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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:18 PM
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Did the NYT Just Out Another CIA Agent to Help the NeoCons Invade Iran?
Introduction Today, I read one of the screwiest New York Times articles I have read in a while. And since the newspaper of record produces some flaky stories that is saying a lot. One of the guys on their CIA Bashing Beat, Scott Shane ignored the objections of a former CIA agent turned CIA contractor (he used to be an interrogator) as well as the objections of the current CIA head in order to write an incredibly inane bit of fluff that no one would call cutting edge journalism. There is nothing important in the article. No new information is disclosed. This story did not have to be told. Since it is a character sketch told as hearsay, it is also bad journalism.

Why was it written? Shane is not starved for sources. He has plenty of credits under his name. Why did he have to write about this particular employee of the CIA, giving his full name, describing the roll he played in the interrogation of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed?

A kind interpretation would be that Shane is writing in defense of the Geneva Conventions. He is advocating an end to torture, since the former CIA agent and current contract employee whom he describes did not use torture himself. However, the text does not bear this theory out. Instead, Shame describes his subject, Martinez, as complicit in torture if not a hands on participant:

He chose to leave the infliction of pain and panic to others, the gung-ho paramilitary types whom the more cerebral interrogators called “knuckledraggers.”

Mr. Martinez came in after the rough stuff, the ultimate good cop with the classic skills: an unimposing presence, inexhaustible patience and a willingness to listen to the gripes and musings of a pitiless killer in rambling, imperfect English. He achieved a rapport with Mr. Mohammed that astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers.


Good cop, bad cop? That is not a nice portrait at all. That is the kind of characterization that could get Martinez or his family in serious trouble if they traveled outside the U.S. Maybe even killed.

What is the real purpose of this story?



I. Background: The NeoCons are at War with the CIA and the NYTs is One of their Allies

First, for some background please review one of my journals “The CIA is enemy territory": Paul Wolfowitz Againt U.S. Intelligence in which I make the case that the NeoCons outed Valerie Plame as part of an ongoing feud with the agency that has refused to provide them with justification for either the invasion of Iraq or Iran.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2460895&mesg_id=2460895

I also believe that the NeoCons were the source the leak about the destroyed torture tapes, which came on the heels of the CIA’s Iran NIE, the one that declared that there is absolutely no reason for us to invade Iran. I called this two part series of journals which I wrote “Smoke in Our Eyes” Here are the links.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2430332&mesg_id=2430332

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2434544&mesg_id=2434544

In the first journal, I speculated that the Two Torture Tapes story originated in the office of the Vice President and that it was a set up so that the right wing could denounce the CIA as untrustworthy---which would allow it to dismiss the Iran NIE as not worthy of notice. Note that in my second journal I show how both the NeoCon NYT and the NeoCon WaPo wrote the editorials I predicted---as if the newspapers had coordinated their messages with the WH. Condemn the CIA as liars and cheats who torture and then engage in cover ups after the fact, and you can discredit anything that they say and do, never mind that the Iran NIE came from a new CIA under new leadership. Also note that in the first journal I predicted that the administration would attempt to prevent Congressional investigation and cover its own ass regarding torture (since the two torture tapes story would also dirty the WH) by seeking to implicate Democrats, making it a bipartisan scandal. The WaPo did this with their infamous Pelosi Knew headline.

The NYTs (including writer Scott Shane) have been pushing the CIA/Two Torture Tapes story ever since--at the same time that they have been pounding the drums to war with Iran.

II. The NYTs Identifies A CIA Ex-Employee and Current Contractor By Name Over His Objections---Shades of Valerie Plame

This article is really something.
Inside a 9/11 Mastermind’s Interrogation by Scott Shane
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/washington/22ksm.html

Not the substance of the article. Basically, we have “The CIA tortured some guy who was a known Al Qaeda terrorist leader but they had more luck when they tried winning his trust.” Wow. What a no brainer.

This is the part that made my jaw drop.

Mr. Martinez declined to be interviewed; his role was described by colleagues. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, director of the C.I.A., and a lawyer representing Mr. Martinez asked that he not be named in this article, saying that the former interrogator believed that the use of his name would invade his privacy and might jeopardize his safety. The New York Times, noting that Mr. Martinez had never worked undercover and that others involved in the campaign against Al Qaeda have been named in news articles and books, declined the request. (An editors’ note on this issue has been posted on The Times’s Web site.)


