he sleeps at night.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:33 PM
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46. With A Gun Under The Pillow n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 06:44 PM
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47. Just like James Bond?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:00 PM
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48. In His Mind He IS James Bond n/t
Only with a smaller peni err, I mean gun.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:17 PM
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43. delete
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 12:17 PM by Crisco
wrong place
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