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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:14 AM
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Terror "threats" timed to thwart Kerry in '04
Paul Abrams

The recent claims by McCain's Charlie Black about a terrorist attack helping McCain were not spontaneous. The Republicans have done that before, and, remember, Karl Rove is now a free agent who "chats" to the McCain campaign.

Moreover, they are not novel. Beginning with the immediate aftermath of the Democratic Convention in 2004, and continuing through the fall campaign, the Bush Administration formally announced a rise in the terror threat every time polls showed the Kerry/Edwards campaign achieving some positive momentum.

Just like, as Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card said in September of 2002, you don't "sell a war in August", there apparently was no "need" of multiple terrorist alerts prior to the Democratic Convention in 2004.

The first, coming within days of the Democratic Convention, blunted Kerry's post-convention bounce. Remember, at that time, Katrina had not yet happened, the Iraq War was only 18 months old, and the media were unwilling even to question that Bush was asleep-at-the-wheel on 9/11. Thus, terror alerts not only diverted attention, but had the predictable effect on peoples' psyches to lean toward the known compared to the unknown.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/terror-threats-timed-to-t_b_109053.html"> Lots more, including the election fraud in Ohio
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:26 AM
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1. The whole country was being Gaslighted..
we still are.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:42 AM
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2. They are terrorists...check out KO's The Nexus of Politics and Terror
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:44 AM by cbc5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ


There's no doubt in my mind they use terrorism to scare the American people into submission.


An attack overseas, a Bin Ladin tape, a US attack ... one of these 3 will happen before the election
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:45 AM
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3. Agreed.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:40 AM
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4. No, it's worse than that. The 'terror' threats were for writing a plausible narrative of a Bush win.
Remember, people were finally just laughing at all those "yellow" alerts just before the election? It was so ridiculous. Even the war profiteering corporate 'news' monopolies could hardly keep a straight face.

Before we can devise and implement the remedy, we need to understand the problem better. The main thrust of Bush Junta psyops in 2004 wasn't to convince anyone of anything. At most, it was to sow confusion. But mainly it was to convince us that Bush/Cheney COULD BE and WERE re-elected. And the most important fact we need to know, to understand this, is the fast-tracking, all over the country, of new electronic voting systems, run on 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by RIGHTWING BUSHITE corporations, with virtually no audit-recount controls, during the 2002 to 2004 period. This--the actual fascist coup--was enacted by the Anthrax Congress in Oct 02--a $3.9 BILLION e-voting boondoggle called the "Help America Vote Act" (HAVA) (ah, god!), in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution (IWR), and closely related to it. THE IWR guaranteed unjust war; HAVA provided the means--all else failing--for shoving the unjust war (and torture, and domestic spying, and massive theft of taxpayer money, and privatizing of Social Security, and shredding of the Constitution, and loss of habeas corpus, and Telecom immunity, and Bushite immunity, and cutting the Exxon-Valdez damages award billions to millions, etc.), down the throats of the American people.

And to understand this--what HAVA was for--you not only need to look at a range of issue/approval polls today (20% approval for Bush, is it? and some 70% to 80% think the country is headed to hell in a handbasket), you need to go back and look at polls in Feb '03, for instance, just before the invasion of Iraq: nearly SIXTY PERCENT of the American people opposed that invasion! (ALL polls!). And then look at a range of polls over the 2004-2005 period: 60% to 90% DISAPPROVAL of virtually every Bush policy, foreign and domestic.

WHAT'S. WRONG. WITH. THIS. PICTURE?

It's not that the American people are uninformed, uncaring, stupid 'sheeple,' terrorized by every phony "yellow alert." The American people are neither stupid nor uninformed--they have been DISENFRANCHISED. And though you and I may not have noticed that BIG antiwar majority (60%!) at the time of the invasion, our political establishment certainly did, and they took measures to defeat it--HAVA being the ultimate weapon against the will of the people. 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote counting!