Okaaa…

Here is what it says on the web site.

http://nytimes.com/2008/06/22/washington/web22ksmnote.html

The Central Intelligence Agency asked The New York Times not to publish the name of Deuce Martinez, an interrogator who questioned Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other high-level Al Qaeda prisoners, saying that to identify Mr. Martinez would invade his privacy and put him at risk of retaliation from terrorists or harassment from critics of the agency.

After discussion with agency officials and a lawyer for Mr. Martinez, the newspaper declined the request, noting that Mr. Martinez had never worked under cover and that others involved in the campaign against Al Qaeda have been named in news stories and books. The editors judged that the name was necessary for the credibility and completeness of the article.

The Times’s policy is to withhold the name of a news subject only very rarely, most often in the case of victims of sexual assault or intelligence officers operating under cover.
Mr. Martinez, a career analyst at the agency until his retirement a few years ago, did not directly participate in waterboarding or other harsh interrogation methods that critics describe as torture and, in fact, turned down an offer to be trained in such tactics.

The newspaper seriously considered the requests from Mr. Martinez and the agency. But in view of the experience of other government employees who have been named publicly in books and published articles or who have themselves chosen to go public, the newspaper made the decision to print the name.


WTF? Let me see if I have this right. Because Mr. Martinez decided not to participate in waterboarding, the NYT is going to punish him by making it impossible for him or his family to travel in half of the free world for the rest of their lives, and it will paint them as war criminals so that their friends and neighbors never look at them the same. As I point out in the introduction, Shane portrays Martinez as being in collusion with those who tortured Mohammed with his good cop/bad cop analogy. That makes him guilty in a moral sense---that is how Al Qaeda is going to see him. Guilty. That is how many Americans will see him. Guilty. So much for the argument about only protecting the identities of those who physically administered torture. People like Martinez will have their names splashed across the pages of the NYTs, at the whim of its writers and editors based upon the word of people whose identities the NYT protects. Note that Shane does not identify any of the witnesses against Martinez.

Here is another problem with the NYT's argument. It claims that it has to name Martinez for the credibility and completeness of the article . Hello? Earth to NYTs. If you care so much about credibility, why does Shane repeatedly refer to anonymous sources within the CIA and intelligence community who describe Martinez and his work for the CIA and his character and their guesses as to the inner workings of his mind? If Shane has no problem naming a man who asked not be written about, surely he can name the sources who spoke on the record about a man who did not want to be written about. Were there really sources within the CIA who talked behind Martinez’s back, knowing that Martinez did not want to be the subject of this article? People who said nasty things like

"He did not condemn the tough methods, colleagues said, but he was learning that his talents lay elsewhere."


If there were, I would love to know who they are. I'll bet that Martinez would love to know who they are, too.

More NYT illogic---because other people have decided to write books in which they “out” themselves for whatever reason (possibly for money or maybe because they have a great story to tell), the NYTs believes that it has a right to out Mr. Martinez---for money or because it believes that he has a great story to tell, and it is a gosh darn shame that he has never told it. Never mind that hearsay from other parties is a crap way to tell someone’s story. Has the NYTs been reduced to the level of supermarket tabloid, getting interviews with the maid of Brittney Spears because that is the only way they can get any info about a celebrity?


The NYTs wants us to understand that they seriously considered Mr. Martinez’s request. They promise. But they absolutely had to write this story----why? Because someone in the office of the Vice President or maybe Paul Wolfowitz told them to? Because McClatchy had a big multipart series about how the U.S. military under Rumsfeld had beaten, tortured, jailed without charges, allowed to be indoctrinated and then finally dumped a bunch of prisoners from Gitmo?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/259/story/38772.html

And so the administration wanted to make sure that the newspaper of record told the world that it was really the spooks at the CIA that who were doing all the torturing? Even if it meant outing another CIA agent whom we are told one minute is retired (so it ok, we are not losing a resource in the war on terror). But wait---

Martinez has not turned away entirely from his old world. He now works for Mitchell & Jessen Associates, a consulting company run by former military psychologists who advised the C.I.A. on the use of harsh tactics in the secret program.
And his new employer sent Martinez right back to the agency. For now, the unlikely interrogator of the man perhaps most responsible for the horrors of 9/11 teaches other C.I.A. analysts the arcane art of tracking terrorists.


