Michelle Obama and drug addiction??????

[RazBerryBeret]

Imagine that for a minute...


from HuffPo:

Cindy's addiction has been virtually ignored this election season.

As a thought experiment, try to imagine what the reaction would be if Michelle Obama had a history with drug addiction? If Michelle Obama had stolen drugs meant for third world countries to support her own addiction?


So when Cindy McCain says, "All I know is that I've always been proud of my country," take it with a grain of salt. She spent at least three years stoned out of her mind. It's impossible to know what she thought during that time. Was she really proud, or was she just hallucinating?

(I love that last line....)

I do admire Obama's statements that families are NOT fair game, but Damn, you know this would be all over the media if the situation were reversed....

[NYC_SKP]

1. You're right. Great point. nt

[VeraAgnes]

20. OP is very wrong.

We can not go after Cindy McCain for her active disease from 10 years ago. She is in recovery from drug addiction and has been so for a predicable length of time; years!

No links were provided either by the OP which suggest that they are trying to manipulate the information.

[RazBerryBeret]

27. Honey, I'm not trying to manipulate anything.

and if you read what I typed it clearly says from HuffPo (short for Huffington Post) you can find the article there.

are you questioning Cindy's addiction?
it has been well documented:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs/print.html
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/7/2303/06115
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/06/18/2007-06-18_campaign_trail_will_be_nothin_for_cindy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Hensley_McCain

and I never advocated anyone "going after" her for her past addiction. I clearly stated that IF this had been reversed the Right would not be apt to look the other way, take the high ground. Pointing out again that the "liberal" media really isn't biased our way.

That's all.

[malaise]

32. All DUers need to do re the spouses is post pix

of them side by side. One is an attractive very fit, well dressed and woman who is clearly loved by her gorgeous virile husband. The other is a rich, unhappy, emaciated woman who probably has her own bedroom. If I were Cindy with that old impotent moron, I'd need drugs as well.

[RazBerryBeret]

33. hehehe...I was trying HARD not to be mean about it...

but you said it well.

[malaise]

35. Liberals and lefties are too nice

Just look at the two women and you'll see what I'm saying.

[texastoast]

36. How do you really know she is not still using or won't again?

If she is not, then good for her.

I've lived with, around, and among many chemical dopers, many of whom go back to using as soon as the key stressors return. We'll see.

Meanwhile, it is not my job to defend her.

[Stephanie]

2. your thread title is unfortunate

and misleading

[Zuiderelle]

4. It explains the high number of reads, and low number of posts.

The subliminal effect for those who just skim headlines does make this unfortunate, and definitely misleading.

[BlooInBloo]

37. Heh indeedy.

[Deliphus]

3. "All I know is that I've always been proud of my country,"

Michelle ought to say: "All I know is that I've never been a drug addict. Or a drug thief."

[dkf]

5. rowwr.

Not good if we don't want the perception of a cat fight.

[kestrel91316]

10. Oh, well then. We can say it FOR her.. Every frickin' chance we get.

[dkf]

19. Well we definitely will think it!

And tell our friends, family and co-workers.

:)

[renate]

7. when Cindy said that, I wanted to smack her

That butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth look on her face, and her little-girl voice. :puke:

Like the kids we all grew up knowing at least one of, the ones whom the parents all loved, when behind the grownups' backs they'd be sticking their tongues out and swearing like sailors.

[RazBerryBeret]

9. that's exactly how I feel listening to her...

she's like the little girl who tells everyone that there is no easter bunny and that Santa Claus is really your parents...

[NYC_SKP]

38. Laura Bush showed some class, Cindy just ran the talking points.

Most of you heard Laura Bush on Good Morning America, or heard what she said.

"I think she probably meant I'm 'more proud,' you know, is what she really meant. You have to be very careful in what you say."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=5027570

Now would it have been so hard for Cindy to have said something like that?

The OP is dead right.

If Michelle Obama had any drug use, make that drug use and theft, she'd be smeared.

We'd see her portrayed as the worst kind of junkie and thief from some depressed black ghetto.

I think the difference we see is partly that Cindy is mega-wealthy and white, and automatically gets a pass, AND that the right wing smears are so over the top.

[dkf]

21. Yeah, me too. Now that is a smug Marie Antoinette type if ever there was one.

[VeraAgnes]

22. We really don't know that either.

Think about it!

[cali]

41. figures. looks like you're one of those hillary supporters

going for McCain. How fucking dare you suggest that we don't really know whether Michelle Obama has a history of drug addiction? Maybe you belong on one of the wacky hillary for McCain sites. Here we don't smear the dem nominee or his family. Cut it out.

[Mz Pip]

6. I pointed this out

to a cousin of mine who sent me some anti-Michelle crap. If Michelle had done what Cindy did Rush, Hannity and every other RW hack would be talking about it 24/7. Thesubtext would be that Michelle is an anti-american Black militant druggie and not fit to be First Lady.

Considering what Cindy has done, it's sort of suprising that the RW shills really want to be talking about Michelle's character. Cindy McCain is a real piece of work but she's proud of her country so I guess that's all that matters. :sarcasm:

[RazBerryBeret]

8. how did you cousin respond

to that? I think it's an interesting and valid point. think about how much the RightWingers were salivating about the possibility of a video w/Michelle saying "whitey"....if there was anything comparable in Michelle's background you know it would be everywhere!!

[Mz Pip]

15. Like the intellectually

lazy wing nut that she is. Went on about how she had listened to what Michelle said twice and didn't believe any of the explanations. She hates Obama, doesn't trust him and had to add that it's not because he's Black. Uh-huh sure. :eyes: Then she said I was entitled to my opinion and she was entitled to hers. So there.


