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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:52 PM
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What Richard ''I Am Not a Crook'' Nixon was doing 36 years ago today.
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 10:00 PM by Octafish
Tricky Dick was very interested in getting the CIA's help in shutting down the FBI's investigation about a "third-rate burglary."
Here's the taped transcript that finally drove the warmonger from the Oval Office:



...BTW: "The Texans" refers to George Herbert Walker Bush, James Baker III and Robert Mosbacher.
The "Bay of Pigs Thing," according to then-White House Chief of Staff H. R. "Bob" Haldeman,
was apparently Nixon's code for the assassination of President Kennedy.



The Smoking Gun Tape

June 23, 1972

This is the transcript of the recording of a meeting between President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman in the Oval Office on June 23, 1972 from 10.04am to 11.39am.

Listen to the Audio of the Smoking Gun tape

Haldeman:  okay -that's fine. Now, on the investigation, you know, the Democratic break-in thing, we're back to the-in the, the problem area because the FBI is not under control, because Gray doesn't exactly know how to control them, and they have, their investigation is now leading into some productive areas, because they've been able to trace the money, not through the money itself, but through the bank, you know, sources - the banker himself. And, and it goes in some directions we don't want it to go. Ah, also there have been some things, like an informant came in off the street to the FBI in Miami, who was a photographer or has a friend who is a photographer who developed some films through this guy, Barker, and the films had pictures of Democratic National Committee letter head documents and things. So I guess, so it's things like that that are gonna, that are filtering in. Mitchell came up with yesterday, and John Dean analyzed very carefully last night and concludes, concurs now with Mitchell's recommendation that the only way to solve this, and we're set up beautifully to do it, ah, in that and that...the only network that paid any attention to it last night was NBC...they did a massive story on the Cuban...

Nixon:   That's right.

Haldeman:   thing.

Nixon:   Right.

Haldeman:   That the way to handle this now is for us to have Walters call Pat Gray and just say, "Stay the hell out of this...this is ah, business here we don't want you to go any further on it." That's not an unusual development,...

Nixon:   Um huh.

Haldeman:   ...and, uh, that would take care of it.

Nixon:   What about Pat Gray, ah, you mean he doesn't want to?

Haldeman:   Pat does want to. He doesn't know how to, and he doesn't have, he doesn't have any basis for doing it. Given this, he will then have the basis. He'll call Mark Felt in, and the two of them ...and Mark Felt wants to cooperate because...

Nixon:   Yeah.

Haldeman:   he's ambitious...

Nixon:   Yeah.

Haldeman:   Ah, he'll call him in and say, "We've got the signal from across the river to, to put the hold on this." And that will fit rather well because the FBI agents who are working the case, at this point, feel that's what it is. This is CIA.

Nixon:   But they've traced the money to 'em.

Haldeman:   Well they have, they've traced to a name, but they haven't gotten to the guy yet.

Nixon:   Would it be somebody here?

Haldeman:   Ken Dahlberg.

Nixon:   Who the hell is Ken Dahlberg?

Haldeman:   He's ah, he gave $25,000 in Minnesota and ah, the check went directly in to this, to this guy Barker.

Nixon:   Maybe he's a ...bum.

Nixon:   He didn't get this from the committee though, from Stans.

Haldeman:   Yeah. It is. It is. It's directly traceable and there's some more through some Texas people in--that went to the Mexican bank which they can also trace to the Mexican bank...they'll get their names today. And pause)

Nixon:   Well, I mean, ah, there's no way... I'm just thinking if they don't cooperate, what do they say? They they, they were approached by the Cubans. That's what Dahlberg has to say, the Texans too. Is that the idea?

Haldeman:   Well, if they will. But then we're relying on more and more people all the time. That's the problem. And ah, they'll stop if we could, if we take this other step.

Nixon:   All right. Fine.

Haldeman:   And, and they seem to feel the thing to do is get them to stop?

Nixon:   Right, fine.

Haldeman:   They say the only way to do that is from White House instructions. And it's got to be to Helms and, ah, what's his name...? Walters.

Nixon:   Walters.

Haldeman:   And the proposal would be that Ehrlichman (coughs) and I call them in

Nixon:   All right, fine.

Haldeman:   and say, ah...

Nixon:   How do you call him in, I mean you just, well, we protected Helms from one hell of a lot of things.

Haldeman:   That's what Ehrlichman says.

Nixon:   Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you will-that will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there's a hell of a lot of things and that we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves. Well what the hell, did Mitchell know about this thing to any much of a degree?

