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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:12 PM Original message |
Those furious with Obama over FISA -Bill Clinton signed EO 12949 into |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did the bill Clinton signed put the president, and anyone he chooses, above the law? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Actually- I'm more upset with Clinton- he could, by the stroke of his pen |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I am taking a wait-and-see attitude. I will wait and see what Obama does. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I wish I could K&R this post!! ~ Well said!! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. If you are one of those who are not abandoning Obama- |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. I thought that blaming Bill Clinton for everything wrong in the |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Who is blaming him for "everything wrong"? Is hyperbole your first language? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. "change you can believe in" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. fuck that- Is this the best answer you have??? Or perhaps |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. bill clinton was the most successful republican president of the past 50 years. |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Yea that 8 years of peace and prosperity was |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. bill clinton made gwb possible, by letting poppy and his crew off the hook for iran-contra... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. it's easy to blame the ills of the world on others- |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Did Clinton EVER wiretap without a warrant? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. did you read the article? Do you know what the ACLU |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I read it - and I stand by my original post |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. I never abandoned support or faith in Clinton |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. excellent and most reasonable position |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I appreciate that you say |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. I did and it was another step toward my rejecting him as the self-serving |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. well then, you |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I am. I always have been, and until I get out of this country, I always will be. |
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Terry_M (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. We don't "owe" any president any faith or support. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. I never was a fan of Bill Clinton, |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. "...did you abandon your support and faith in him then as well?"... huh? I never had any.. trying.. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. look Breeze- it's clear |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. You're the one using words in the OP, like 'furious' and 'frustrated' and asking |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yup, don't look at Obama, look at Clinton |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. a healthy |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Oh I'm sorry, Its just that every time Anyone is criticized |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. As I have said before |
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PurpleStateVoter (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. Saying this bill allows illegal wiretaps is silly... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Now that's some impressively contorted apologia, congratulations, |
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PurpleStateVoter (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. believe what you want... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. YES YES YES! I was furious with Clinton over Echelon and illegal expansion |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. So, because Clinton supported it that somehow makes it a non-issue? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. ~ |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. "Clinton did it too" call a fucking whambulance |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. no- it isn't. It is asking you to check your PERSPECTIVE- |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I stand by what I said |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. no, I really did need to |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. So the defense you're suggesting will be "He did it too?" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. no, I'm not saying that at all. Or |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. If he does not vote Nay on the FISA bill? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
43. Great. I think less of Bill Clinton now too. What is this some sort of seesaw? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. who would you |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. At some point, obama's record HAS to be his own |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
48. What year was that? It was probably after I'd already abandoned any "faith" I had in WJC |
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