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AddisonMiles Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 08:04 AM
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Obama versus the netroots (how Obama's FISA statement was drafted)
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 08:05 AM by AddisonMiles
An interesting read...

http://www.chatterstream.com

Excerpt:

"It's also worth noting the internal process for these types of candidate statements and positions. Though one could argue that it should have been, it's doubtful that this was some great reckoning for Obama involving hours of deep reflection on our fundamental rights. If Obama saw the FISA statement at all, it was probably for a quick sign-off. The statement was likely drafted in his senate office in coordination with the Democratic leadership and reviewed by his campaign policy team. Perhaps there was a warning or two moved up the chain of command from his web team, who monitor online chatter and were aware of the growing dismay in the blogosphere, as well as some angry calls into his senate office and campaign headquarters.

Either way, the issue is not whether the Obama campaign intentionally antagonized the progressive community - it's that he is now seen by progressive activists as having caved to Bush on a core issue, and his campaign shouldn't ignore the ramifications.

There are still many unresolved questions about the relative influence, if any, of the progressive blogosphere on the Obama campaign. It may be that alienating progressives helps with moderates and independents, and perhaps progressive bloggers must get on the train or watch it go by, but those who underestimate the power of the netroots often pay the price."
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:01 AM
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1. The FISA fight was a chance for Obama to show what he was made of and
what he really believed in and how much energy he was willing to expend on a non-presidential campaign issue. He did. He was willing to expend none. And the silence from his partisans on his betrayal of his followers and his country is deafening.

I will vote for Obama with even more reluctance than ever because the alternative is even worse...but I will never trust a word he says.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:07 AM
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2. "Change We Can Believe In"......Rightt.....
Same-o same-o
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:34 AM
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3. Believe it...He want's the fisa power.
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:00 AM
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4. Obama is calculating that he can win without progressives
Their EV strategy is still viable. It's a big FU to us. He doesn't need our votes at this point.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:31 AM
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7. He'll need our money though, netroots are his biggest contributors. THIS Is a dumbfuck move of his
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:07 AM
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5. It's not over yet.
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 11:08 AM by PassingFair
Why don't we wait and see the result
of all of our complaints...

I believe he will turn this around.

In the meantime, if you haven't done so,
please contact his campaign and let him
know how important this issue is to you.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:12 AM
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6. The GOP's latest talking point...
...is that Obama is a media creation, calculating and manipulative.

All these responses reinforce that, without providing any evidence to support the claims.

I call shenanigans.
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