Haldeman:   I think so. I don 't think he knew the details, but I think he knew.

Nixon:   He didn't know how it was going to be handled though, with Dahlberg and the Texans and so forth? Well who was the asshole that did? (Unintelligible) Is it Liddy? Is that the fellow? He must be a little nuts.

Haldeman:   He is.

Nixon:   I mean he just isn't well screwed on is he? Isn't that the problem?

Haldeman:   No, but he was under pressure, apparently, to get more information, and as he got more pressure, he pushed the people harder to move harder on...

Nixon:   Pressure from Mitchell?

Haldeman:   Apparently.

Nixon:   Oh, Mitchell, Mitchell was at the point that you made on this, that exactly what I need from you is on the--

Haldeman:   Gemstone, yeah.

Nixon:   All right, fine, I understand it all. We won't second-guess Mitchell and the rest. Thank God it wasn't Colson.

Haldeman:   The FBI interviewed Colson yesterday. They determined that would be a good thing to do.

Nixon:   Um hum.

Haldeman:   Ah, to have him take a...

Nixon:   Um hum.

Haldeman:   An interrogation, which he did, and that, the FBI guys working the case had concluded that there were one or two possibilities, one, that this was a White House, they don't think that there is anything at the Election Committee, they think it was either a White House operation and they had some obscure reasons for it, non political,...

Nixon:   Uh huh.

Haldeman:   or it was a...

Nixon:   Cuban thing-

Haldeman:   Cubans and the CIA. And after their interrogation of, of...

Nixon:   Colson.

Haldeman:   Colson, yesterday, they concluded it was not the White House, but are now convinced it is a CIA thing, so the CIA turn off would...

Nixon:   Well, not sure of their analysis, I'm not going to get that involved. I'm (unintelligible).

Haldeman:   No, sir. We don't want you to.

Nixon:   You call them in.

Nixon:   Good. Good deal! Play it tough. That's the way they play it and that's the way we are going to play it.

Haldeman:   O.K. We'll do it.

Nixon:   Yeah, when I saw that news summary item, I of course knew it was a bunch of crap, but I thought ah, well it's good to have them off on this wild hair thing because when they start bugging us, which they have, we'll know our little boys will not know how to handle it. I hope they will though. You never know. Maybe, you think about it. Good!

**********

Nixon:   When you get in these people when you...get these people in, say: "Look, the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole Bay of Pigs thing, and the President just feels that" ah, without going into the details... don't, don't lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is sort of a comedy of errors, bizarre, without getting into it, "the President believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don't go any further into this case", period!

Haldeman:   OK

Nixon:   That's the way to put it, do it straight (Unintelligible)

Haldeman:   Get more done for our cause by the opposition than by us at this point.

Nixon:   You think so?

Haldeman:   I think so, yeah.

SOURCE: http://www.watergate.info/tapes/72-06-23_smoking-gun.shtml



This is obstruction of justice. We the People were ready to impeach the crook. Obstruction is the LEAST of George W Bush's much longer list of high crimes and misdemeanors.

EDIT: "36 years." Dehh!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:55 PM
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1. nixon was a busy little bee. georgie has been a very busy bee as well
and so has pelosi. i think she's a very busy, busy little bee. only nancy is one of those bees that has apparently lost all sense of direction. she can't find her way anymore.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:03 PM
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8. I think Nixon's handlers at CIA have turned NSA's technology on the Liberals.
They listen in to every freaking conversation and use that information to disrupt the opposition political party.
They, it seems to me more than likely, also use information to blackmail the Speaker and most everyone else who opposes them.

Nixon said: "Anyone who opposes us, we’ll destroy. As a matter of fact, anyone who doesn’t support us, we'll destroy."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:51 PM
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16. And what were the Democrats doing in 1972?
How many of them took impeachment off the table?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:56 PM
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2. 36?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:59 PM
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4. Ha! Absolutely 36!
I'll fix. In the meantime, a famous quote from L. Fletcher Prouty:

According to a biography of Richard Nixon, his close personal and political ties with the Bush family go back to 1941 when Nixon claims he read an ad in an L A. newspaper, placed by a wealthy group of businessmen, led by Prescot Bush, the father of George Bush. They wanted a young, malleable candidate to run for Congress. Nixon applied for the position and won the job. Nixon became a mouthpiece for the Bush group.

Thanks for the heads-up, BuyingThyme!

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:16 PM
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10. Fun facts about 45 years ago today:
June 23, 1963 was the date of Martin Luther King's Great March to Freedom.

