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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:24 AM
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The Evidence Is Clear & Convincing-Bush Admin WANTED To Torture & Get Away With It (Scott Horton)
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 10:32 AM by kpete
Torture from the Top Down
By Scott Horton

In a series of hearings, Congressional leaders are trying to get to the bottom of a simple question: who initiated torture techniques in the “war on terror”? What was the process by which it was done? On whose authority was it done? The use of torture techniques became a matter of public knowledge four years ago. In response to the initial disclosures, the Bush Administration first decided to spin the fable of a handful of “rotten apples” inside of a company of military police from Appalachia and scapegoated a handful of examples in carefully managed and staged show trials. When further disclosures out of Bagram and Guantánamo made this untenable, they spun a new myth, this time suggesting that the administration had responded to a plea from below for wider latitude.

In fact at this point the evidence is clear and convincing, and it points to a top-down process. Figures near the top of the administration decided that they wanted brutal techniques and they hammered them through, usually over strong opposition from the ranks of professionals.

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But most curiously, he’s forgotten all about the role played by the Justice Department and its Office of Legal Counsel. He’s forgotten about the torture memo itself. Why? The August 2002 torture memo is a smoking gun that shows torture being introduced top-down, as a project of the Cheney–Addington team of which Jim Haynes was a proud member. It refutes the whole administration narrative about torture practices coming on the strength of an appeal from below. And it puts the lie to John Yoo’s claims never to have influenced the abuses that occurred in the field in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in Guantánamo. In fact the Yoo–Bybee memorandum unleashed the abuses, and was used by Jim Haynes just for that purpose. Once more, Jim Haynes is protecting his friends and protecting himself. Once more, Haynes gives not the candor and openness he owes to a Congressional oversight body, but the code of silence that more typically binds the participants in a criminal scheme.

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Yes, the conversation starts with wide recognition that the techniques which were to be introduced were criminal under federal law. And it progresses to concern about avoiding criminal liability. Throughout the documents, military officers recite the litany of reasons why these techniques should not be used. They seem to expect that the matter will work its way up to senior levels and be shot down. There is a sort of horror in the creeping recognition of the moral and ethical vacuum that has taken hold at the highest echelons of government.

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/06/hbc-90003099
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:26 AM
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1. If they DIDN'T want torture, they would have done something to stop it.
They've done nothing.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:27 AM
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2. 9/26/2001 - "Helms Introduces Amendment to Protect Servicemen From International Criminal Court"
http://www.jochen-birk.de/helms.htm

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Ranking Republican Jesse Helms (R-NC) delivered the following statement on the Senate floor this afternoon concerning his amendment to the Defense Authorization Act, which is endorsed by the Bush Administration:

Mr. President, after dastardly terrorists killed thousands of American citizens in New York, Washington and that plane crash in Pennsylvania, President Bush instructed our armed services to "be ready."

And, this nation is at war with terrorism, and thousands in our armed forces are already risking their lives around the globe, prepared to fight that war. These are courageous men and women who are not afraid to face up to evil terrorists, and they are ready to risk their lives to preserve and protect the miracle of America.

And that is why, Mr. President, I am among those of their fellow countrymen who insist that these men and women who are willing risk their lives to protect their country and fellow Americans should not have to face the persecution of the International Criminal Court --- which ought to be called the International Kangaroo Court. This court will be empowered when 22 more nations ratify the Rome Treaty.

Mr. President, instead of helping the United States go after real war criminals and terrorists, the International Criminal Court has the unbridled power to intimidate our military people and other citizens with bogus, politicized prosecutions. Similar creations of the United Nations have shown that this is inevitable.

Earlier this year, the U.N. Human Rights Commission kicked off the United States --- the world's foremost advocate of human rights --- to the cheers of dictators around the globe.

The United Nation's conference on racism in Durban, South Africa, this past month, became an agent of hate rather than against hate. With this track record, it is not difficult to anticipate that the U.N.'s International Criminal Court will be in a position not merely to prosecute, but to persecute our soldiers and sailors for alleged war crimes as they risk their lives fighting the scourge of terrorism.

Therefore, Mr. President, now is the time for the Senate to move to protect those who are protecting us.

I have an amendment at the desk to serve as a sort of insurance policy for our troops. My amendment is supported by the Bush Administration and is based on the "American Service Members Protection Act," which I introduced this past May. It is cosponsored by Senators Miller, Shelby, Murkowski, Bond, and Allen. Mr. President, many Americans may not realize that the Rome Treaty can apply to Americans even without the U.S. ratifying the treaty. This bewildering threat to America's men and women in our armed forces must be stopped.

And that is precisely what my amendment proposes to do --- it protects Americans in several ways:

(1) It will prohibit cooperation with this kangaroo court, including use of taxpayer funding or sharing of classified information.

(2) It will restrict a U.S. role in peacekeeping missions unless the U.N. specifically exempts U.S. troops from prosecution by this international court. (3) It blocks U.S. aid to allies unless they too sign accords to shield U.S. troops on their soil from being turned over to the ICC.

And (4) It authorizes any necessary action to free U.S. soldiers improperly handed over to that Court.

My amendment to the Defense Authorization bill incorporates changes negotiated with the Executive Branch giving the President the flexibility and authority to delegate tasks in the bill to Cabinet Secretaries and their deputies in this time of national emergency.

The Bush Administration supports this slightly revised version of the "American Service Members Protection Act." I ask unanimous consent that a letter from the Administration in support of this amendment be included in the record.

