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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:57 AM
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Law School Wants to Hang Bush — Literally
The Massachusetts School of Law at Andover is holding a conference in September to plan the prosecution of President Bush and other administration officials for war crimes.

“This is not intended to be a mere discussion of violations of law that have occurred,” Lawrence Velvel, dean of the school, said in remarks reported by the OpEdNews Web site.

“It is, rather, intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if need be, to the ends of the earth.”

Velvel goes on to say, even more outrageously, “We must try to hold Bush administration leaders accountable in courts of justice. And we must insist on appropriate punishments, including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war criminals in the 1940s.”

He asserted that following the prosecution of German and Japanese leaders after World War II, those nation’s leaders changed their countries’ “aggressor cultures,” and said: “For Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Yoo to spend years in jail or go to the gallows for their crimes would be a powerful lesson to future American leaders.”

Yoo served from 2001 to 2003 in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. He contributed to the Patriot Act and wrote memos in which he advocated the possible legality of torture.

The conference will explore such issues as which high-level officials are chargeable with war crimes, and which foreign and domestic tribunals can prosecute them, according to OpEdNews.

The Massachusetts School of Law at Andover was established in 1988 to provide a legal education to minorities, immigrants and students from low-income families.

(I'm not going to post the link to this article because it's a Pub site, but this info was just too good to let go without telling you about it!)
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 11:59 AM
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1. Wow. I'm in - but a link is mandatory.
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 12:02 PM by geckosfeet
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:16 PM
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4. Sorry, I didn't know a link was a must. It's from NewsMax.com
I get their emails just to keep an eye on what the opposition is up to. Once in a while they even have something of interest!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:09 PM
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13. Well - for something of such magnitude it is common courtesy.
Sorry to imply anything other than that.

Thanks for the post.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:03 PM
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2. This is the link toOpEdNews, a progressive site:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:17 PM
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16. sign me up.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:04 PM
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3. Go Andover!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:17 PM
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5. I know Larry Velvel
He was my Criminal Law professor in law school. Right-wing drone. I'm amazed he's doing anything like this, but, then, he was always a big suckup. Reading about this Massachusetts School of Law at Andover, which sounds like it has its heart in the right place regarding higher education for minorities, maybe he's seen the light.

It would be nice to think so.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:26 PM
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6. I'll settle for impeaching him.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:30 PM
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14. Firing a multimillionaire murderer from a six figure job means nothing.
Putting him in a cage for the rest of his life is the only thing we can do to protect us from his criminal ways.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:54 PM
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15. The best revenge is to find them guilty, fine them to the poor house, and
feast at their expense.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:01 PM
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18. How about working the laundry at a federal prison? Make him
wash their dirty clothes.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:27 PM
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7. Huzzah for UMass-Andover! War Crimes Trials NOW!
:toast:
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:32 PM
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9. Massachusetts School of Law at Andover isn't UMass-Andover
Massachusetts School of Law is a bottom tier law school -it's not accredited by the ABA.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:03 PM
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12. Wups! My bad. Sorry. Huzzah for whoever! n/t
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:28 PM
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8. If members of Congress won't uphold their oaths and prosecute despots
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 12:28 PM by SusanaMontana41
then We the People will.

Patriots like Lawrence Velvel restore my faith in my country.

Thanks.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:33 PM
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10. Likely a European country will try Bush for War Crimes - New Republic 6/19/08
The New Republic
Travel Advisory by Scott Horton
The U.S. isn't likely to try Bush administration officials for war crimes--but it's likely that a European country will.
Post Date Thursday, June 19, 2008

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=597957fd-6bbf-4d02-b29f-3dbd35176038

Tuesday's Senate Armed Services Committee hearing provided the latest evidence that top Bush administration officials directed the use of torture techniques on detained suspected terrorists. Three panels of witnesses traced the use of highly coercive techniques back to the high echelons of the administration. The day ended with the grilling of William J. Haynes II, the former general counsel of the Department of Defense and a protégé of Cheney's chief of staff David Addington, who is now widely viewed as the "station master" of the administration's torture policy. And in April, ABC News reported that officials including Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, and Donald Rumsfeld had held a series of meetings to discuss the use of specific torture techniques on detained suspect terrorists. The ABC report amplified earlier stories which said the decision to destroy videotapes of interrogations of suspects in CIA captivity involved four senior White House lawyers and other senior figures.

At the same time, Philippe Sands's new book The Torture Team reveals the falsity of White House claims that the push to introduce torture techniques came from interrogators in the field. Sands demonstrates that the decision to use techniques like waterboarding came from the top, and tracks the elaborate scheme to make it appear that the practices began with a request from Guantánamo.

(snip)

Is it likely that prosecutions will be brought overseas? Yes. It is reasonably likely. Sands's book contains an interview with an investigating magistrate in a European nation, which he describes as a NATO nation with a solidly pro-American orientation which supported U.S. engagement in Iraq with its own soldiers. The magistrate makes clear that he is already assembling a case, and is focused on American policymakers. I read these remarks and they seemed very familiar to me. In the past two years, I have spoken with two investigating magistrates in two different European nations, both pro-Iraq war NATO allies. Both were assembling war crimes charges against a small group of Bush administration officials. "You can rest assured that no charges will be brought before January 20, 2009," one told me. And after that? "It depends. We don't expect extradition. But if one of the targets lands on our territory or on the territory of one of our cooperating jurisdictions, then we'll be prepared to act."

Viewed in this light, the Bush Administration figures involved in the formation of torture policy face no immediate threat of prosecution for war crimes. But Colin Powell's chief of staff, Colonel Larry Wilkerson, nails it: "Haynes, Feith, Yoo, Bybee, Gonzales and--at the apex--Addington, should never travel outside the U.S., except perhaps to Saudi Arabia and Israel. They broke the law; they violated their professional ethical code. In the future, some government may build the case necessary to prosecute them in a foreign court, or in an international court." Augusto Pinochet made a trip to London, and his life was never the same afterwards.

The Bush administration officials who pushed torture will need to be careful about their travel plans.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:34 PM
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11. Hold them accountable...

now!

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:27 PM
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17. I guess they were tired of the BFEE getting away with murder.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 04:01 AM
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19. Hanging is good--Bush believes in capital punishment, why should it only
be for poor people?
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 04:30 AM
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20. Its about time
I prescribe a short drop and a new rope.
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