Mitt Romney once claimed that his father marched with Martin Luther King on that date.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:59 PM
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6. yep
at first I thought he meant 45 years, which would have meant helping plan you know who's assass

just kidding, I think
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:17 PM
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11. You're always thinking ahead, Gabi Hayes.


And absolutely correct about what you see about the past, too. Here's what I was thinking about:



The Kennedy Assasination:
The Nixon-Bush Connection


by Paul Kangas

EXCERPT...

Richard Nixon was Vice President from 1952 until 1960. In fact, Nixon was given credit for planning Operation 40, the secret 1961 invasion of Cuba, during his 1959 campaign for President After Batista was kicked out by the starving people of Cuba, and Fidel Castro came to power, Castro began telling American corporations they would have to pay Cuban employees decent wages. Even worse, Pepsi Cola was told it would now have to pay world market prices for Cuban sugar.

CONTINUED...

http://raenergy.igc.org/kennedy.html



Ask Porter Goss, in the photo above next to murdered CIA operative and drug pilot: Things have only gotten worse, haven't they, Gabi Hayes?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:21 PM
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14. yes, indeed, they have. and the people who were behind that coup
have only cemented their grip on the intel services, the media, and the politicians since then.

for example, look who remains one of the leading 'lights' in the senate: the most successful political fiction writer in US history.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:58 PM
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3. The country survived Nixon, and we will survive Bush.
All we have to do is throw the bums out and keep 'em out for awhile.

Thanks for posting.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:10 PM
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9. My Friend, we need to throw them out and into jail. Otherwise, they keep coming back for more blood.
They're like a flock of warmongering vampires. And they all work to make money off of war. The brothers Dulles and Prescott Bush and their bosses Harriman and Walker to the military industrial complex and George Herbert Walker Bush and Richard Nixon and America’s pretty-much permanent state of war.

I remember when Nixon resigned. We played frisbee on a bluff overlooking Lake Michigan. We listened to music. We laughed. We partied. I wish you were there with us, amandabeech! I know you'd be most welcome and we would be most honored.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:17 AM
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22. I was selling tickets to the dune scooter rides at Silver Lake on Lake Michigan!
I was there with you in spirit.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:23 AM
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23. The Nixon Administration was like a Kindergarten for this bunch..
Cheney and Rumsfeld were just bouncing little boys on Nixon's knee. They learned well and remembered all of their lessons.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:59 PM
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5. You mean 36 years ago, right? n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:39 PM
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15. Yes, thank you! Then there's the 13-minute gap...
I believe it's the asterisks part...

These so-and-sos steal elections to this very day.



June 23, 1972 -- Nixon and Haldeman have the "smoking gun" conversation

Democratic Central
Progressive blogging in Central Virginia
by: cvllelaw
Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 08:00:00 AM EDT



EXCERPT...

Almost immediately after the arrests, a cover-up was undertaken by persons associated with the President and his campaign.  After learning from White House Chief of Staff H. R. "Bob" Haldeman on June 23, 1972, that his former attorney general John Mitchell, who was now running CREEP, might have been involved with the burglary, President Nixon instructed Haldeman to head off a possible FBI investigation.  (I have always assumed that Nixon did not know about the break-in plan before the arrests; I know of no information to the contrary.)  Nixon and Haldeman decided in that June 23 conversation that they would tell the FBI that they couldn't investigate because it would interfere with a CIA operation.  

Woodward teamed up with Carl Bernstein to report on the Watergate scandal throughout the summer. Woodward and Bernstein received information from someone with inside knowledge of the White House, a source known as "Deep Throat." (disclosed just recently to have been Mark Felt, acting Deputy Director of the FBI).  According to Woodward, Deep Throat only confirmed information that Woodward had already received from other inside sources. The Post's interest in the case was not shared much by other newspapers. Although the Post continued to investigate, little more came to light during the balance of the campaign. On August 19, Nixon declared that no one then employed in his administration was involved in Watergate. On September 15, indictments were handed down on the five men arrested on June 26, plus Liddy and Hunt.

On November 7, 1972, Nixon was re-elected President in one of the most resounding landslide victories in American political history, losing only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia to Senator George McGovern. Information obtained from the Democratic National Committee offices was allegedly used to aid Nixon in his re-election campaign.  (Objectively, it is hard to see how the break-in could have provided information that made a difference.  Particularly after McGovern had to jettison his Vice-Presidential nominee, Tom Eagleton, after it was learned that he had received electro-shock treatment for depression, the Democratic ticket never had a chance.)

