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Sat Jun-21-08 04:45 AM
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Pelosi (angrily) "We have the fight against, war againt terrorism. WHEREVER it may exist." |
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"That fight must go on. Good intelligence is necessary for us to KNOW the plans of The Terrorist, and to DEFEAT those plans {as we have been doing since the warrantless dragnet was set in operation in the mid-1990s... what'd you think was meant by the mid-90s debate between human intelligence and electronic surveilance? Humint lost to high tech, and with it, our only mole inside Al Qaeda} So we CAN'T go without a bill. That's just simply NOT an option. But to have a bill, we must have a bill that does not violate the Constitution of the United States. And this bill {proudly} does not."
She also issued some kind of press release saying that she was no lawyer, no expert,and apparently no experts around her who believe in the rule of law, and therefore a case could be made either way regarding the bill's constitutionality, and from one non-expert to another (from her to the public), she preferred to view the glass as half-full and the bill as legal.
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:56 AM
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bush and ATT started spying in Feb. 2001
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:44 AM
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31. Double fuck you, Nancy |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:21 AM
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2. She's been compromised. First, I crossed Reid off my list. Now, Pelosi has been crossed off as well. |
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I no longer trust both of them.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:25 AM
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3. WTF is wrong with her? |
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She sounds like Bush/Cheney combinded. She has lost her freakin' mind.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:32 AM
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15. They have been crosseoff for some time, both are compromised and have no |
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interest in the people's work, only themselves. I hope there is new democratic leadership after the next election. They are both in Bush's pocket for some reason. A preside with a 29% approval rating and they can't defeat him on anything and the worst is they don't even try.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:28 AM
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when the general election comes Skinner must allow real competition to be heard regarding her seat challenges. democracy, the constitution, and the rule of law take greater precedence to the meaning of this website than the party. the website and its mission statement seeks deeper meaning of the word than mere party partisanship. besides, SF is a safely liberal seat; a republican would fare better as a snowball in hell.
Pelosi must go, for the safety of the nation in the future.
(too bad i cannot vote her out myself. thankfully i have my beloved Barbara Lee. i love talking to people about the virtues of my congresswoman Lee.)
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:49 AM
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6. Saw her on C-Span, I'm jealous. |
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Sun Jun-22-08 05:37 AM
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33. everyone should have a Barbara Lee! :) |
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who do you have? isn't P-town (Philadelphia) a liberal bastion, too? i really liked it when i visited. all the grit and violence of Oakland with all the potential beauty and architecture.
but i was all sad coming up from Wilmington into Philly. there were all these refineries and industrial plants, it seemed. and a lot of poverty. where's Delco? was i nearby?
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Sun Jun-22-08 05:57 AM
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34. We have Bob Brady and although I call his office and e-mail him all I ever |
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get back are form notes. I live in Delaware County and if you were driving up I95 you passed pretty close to my neighborhood (near the airport). My area is ok, the schools suck and that is a real let down for the future.
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Sun Jun-22-08 06:36 AM
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35. oh, that's right next to Philly! |
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so you're not like in the Appalachian mountains or something. :7 i see, Delco is just a short version for Delaware County.
fascinating how language changes stuff. we euphemistically call San Francisco "The City" and Oakland "The Town" and life around elsewhere is defined by directions adjacent to "The Bay." otherwise we often say the whole thing, like "Alameda County", or "Northern California." often drives our friends from "Southern California" (SoCal) angry, like we are deliberately being obscure or wasting their time. i guess in a tangential way we do enjoy it, but we don't mean it maliciously. :evilgrin:
yeah, i hate form letters, got those most often from DIane Feinstein. boo! stuck with her for another 6 years... but i bet our Richmond and Oakland schools beat your schools in suckitude! utter abject poverty, it is. it's the surrounding cities that have better schools. Prop 13 and urban white flight did us a number way back when, still recovering.
