Ex-Pentagon Lawyer Says He Researched 'Real Manchurian Candidate Stuff'

[halliburtonsux]

Ex-Pentagon Lawyer Says He Researched 'Real Manchurian Candidate Stuff' 17 Jun 2008 A former Pentagon lawyer scheduled to testify today before the Senate Armed Forces Committee told the New York Times he researched psychological studies about the effects of interrogation after his superiors expressed frustration about Guantanamo detainees withholding information. The lawyer, Richard Schiffrin, said the information he obtained included studies of North Koreans’ (and CIA) attempted mind-control experiments on American prisoners during the Korean War. "It was real Manchurian Candidate stuff," he told the Times. The revelation comes amid disclosures that Pentagon lawyers played a more active and earlier role than previously disclosed in developing aggressive interrogation techniques for use at Guantanamo, the story says.

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This item was found at Citizens For Legitimate Government.

[autorank]

1. Not surprising at all, other than they actually did research. n/t k*4

[halliburtonsux]

2. Yeah, they needed to research earlier findings of the CIA and NSA. :)

n/t

[whistle]

3. That shit was actually conducted by American and Canadian psychologists during

...WWII and the cold war era at Harvard and Yale and in Montreal and out in Western Canada and continues even today.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/jewell.htm

[halliburtonsux]

4. No surprises here - the US govt has a disgusting history of murder...

and torture --all executed under the cover of 'democracy' and/or 'national security.'

[tanyev]

5. Naomi Klein has a good summary of it in the first part of The Shock Doctrine.

Very disturbing to read.

[pnorman]

8. From that site: Sidney Gottleib

"Gottleib was in imported German scientist who had very strong US intelligence ties, one of which was Richard Helms, who was the CIA's deputy director of covert ops. After being recruited to the United States at the end of WWII, Gotleib also headed MK Ultras Chemical Division."

Gottleib was for a while the Superior of Joseph Mengele at Auscwhitz. After being recruited to the United States, Gottleib replaced Willis Gibbins to over see MK Ultra. "



I was somewhat familiar with that topic, so that bio rang off an alarm. Here's the Wiki on him:

"Sidney Gottlieb (August 3, 1918 – March 7, 1999) was an American military psychiatrist and chemist probably best-known for his involvement with the Central Intelligence Agency's mind control program MKULTRA.

Sidney was born in the Bronx under the name Joseph Schneider. He received a Ph.D. in chemistry from the California Institute of Technology. A stutterer from childhood, Gottlieb got a master's degree in speech therapy. He also had a club foot, but this did not stop him from practicing folk dancing, a lifelong passion."


There is absolutely NO way that disparity could be attributed to "honest error"! This is SERIOUS, and does NOT need bogus information.

pnorman

[formercia]

11. Self-delete. n/t

[anonymous171]

6. I wonder what kind of mind control stuff the VC did on McCain. nt

[Hatchling]

7. Whatever MC the VC did to McCain

We probably put the finishing touches to. Remember the McCain/Bush hug? The "maverick" who is no longer a "maverick"?


edit: oops! wrong war in title

[halliburtonsux]

13. Yeah, whatever was done to McLunatic, the nutjob should not...

have his hand on the nuclear 'button.'

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. So, whose side was the CIA on during the Koren War?

[halliburtonsux]

10. The CIA is on the corpora-terrorist side, in *any* war.

n/t

[Festivito]

12. The war side. /nt