CONTINUED...

http://www.democraticcentral.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2272



In a way, I also wish I'd started with that article above.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:55 PM
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18. oooohh, oooohhh.....eighteen and a half minutes....
also, I meant to say, isn't there speculation that this gap was a result of their realization that it was a discussion of the KENNEDY ASSASSINATION, code words for which, in WH conversation were thought to possibly be "Bay of Pigs?"

I know I've read that in several places


guess I could google.....
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:00 PM
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7. Prescott B. plays Sabrina to Nixxxxxon's Linus ...
"No, no, Milhouse -- the brim of your hat MUST be
worn THUS ... "
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:53 PM
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17. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!


Yeh. "Nixon's" henchmen got the old gang together!

All those people from the "Bay of Pigs" days brought together for one more job. Then McCord re-attaches tape to the door. Poof! Everybody's busted all the way up to E Howard Hunt (through the liar and traitor G Gordon Liddy). Next thing we know, no more Tricky Dick, cut-out to the Bushes and Harrimans and so on...

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:17 PM
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12. "Mark Felt... he's ambitious"
And as the true "Deep Throat", I for one am glad that he was.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:19 PM
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13. Mark Felt is a piece of shit.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:45 AM
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20. Something else really bad about Dick: He helped prolong the war BEFORE he was president.


A pair of crooks: Then-president Richard M Nixon shakes hands with then-Rev Sun Myung Moon.



New Study:

Nixon ‘Wrecked Early Peace In Vietnam’


by Martin Kettle in Washington
Published on Wednesday, August 9, 2000 in the Manchester Guardian (UK)

On the eve of his election in 1968, Richard Nixon secretly conspired with the South Vietnamese government to wreck all-party Vietnam peace talks as part of a deliberate effort to prolong a conflict in which more than 20,000 Americans were still to die, along with tens of thousands of Vietnamese and Cambodians.

The devastating new charge against Nixon, which mirrors long-held suspicions among members of President Lyndon Johnson’s administration about the Republican leader’s actions in the autumn of 1968, is made by the authors of a new study of Nixon’s secret world in the latest issue of Vanity Fair magazine.

“The greatest honour history can bestow,” reads the inscription on Nixon’s black granite tombstone in California, “is the title of peacemaker.” But if the charges by authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan are correct, Nixon better deserves to be called a peacewrecker than peacemaker.

At the heart of the new account was Nixon’s fear that Vietnam peace efforts by President Johnson in the run-up to the November 1968 US presidential election could wreck Nixon’s bid to oust Hubert Humphrey, the Democratic candidate, and capture the White House.

Nixon’s response to Johnson’s efforts was to use a go-between, Anna Chennault, to urge the South Vietnam’s president, Nguyen van Thieu, to resist efforts to force them to the peace table.

Nixon’s efforts paid off spectacularly. On October 31, Johnson ordered a total halt to the bombing of North Vietnam, the precondition for getting the North and their Vietcong allies to join the talks. Two days later, under intense secret urgings from Nixon and his lieutenants, Thieu announced his government would not take part. Less than a week later, Nixon was elected president with less than a one-point margin in the popular vote over Humphrey.

SNIP...

On October 31, with the bombing halt announced, Mitchell rang Chennault and told her: “Anna, I’m speaking on behalf of Mr Nixon. It’s very important our Vietnamese friends understand our Republican position and I hope you have made that clear to them. Do you think they have decided not to go to Paris?”

Chennault made contact with Thieu once again. An FBI report said that she “contacted Vietnamese ambassador and advised him that she had received a message from her boss (not further identified) which her boss wanted her to give personally to the ambassador. She said the message was that the ambassador is to ‘Hold on, we are gonna win’ and that her boss also said ‘Hold on, he understands all of it’.”

On November 2, three days before the election, Thieu announced that South Vietnam would not attend the talks.


CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/080900-01.htm



I don't hate Nixon, per se, but I do hate warmongering. Wonder what he's doing these days? Do they have TWITTER in hell?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:31 AM
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19. "We the People" didn't impeach Nixon. Woodward & Congress magically got the dirt to prevent
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:33 AM by Leopolds Ghost
Worse thigs from coming out... things that would have implicated others in
worse things from the 1960s.

Woodward's handlers and Republicans in
Congress were forced to sacrifice Nixon.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:49 AM
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21. Meanwhile in an office in Washington, Pelosi gazes at the ceiling.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:54 AM
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24. K&R n/t
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