(She's my cousin's wife, so I can deny any DNA link to her idiocy)


The next piece of crap she sends me I'm sending her the YouTube link to Jon Stewart making fun of all the wingnut hysteria about Obama. I'm done with a reasoned approach. I've moved on to ridicule and mockery.

[Cleita]

11. To be kind, if I were married to McCain I would want to be

stoned out of my mind too. However, you are right. Imagine the ride the tabloids would have with that. Also, I noticed when I was in the supermarket yesterday that the Obamas are on the cover of all the celebrity trash magazines like People and Us. The McCains seem to be for the most part absent. I wonder why?

[RazBerryBeret]

12. yep, I'd need to be medicated to stay w/McCain.

I think the Obamas are on so many covers because they are a beautiful couple who genuinely seem to like each other.

[Sam Ervin jret]

24. They don't make drugs strong enough to make that guy palatable.

I think the McShames are drugging the media whores. It's the only explanation I can find for the constant free ride they get.

[Gabi Hayes]

13. as fun and swell as the Cindy addict thief story is, her daddy's connections

are the real story, because without Hensley's backing, McCain's carpetbagging career would have gone NOWHERE.

for those that don't know the story, here's an interesting overview, with lots of citations, if you're skeptical:



McCain’s “Friends”….
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By- Suzie-Q @ 8:00 AM MST

But Greenbaum had problems. The following information was obtained by IRE from a confidential Phoenix Police Dept. report: “As Greenbaum grew bigger and stronger in Las Vegas, he began cheating his partners and was ordered to sell out or he would be carried out in a box. In early December, 1958, a meeting was held at the Grace Ranch of Peter Licavoli Sr. (Tucson). At this meeting were Joe Profaci, Joe Magliocco, Joseph Bonanno Sr., and Tony Accardo (all mob bosses)”…

.......................

I do not understand all of the comparatively tame BS, pretending to be “journalism”, such as whether McCain had an affair with a lobbyist or if he was born on US soil, or not…..that the media and the public is concerning itself with, when “the story” is the fact that McCain traded the navy for the money and Arizona connections of a mobbed up “king maker”, and the result is that McCain is the 7th wealthiest member of congress, and his wife chairs the board of what began as a “continuing criminal enterprise”.

Since the investigative reporting that gives us this information about where McCain’s initial post Navy employment, vast personal wealth ($50 to $100 million), and early congressional campaign financing all came from a 1976 investigative reporting effort by 36 “IREs” (Investigative Reporters and Editors) from news organizations from all over the US, in reaction to the assassination of a Phoenix investigative reporter, why isn’t the following info, the “real deal”, that the media uses to “deep 6″ McCain?

.........

much more:

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/04/20/mccains-mob-connections/

lots more here, too:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hensley+mafia

[sellitman]

14. Cindy is the main reason McSame is on record

saying families are out of bounds.

If Cindy was open game he would be toast.

[VeraAgnes]

16. Was this not 10 years ago? old information I believe.

I never ridicule anyone who is in honest recovery. I do not want to see Obama attack Cindy McCain for being in recovery from a drug addiction. There is a big difference.

[dkf]

23. She had a stroke too. I guess when you have a whole lot of $

you can recover pretty damned well.

[RazBerryBeret]

28. and old means we shouldn 't talk about it anymore?

what?

I think the Wright sermon that we saw over and over and over was from seven years ago....

[VeraAgnes]

30. Correct..........

To do so would reflect our being desperate. She appears to be in a very healthy recovery posture. Do we go after *bush without sobriety? No, it didn't work and he drinks!

I see no reason to go after someone with years of sobriety....I find it weak to try and do that.

[RazBerryBeret]

34. how about someone who

stole drugs (from a charity) and was never charged for it????

I would have been arrested for that. Probably done some time.

[Gabi Hayes]

29. you clearly haven't read the story. it's not about her addiction and PHONY

recovery story, it's about the lying, both the the investigators and the media

take the time to read this, and you might feel a bit differently:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/

it's not old news when you're living a lie, especially when you base your entire campaign on the laughable premise of being a 'straight talker'

[SOS]

31. It's really not about addiction or recovery

It's the outrageous lies and attempted destruction of an honest whistle blower.
If the crypto-fascists (see: Ready to Attack Obama, http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/us/politics/21ads.html) want to attack Michelle, then creepy Cindy is open to 527 attacks too.

"The story I was pursuing was not so much about Cindy McCain's unfortunate addiction. It was much more about her efforts to keep that story from coming to light, and the possible manipulation of the criminal justice system by her husband and his cohorts. The irony is that Cindy's secret would have stayed secret if John McCain's heavy-hitting lawyer, John Dowd hadn't pulled out all the stops to protect the McCain family.
Dowd tried to get back at the man on Cindy McCain's staff, Tom Gosinski, who had blown the whistle on her drug pilfering to the DEA. But in the course of trying to get local law enforcement officials to investigate Gosinski, Dowd set in motion a process that would eventually bring the whole sordid story to light. When that maneuver backfired, the McCain media machine went into overdrive to spin the story."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs/print.html

[Maureen1322]

17. I think if they keep on Michele Obama, Cindy McCain should get pounded.

Hit her hard and hit her often.

[Jed Dilligan]

18. That sounds dirty

:blush:

[polichick]

25. Republicans operate with a double standard because we allow it...

Somebody ~ NOT the Obamas ~ should start talking about this stuff. Maybe even a 527.

[ChazII]

26. In Arizona

it was 'all over the media' when the story broke.

[woo me with science]

39. Cindy has a problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljEfBRX0vKA

[CreekDog]

40. it's pretty easy to be proud of your country when you're an heir to multimillions

:eyes:

[Enthusiast]

42. You are so right!

Maybe McCain should be asked if the media would treat Michelle differently.