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Sat Jun-21-08 04:28 PM
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I think we owe Scot McClellan a huge favor |
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Seriously, it took some rocks for him to write his book during this administration, knowing (as we all do) how dangerous they have been in the past in "getting rid" of their enemies. So, I ask everyone: what can we do for Scott that would show support for him? Something that tells him that there are enough of us out here grateful for his bringing a lot of this shit into the open, into the naked light of day, where we don't need to worry about the "monsters" in the closet?
If someone can come up with a nice gesture, it would be something worth supporting for us all--something which shows that when someone does the right thing, we're behind them, regardless of which "side" they're on.
If people don't mind, keep this kicked and rec'd so we can come up with a few ideas.
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:35 PM
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1. I'm undecided about Scott |
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I appreciate the forthcoming now, but he also caused a lot of trouble for all of us. It's called a "sin of omission". He did everything to enable them to do what they did. Now he wants accolades? Better late than never, but he has a lot to make up for.
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:39 PM
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3. He is still adamently defending Busholini. |
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His mantra is that Busholini meant well but was swayed by Cheney & Rove to go to the dark side. He has revealed very little that we didn't already know.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:14 PM
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told very little that we didn't already know. The value in his telling it publicly may be as simple as that he confirmed what the progressive left has been saying for years. Many, including some moderate-to-conservative democrats, used to discount the voice of the progressive left, and now that stance is undermined. If we were correct on the Plame scandal (and I dare say that more was revealed on DU earlier than any other progressive internet site), then the other things we say must be given greater consideration. The obvious example is, of course, impeachment.
Also, though Scott says "nice" things about Bush, it seems obvious that he is saying those things as a tactic that allows him to expose his contempt for Bush ..... for example, by noting Bush's saying he didn't remember if he "tried" cocaine or not. More, he confirms that Bush, while not being involved in the Cheney-Libby operation to expose Plame's identification, that he played a role in the cover-up. While his actions may not have constituted a crime (or at least one that could be proven in court), they absolutely rise to the level of an abuse of the power of his office. That is part of the original intent of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that should result in impeachment.
I think that while he is an unattractive individual, that Scott McClellan shows more bravery and decency than anyone in the executive branch, and more than most in the legislative branch.
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:37 PM
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2. Scotty is still pussing-out. Maybe he needs to be offered immunity. n/t |
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:41 PM
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4. By writing his book and opening his mouth, McClellan did nothing to make his life easier for him. |
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Those on the right despise him for being a traitor and those on the left have trouble with him because he didn't come clean soon enough to suit them. So on the right he has burned his bridges and poisoned the water. I am sure they will do all they can to make his life unhappy and he probably has more than a little reason to be paranoid about his own well-being.
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Sat Jun-21-08 04:43 PM
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5. I he had any scruples he would have told them to shove it when he was asked to lie about Libby. |
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He has no scruples just an empty checkbook.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:20 PM
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7. Whistleblowers are often ex-collaborators. |
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It's in our interest to welcome them. Get them to talk more rather than chicken out because liberals are seen as self-righteously vindictive.
Strategy, folks.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:29 PM
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8. Way I see it, he owes us. |
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An explanation and a reason why he thinks Dimson is so wonderful.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:32 PM
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9. I think he owes us an apology |
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for pimping shrub's lies for so long when he knew he was just helping throw shit in our faces. I remain unconvinced that he should be forgiven for that and I also remain cynical enough to think he's coming clean now just to cash in.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:37 PM
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10. I think he already has apologised |
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Regardless of how much money he is or is not getting (and he was well off anyway) writing this book has made his life a lot more difficult.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:42 PM
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11. No one forced him to keep that position |
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And he stood there and lied. All of a sudden he grows a conscience?
I don't buy it at all . He knew what was going on and at the time he should have walked away.
He is every bit as much of a criminal as the others are.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:42 PM
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12. No one forced him to keep that position |
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And he stood there and lied. All of a sudden he grows a conscience?
I don't buy it at all . He knew what was going on and at the time he should have walked away.
He is every bit as much of a criminal as the others are.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:49 PM
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go fuck yourself, mcclellen.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:50 PM
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14. "We" owe McClellan nothing. |
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For his own personal gain he wrote a book, and has said nothing new. His appearance yesterday was no more than a stop on his book tour. If you feel the need to do something for him I suggest you buy a copy.
How much danger do you really believe he is in? How has he done the "right thing"? What new revelations do you see in this work? There is no there there.
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