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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:15 PM
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Poll question: If Bush attacks Iran, and the Democrats don't impeach....
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 08:16 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
Is it time for a nationwide general strike?

I'm talking about every single citizen, in every city, for an indefinite time period taking to the streets to protest until these criminals are forcibly removed from office.

They are beating the war drums in an eerily similar fashion. I see it in the headlines, I see it from the usual pundits, and most importantly, I see a charismatic Democrat about to destroy a pathetic Republican opponent in the general election in what can only be described as "coincidental" timing to have to attack yet another bogus "threat".

Say they attack Iran. Say the Democrats don't stop them.

Strike?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:24 PM
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1. another "tent city" on the mall in DC would be nice
thousands of screaming citizens living in the shadow of the white house
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:46 PM
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9. Has to be national. DC knows how to *handle* us. Price of gas means too many left out.
A general strike will mean everywhere. And once key industries strike (like trucking, shipping, and mass transit) everyone else might as well anyway.

Get the garbage men on board and it's OVER.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:24 PM
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2. Cant Congress members be arrested for Treason?
:shrug:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:44 PM
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8. There will be no time for that. As long as there was escalation we'd have time to stop the worst tho
If we just "nuked" Iran it'd be over.

But if a missle hit a nuclear facility or small town in Iran causing chaos and outrage, etc., we'd have time to organize before we attacked Teheran--a city that, along with its environs, is close to the population of all five boroughs of NYC: 13 million people. 7 million in the city proper.

We wouldn't have time to go through legal channels. The question then becomes what would we-the-people do to stop of a holocaust of immense proportions.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:30 PM
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3. Why would we be pissed? We've got cell phones that make pancakes!!!
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

...apologies to the late, great George Carlin, for stealing that line from him. :patriot:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:32 PM
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4. Don't wait to see, nationwide general strike IF he attacks Iran. Or when.
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Super Soaker Sniper Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:39 PM
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5. There would be
only 50% willing to even consider that the side calling a general strike were right. So only half would even agree. How many of those would be willing to sacrifice their jobs and livelyhood for something that would have very little effect on thier daily life anyway? We have been at war for 7 years and life has gone on. General Strikes are not something that will happen here. Americans were are way too comfortable.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:44 PM
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15. That's the spirit!
:thumbsdown:
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Super Soaker Sniper Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:52 PM
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16. More like facing
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 09:53 PM by Super Soaker Sniper
reality. Seriously, with looking only at facts and history. Truthfully and not viewing things as you would like them to be but as they actually are, a full General Strike will happen if we go to war with Iran?

I buy lottery tickets all of the time. I would like to win. I want to win. The same with the American People. I wish they would open their eyes or at least wake up. But like winning the lottery, I do not walk around believing it will actually happen. I have seen nothing that makes me believe otherwise at this time.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:39 PM
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6. I think we should start putting this in people's consciousness. And forget DC protests.
Forget meeting up in D.C. People on strike can't afford to spend $500-$1000 on gas to go to a rally. If a good number of people are on strike, enough to be a real threat, they'll be striking in Indiana and Iowa and Arizona too. We need to STAY IN OUR COMMUNITIES and strike.

Organizers will need to take donations for food for families. Hopefully the wealthy people and upper-middle class business owners and doctors who don't want to go to war with Iran will DONATE FOOD and HELP for working people who might lose their jobs.

Areas were there is no unionization might do better than areas with unions since many unions have "no strike" clauses in their contracts. This is what prevents wildcat strikes. Ununionized areas where people make $9 an hour and corporations rely on fear and conservative ideology to keep folks in line might actually be more amenable to a general strike.

Medical workers will not strike, of course. And it'd be great if some of the police struck too, but--ha!--yeah right.

Remember: EVEN IF IT DOESN'T "WORK" THE FIRST TIME, the fact that it CAN HAPPEN will be dramatic. We'll have to have very limited, up front goals that are very public so that the media can't run articles such as "but what did the strike really accomplish?" What is accomplished has to happen in the hearts and minds of neighbors for one another. Spontaneous performances of musical acts and actors and writers in the streets can't hurt either.

More than anything: we have to prove to one another that we can have solidarity. Beyond the internet too. This will not happen online. This can only happen in real-space.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:38 PM
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13. Which is why unions in this country are meaningless.
A union with a no-strike or regulated-strike policy is like
a military with a no-offensive-action policy.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:41 PM
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14. Yes, it becomes a self-interested group. I've experienced this first hand.
Teamsters crossed my picket line as did many other unions.

Worker solidarity is essential but that means secretaries with teachers with janitors with welders with nurses with waiters with journalists with cinematographers. What we have now is merely guilds fighting for their own skins. It's better than nothing, but not much more.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:40 PM
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7. I think we need to place our taxes into an escrow account.
When Congress does it's job. They get the money. But not until then.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 08:52 PM
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10. Please impeach BEFORE any such thing can become a reality.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:15 PM
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11. Thom Hartman said everyone should the lay in the crosswalks
All across the country, every crosswalk blocked with tons of people.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:26 PM
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12. yeah we could do hands across 1-95
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