You know, this is starting to look more and more like the outing of Valerie Plame . As the administration ratchets up its plans for the invasion of Iran, is this article meant as a warning to the intelligence community? Back off with the Iran NIE, or we will go after you where you are most vulnerable---your agents.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:24 PM
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1. If There's Enough Time to Start a New War, There's Plenty for Impeachment
and that's the new form of Mutually Assured Destruction in these trying times.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:18 AM
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10. I like the way you think! n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:11 PM
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23. If Bush-Cheney really intend to "do" Iran with the CIAs help, this isn't the way to do it.
Your theory assumes, of course, that the Administration still has enough umph to be able to force the Joint Chiefs and the IC Mandarins to do something they've been resisting successfully for five years now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that anything's changed much in that regard. Outing more CIA officers isn't going to change things or gain anyone's cooperation.

More Kabuki Theatre.

The Grey Lady has been displaying some incredibly poor judgment during the same period, and they aren't making any friends, either. This is also more of the same.

This is a very interesting diary, but I don't buy its basic premise.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:53 PM
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2. K&R. Very interesting.
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 06:58 PM by ColonelTom
I remember your "Smoke in Our Eyes" piece before, and it was prescient. The NYT article struck me as weird when I read it this morning - shades of the cover story in Time (or was it Newsweek? I can't recall) on the interrogation of a prisoner at Gitmo. The earlier Gitmo cover story appeared to be a way of telling us "see, torture's really not all that bad, and besides, it works." This one doesn't accomplish that, or anything else meaningful in terms of actual news. So why was it worth outing an agent who, while perhaps not undercover, certainly has a lot to lose by having his identity revealed in the newspaper?

This is definitely a story to follow over the coming days. Thanks for posting this!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 07:18 PM
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3. I thought the Times was better than this crap writing. Has Murdoch now bought the Times too?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 07:31 PM
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4. The Pentagon under Rumsfailed was trying to nueter the CIA.
The CIA was not giving the Busholini Regime the Intel that would solidify the Illegal Invasion of Iraq. Tenet bent over but most of the CIA would not. Tenet was fired though because he wanted to further expose Ahmed Chalabi as a double agent, working for Iran. The deal was that Tenet would allowed to resign, get the Medal of Freedom, never divulge the actual events of the pre-911 Attacks.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 08:27 PM
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5. You thought the Times was "better" than this? You haven't been reading Simon Romero's
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 08:34 PM by Peace Patriot
crap--after crap after crap--on Hugo Chavez, Venezuela and the South American leftist, democratic, social justice "axis of evil" (the entire continent except for Peru and Colombia).

Here's an intro to the hilarious and informative BoRev.net, on the subject of NYT writer Simon Romero:

http://www.borev.net/2008/03/at_least_he_got_to_expense_it.html

http://www.borev.net/2008/02/tremble_before_optoplex_mighty.html

http://www.borev.net/2007/10/separated_at_birth.html

http://www.borev.net/2007/08/you_should_hear_what_the_zoroa.html

http://www.borev.net/2007/08/mock_shock_naked_cock_nyt_cove.html

http://www.borev.net/2007/08/so_i_was_going_to_write_about.html

And here's a whole bunch more of them:

http://www.borev.net/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Simon%20Romero&blog_id=1

Enjoy! And forget the NYT awready--or do you like to be abused, insulted, lied to and spit upon by people who consider themselves to be your "betters"?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 10:21 PM
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7. NeoCon def. of "anti-semitic"..."country that nationalizes oil that U.S. wants to own"
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 10:23 PM by McCamy Taylor
Not kidding. Any country that dares to nationalize its precious crude and thereby keeps the ill begotten progeny of Standard Oil from profiting from it will eventually be labeled a threat to the Jewish people.

Cases in point...

1. Iraq which the Bush administration painted as the source of the 9/11 terrorist attack and Al Qaeda and a threat to Israel

2. Iran which is now supposed to be the biggest threat to Israel

3. See links above about Venezuela (why the fuck would Venezuela, a secular state, care more about repressing one religion than another?) being attacked as anti-semitic. Dudes, it is the right wing states in South America that shelter Nazis.