Mr. President, nothing is more important than the safety of our citizens, soldiers and public servants. The terrorist attacks of September 11 have made that fact all the more obvious.

Today, we can, we must, act to protect our military personnel from abuse by the International Criminal Court.

Quelle: www.senate.gov/~foreign/minority/press_list.cfm
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:29 AM
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3. 8/3/2002 - U.S.: 'Hague Invasion Act' Becomes Law
http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/08/aspa080302.htm

U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the "Hague invasion clause," has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.

In addition, the law provides for the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance from countries ratifying the ICC treaty, and restricts U.S. participation in United Nations peacekeeping unless the United States obtains immunity from prosecution. At the same time, these provisions can be waived by the president on "national interest" grounds
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:34 AM
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5. 9/23/2003 - US State Dept. Press Release on Article 98
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 10:34 AM by Crisco
Yesterday, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell signed an Article 98 Agreement with Kazakhstan. This marks the third Article 98 signing in the last five days, with Colombia and the Solomon Islands also entering into such agreements. These signatures bring the total number of countries having entered into Article 98 Agreements with the United States to 63. Several more nations are expected to sign agreements over the coming weeks.

Colombia is the 29th State Party to the International Criminal Court (ICC) to conclude an Article 98 Agreement with the United States. The Government of Colombia’s action demonstrates the recognition among States Parties to the Court that Article 98 Agreements are an important mechanism provided for in the ICC Treaty.

United States military forces, civilian personnel and private citizens are currently active in peacekeeping and humanitarian missions in more than 100 countries. Article 98 Agreements, which are provided for in the Rome Statute that created the International Criminal Court, allow the United States to remain engaged internationally with our friends and allies by providing American citizens with essential protection from the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, particularly against politically motivated investigations and prosecutions.



more ...

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/art98/c10436.htm
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:37 AM
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6. 7/2/2003 - US blocks aid over ICC row
The United States has suspended over $47m in military aid to 35 countries that have not signed deals to grant American soldiers immunity from prosecution for war crimes.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the protection of US citizens from the threat of being hauled before the new International Criminal Court (ICC) was a significant matter in relations with other countries.

The US does not recognise the ICC, saying its forces could be subjected to politically-motivated prosecution.

..
The new court, based in The Hague in the Netherlands, can try individuals for war crimes committed after 1 July anywhere in the world.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3035296.stm
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:32 AM
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4. Training our military for future crimes against humanity, because
war is not heinous enough.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:56 AM
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7. Shame on Nancy Pelosi for leaving us in the hands of these criminals.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 03:07 PM
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10. I will NOT let this sink
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:09 PM
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8. while the corp cable 'news' networks entertain and divert
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 04:21 PM
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11. Can't divert me
T O R T U R E





Gen. Taguba: Bush Administration Committed War Crimes

The Army general who first investigated the abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of committing war crimes. Retired Major General Antonio Taguba made the comment in a new report about US torture practices. Taguba wrote, “The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture.” Taguba went on to say, “The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.” <snip>

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/19/headlines#1





Thursday, June 19, 2008
The Great Torture Scandal

McClatchy and other reporters are abruptly pulling the curtain away from the Bush team's illegal practices in arresting people arbitrarily, declining to offer proof that they were guilty of anything, detaining them indefinitely without trial or charges, and deliberately torturing them to the extent of leaving long-term scars and disabilities. The torture practices originated not with lower-level officers but with Donald Rumsfeld and others in Bush's inner circle, who then later blamed lower-level officials for developing the ideas that Rumsfeld ordered them to develop. Nothing they have done has survived a court challenge where one has been permitted.<snip>

http://www.juancole.com/2008/06/great-torture-scandal.html





A Senate investigation has concluded that top Pentagon officials began assembling lists of harsh interrogation techniques in the summer of 2002 for use on detainees at Guantanamo Bay and that those officials later cited memos from field commanders to suggest that the proposals originated far down the chain of command, according to congressional sources briefed on the findings.<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602779.html
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 03:06 PM
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9. kick
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 05:09 PM
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12. Not gonna disappear on my watch
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 05:59 PM by libnnc
T O R T U R E


***W A R C R I M E S***


Gen. Taguba: Bush Administration Committed War Crimes

The Army general who first investigated the abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of committing war crimes. Retired Major General Antonio Taguba made the comment in a new report about US torture practices. Taguba wrote, “The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture.” Taguba went on to say, “The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.” <snip>

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/19/headlines#1





Thursday, June 19, 2008
The Great Torture Scandal

McClatchy and other reporters are abruptly pulling the curtain away from the Bush team's illegal practices in arresting people arbitrarily, declining to offer proof that they were guilty of anything, detaining them indefinitely without trial or charges, and deliberately torturing them to the extent of leaving long-term scars and disabilities. The torture practices originated not with lower-level officers but with Donald Rumsfeld and others in Bush's inner circle, who then later blamed lower-level officials for developing the ideas that Rumsfeld ordered them to develop. Nothing they have done has survived a court challenge where one has been permitted.<snip>

http://www.juancole.com/2008/06/great-torture-scandal.html





A Senate investigation has concluded that top Pentagon officials began assembling lists of harsh interrogation techniques in the summer of 2002 for use on detainees at Guantanamo Bay and that those officials later cited memos from field commanders to suggest that the proposals originated far down the chain of command, according to congressional sources briefed on the findings.<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602779.html
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