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Sun Jun-22-08 07:32 AM
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36. White flight is in full swing around here. All my old neighbors ran like there was a fire. |
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My new neighbors are good people who are trying to do what good people always do. Like i said my only real concern is for the schools, and the kids that attend them.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:47 AM
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5. Will she automatically be Speaker in Jan? |
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Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 05:48 AM by Maureen1322
What kind of support does she have in her own district?
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:57 AM
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7. Is there a list of people who voted to let BushCo slide on this? |
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WE need to remember WHO SOLD US OUT!
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:14 AM
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10. Yes, there's a 'rollcall' for this 'whore's list' on... |
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'OpenCongress.com' for this bill.(HR6304) This is the list of our corporate supporters, and why we'll never get any accounting of the criminals in power. Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel are all 'in their corner'.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:59 AM
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8. Yes, indeed, fuck you, Nancy |
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Sure is looking like she has been bought. She knew about the plans to torture. Supported this unconstitutional bill. Wonder whose other backs she has been scratching?
Only thing I know to do is to change all our phone service to Credo when our contracts run out. And to fight against that stupid "early termination fee" penalty these companies have in place for wanting to change providers when your provider sucks or does something like spy on your ass.
And to keep fighting for industry diversity.
And to work to elect people other than these types of "Democrats."
And get ready to work our butts off to change all these fascists laws, signing statements, and all the other crap put into place over the last eight years, much of it with the complicity of such "Democrats."
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:59 AM
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Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 05:59 AM by texastoast
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:16 AM
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11. What's the matter, Nancy? |
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Have you been getting a lot of angry phone calls lately?
GOOD.
War criminal.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:20 AM
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12. I cut her a lot of slack. No more. |
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Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 06:52 AM by PassingFair
I used to like that both the progressive AND conservative factions of us dems had beefs with Ms. Pelosi.
I thought it indicated a balance that was not discernible to people like me who are not in the beltway.
Now I think she is just WRONG from any perspective.
We need Jan Schawkowsky leading our House.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:39 AM
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We need Jan Schawkowsky leading our Senate.???
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:52 AM
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It's a bit early for me on a Saturday....
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:26 AM
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:57 AM
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19. I bet I can guess what one of her next crazy/scary quotes will be. |
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"Iran is a threat & we must take them out!"
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:04 AM
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21. I never say this....it is so beneath an adult |
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:03 AM
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20. It seems to me that terrorism, |
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like charity, begins at home.
Start to clean up the terrorists in the White House, and the world will be behind you.
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:29 AM
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22. Let Canada deal with them! |
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As long as they're not in the US we have lots of other things to deal with, stuff that is our own business.
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:48 AM
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23. fuck you nancy and fuck you obama for supporting the fisa bill--fucking scumbazg crooks |
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:55 AM
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24. Looks like the heat of numerous angry folks is getting to her. |
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Good. She's been a terrible Speaker of the House and so-so congresswoman who should be given the boot ASAP. At least her legacy will be a tarnished one thanks to this crap.
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:56 AM
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What a freakin' disaster...Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid. All of the Blue Dogs have to go. The GOP can have them!
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:58 AM
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:06 AM
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27. nancy fails to recognize who the real terrorists are |
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:23 AM
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28. pelosi supports the war on tots.... |
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tots are the children between diapers and short pants fyi. Now it sounds ridiculous that kindergarteners could wage bloody war against civilization, but fact are fukkin facts. They are. pelosi knows...the bible puts words into Jesus' mouth... it's complicated, but true.... ask Nancy...better yet, ask bush's tall tail news! just support the gaddam war until the Youngster leaves, in less then a year. Hey, we won aready! can't you see! (it's tots, harebrains)
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:26 AM
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29. let me add a "fuck you, Nancy!" |
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:47 AM
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32. And the first battle is to fight those that enable fear and allow their souls to be |
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compromised.
Pelosi-- you are part of the problem here.
You and your cronies can go pound sand.
You have absolutely no right to lecture anyone about the war on terror. No right.
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