4. Mexico will be next on the list. It will be denounced as a haven for would be "islamo-fascist terra-ists" itching to get into the country disguised as laborers, and the US will insist upon moving in to secure the border---and suck up the country petroleum.

You know who is anti-semitic? James Baker III when he said "Fuck the Jews. They vote Democratic anyway." I am sure that kind of attitude endears him to his Saudi masters.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:09 AM
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9. The REAL threats to Israel are, a) the Bush Junta, and b) its own rightwing crazies
and war profiteers, who have stupidly allied Israel with the most hated U.S. regime in history. And we are all--the American people and the Israeli people--being terrorized by these warmongering wingers in both places.

The Jewish community in Venezuela sent letters to the Simon Weisenthal Center telling them to STFU about anti-semitism in the Chavez government because it ISN'T TRUE.

You are right--it's all about THE OIL.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:44 PM
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15. Wow! Thank you, Peace Patriot! I want to read every one. n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 10:07 PM
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6. when are all neocons going to be locked up for good?
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 04:28 AM
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8. Sigh. Again?
K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:58 AM
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11. K&R








"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:06 AM
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12. It was an odd article
but it is newsworthy. Martinez was the interrogator for Abu Zubaydah, bin al-Shibh, al-Nashiri and KSM. Perhaps the article wanted to make the case that yes indeed these detainees were tortured but the upcoming high level detainee trials are fair because Martinez didn't use any rough tactics to attain information.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:35 PM
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30. as if the NY Times had a stake in the matter?
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:02 PM
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13. Kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 12:42 PM
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14. There is a war between Cheney and CIA but Martinez is scum
and he works for scum.

Those "former military psychologists" enabled the spread of torture all over our military prison system. That's who these f#ckers are.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:20 PM
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16. K&R Wonderful post..
Hopefully there is enough internal opposition to prevent Cheney from going to war with Iran. No help from the MSM though.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:58 PM
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17. Damn McCamy.
I just finished reading this NYT piece right before I discovered your post, and it's like you were reading my mind.

Dead-on analysis as usual. Thanks mucho. And recommended.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:14 PM
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18. Goddamn it.
This bullshit White House-CIA fued has been going on since Reagan, and I'm am disappointed to see that it is still going on. The White House tells the CIA they don't want to know the workings, because that gives them justifiable deniability, but then the WH goes behind the CIA's back and screws them over. No wonder the CIA is so fucking paranoid all the time. The creation of the Intelligence 'Czar' only further fueled the hatred of the executive by the CIA. A Czar was NEVER necessary. All that needed to be changed were a few paragraph's of code, allowing the FBI and CIA directors and leadership to communicate. I bet you didn't know that this was illegal for the most part. Fucking Christ, we are in for a world of hurt if we continue to piss off the CIA. I wouldn't be surprised if a coup is mounting, or attempts at one have already been made. Policy douchebags should not be involved in intelligence gathering or analyzing. Leave it to the fucking professionals. Fuck you, George. You had good intel from the CIA telling you that 9/11 was going to happen, and you ignored it. And you were even wiretapping Americans illegally before 9/11. Well, if it wasn't terrorists, just WHO were you tapping, dickwad?

sorry for the rant, but my respect for the CIA far surpasses any respect I have for the WH.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:32 PM
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19. 'Way before Reagan. It probably started as soon as CIA
got going as an organization. Eisenhower referred to it indirectly in his famous statement about the military-industrial complex and Kennedy had to struggle with CIA for his whole tenure.

And given all the horrible crimes against humanity CIA has been involved in, I don't understand how you can respect them, at all.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:43 PM
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20. CIA was created to deal with the gray areas of law involving spying
in other countries. Technically, they are the only branch of government that is supposed to do anything that is above the law (since they deal with international affairs where there is no uniform law---just lots of countries with different legal systems interacting in ways that often are not even acknowledged in official channels).

I have a really big problem with a military and an executive branch and a DOJ and a judicial system that start acting like our spy agency---and which then start trying to blackmail and handicap the spy agency so that it can not do its work.

Whether we even want a spy agency is one question. That is open to debate.

There is no debate about whether or not the WH should be allowed to become its own spy agency in order to take over the role of the CIA, exempt from Congressional oversight. The answer is a great big no.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:53 PM
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22. Illegal arms dealing, torture and assassination have been
the CIA's stock in trade nearly since their inception. I'm probably forgetting other projects like money laundering, propagandizing Americans via major media outlets and operating illegal military operations without White House approval as they did in South East Asia, Central America, North Africa, Cuba and who knows where now -- probably Pakistan.

Black Water is just CIA privatized, for example.

They're not just spies, McCamy Taylor. They've never been just spies. It's completely predictable that they are in a war with Cheney but that doesn't make them somehow noble or clean.

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:42 AM
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24. The CIA is not supposed to be noble nor clean...
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 02:44 AM by crimsonblue
By charter, they are legally allowed to do all of the illegal stuff normally Americans cannot do. There's a reason there are strictly forbidden from doing ANYTHING domestically-related -- they'd be open to a world of lawsuits and such. I'm not naive to think that we don't need to use gray and black methods to deal with international problems and to gather reliable intel, but it needs to be kept within the CIA, because they have the proper channels and leadership in place to accurately determine situations and make judgement calls on the fly. Also, somebody high up is always in the know about an operative's actions or clandestine activities. These events are kept from the President to afford him plausible deniability, and whenever the DCI, DO, DI, or other CIA department heads feel it pertenent, the Prez is notified. As an added bonus, the CIA is embedded in many other departments, especially the State Department. Take a stroll on State's official directory and you will find lots of vague intelligence bureaus, a few of which I have corroborated are somewhat of shell offices.

Edit: I forgot to add that the CIA only began to take part in extraordinary renditions and torture because they were given the green light by the DOJ. The CIA does not (usually) make policy, they only follow through on the orders of others.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:54 AM
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25. Regale me with who "our" enemies are. "Our" enemies are the enemies of corporations.
"I'm not naive to think that we don't need to use gray and black methods to deal with international problems and to gather reliable intel"

Has murdering and torturing union organizers, destroying moderate socialists governments so US corporations can destroy their economies, and medical testing in and outside the US on regular citizens protected "us" from "our" enemies. What recognizable "me" or "us" is WH, the CIA, the DIA, the DOD, the NROS fighting for?

We have been in a paranoid wish-fulfillment mode since WWII. That's not "naive" that's just reality.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:27 AM
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27. unfortunately, the world is not full of sunshine and daisies...
there are baddies out there, and we need to be able to obtain good intelligence, and yes, act either overtly or covertly whenever leaders determine it is necessary (or just want to). Like I said, the CIA is not running around on a free leash. They do as they are directed by higher ups, be it the DCI, DO, DI, or other department heads, or even other government departments, agencies, or the WH as needed. The CIA was started as the cold war was really heating up, and they provided us invaluable information on Soviet nukes, politics, and movements (how do you think we found out about the Cuban Missiles? yeah yeah, it was an air force plane, but the CIA developed the technology for the cameras, and without the CIA prodding, the planes wouldn't have flown over). I'm not going to say that the CIA is perfect or good in all respects, because it clearly isn't. But the CIA is a necessary tool for us to know what's going on in the world.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:10 PM
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29. Sunshine and daisies? Who do you think John Perkins is talking about
when he says "then they send in the jackals"?

You know, CIA is not Jack Ryan.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:08 PM
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28. No. The CIA was dropping guys into Cuba WHILE
Kennedy was negotiating with Khruschev and BEHIND his back at that.

And CIA didn't only begin extraordinary rendition and torture after being green lighted. They've been doing that for decades. Go to any major Central American city and ask around.

Just following orders, my granny. And, who do you have to be to follow those orders?

There is a segment of CIA that has always been criminal. Frank Church tried to clean it up but even he couldn't go far enough.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:44 PM
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21. Deuce Martinez? Are we sure that's his real name?
Sounds like a name from a Tom Clancy movie directed by Michael Bay.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:01 AM
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26. "a pitiless killer" -- that's the money shot
Never mind this or that "contractor," the whole thing is a sham to make us believe they were really "interrogating" people remotely connected to the crimes they are accused of, which I can assure you they are not. This and all the other articles like it are just part of the hoax.
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