There are many ways that our election system is fiddled to 'select' corporatists and war profiteers, for the benefit of the super-rich and global corporate predators. 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting provides the final edge. It makes change impossible. That is what it did in 2004. No matter how many new people we registered to vote (the Dem grass roots blew the Repubs away in new voter registration, nearly 60/40, in 2004), no matter that we did the miraculous and matched the Bush/Cheney money machine dollar for dollar in small donations, and no matter that the exit polls said Kerry won, THREE CORPORATIONS, with close ties to rightwing causes that would make your hair stand on end, were 'counting' all the votes with 'TRADE SECRET' CODE--and THEIR secret formulas said that Bush/Cheney won--and all the phony "terrorist" alerts, and all the anti-gay ballot initiatives, and the non-existent "invisible" Rove get-out-the-vote "in the churches," etc., were merely the PLAUSIBLE NARRATIVE for that 'TRADE SECRET' count. The lies didn't create their 'win.' The lies were COVER FOR their election theft.

And they did it again in 2006--a more complicated, Congressional election, with the appearance of a Democratic victory, but the upshot is this: SEVENTY PERCENT of the American people now against the war, we vote, and somehow produce a Congress that ESCALATES the war on Iraq, and lards Bush/Cheney with billions MORE of our tax dollars to keep killing Iraqis until they sign the oil contracts (and agreements for permanent occupation)! A 'Democratic' Congress that votes to END habeas corpus. That votes to give IMMUNITY for a list of "high crimes and misdemeanors" long enough to circle the earth. A Congress that won't enforce its own subpoena power. A non-Congress. A tool of the out-of-control, tyrannical Executive--our Founders' nightmare.

Money, the corporate 'news' monopolies and 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote 'counting' combine to thwart the will of the American people. And the Bushite/corporate 'news' NARRATIVES keep us confused, divided, thinking that other Americans are stupid 'sheeple,' keep us feeling helpless and powerless, and, more than anything else, keep us from understanding what the REAL problem is--or, rather, the most important strategic power problem: loss of transparent vote counting.

Change that--restore vote counting that everyone can see and understand, un-privatize it, get these fascist corporations out of it--and you will see a revolution like we have never seen before. This is STILL POSSIBLE--at the local/state level, where power over the voting system still resides.

And please don't be fooled by an Obama win, if that happens. There are a lot of reasons why the global corporate predators who rule over us might LET that happen, and, a) shave his mandate, and b) give him a difficult "Blue Dog" Congress (like the current one), so that no significant reform can occur (if he even intends it). For instance, the plan may be to blame a "liberal" for the coming American economic meltdown (they're already doing it--blaming "the Democrats" for gas gauging)--in order to install someone even worse than Bush, later. The one thing we should concentrate on, with all of our revolutionary fervor--no matter what happens in November--is restoring TRANSPARENT vote counting.



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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:49 AM
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5. They threw the threats out in '04. Those probably won't work anymore, so now they'll opt to
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 11:51 AM by mod mom
start another frickin war! :mad:

Here's McCain:

But McCain may be more open to the draft than it seems. During a July 2006 interview on CNN, McCain was asked about the following statement by Newt Gingrich: "We're in the early stages of what I would describes as the Third World War and, frankly, our bureaucracies aren't responding fast enough." Asked whether he agreed, McCain said:

"I do to some extent. I think it's important to recognize that we have terrorist organizations which -- who are dangerous by themselves, are now being supported by radical Islamic governments, i.e., the Iranians, which makes them incredibly more dangerous because they are trained, equipped, motivated and assisted in every way by the Iranians."
Also, as ThinkProgress noted, "Last October, President Bush himself warned of a coming 'World War III' with Iran. 'I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III,' said the President. 'It seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.'"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/25/mccain-world-war-iii-woul_n_109121.html

on edit-I don't mean to imply bu$h won in '04 just they allowed the cover-up of election theft with only limited knowledge.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:56 PM
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6. They'll trot them out and see how the polls respond.
That'll be step 1. Then we'll have an "incident" overseas. Then, maybe, a "terrorist plot" broken up in the U.S. All that before they start a war, I think. I doubt Bush will bomb Iran, frankly—I think he's gotten the word from his generals (including Petraeus) that it bombing Iran would have extremely negative repercussions throughout the middle-east, but especially in Iraq. We'd see a Shi'a uprising and the Green Zone overrun, just for starters. It's interesting the extent to which Bush's invasion/occupation of Iraq has put him in a straight-jacket vis-a-vis Iran; the unintended consequences just keep coming.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 01:04 PM
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7. Tom Ridge said as much after leaving Homeland Security
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 01:07 PM
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8. i think they will 'cause' a terrorist attack to try and forward the republican stanglehold
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 01:07 PM by spanone
don't forget kkkarl's dream of perpetual republican rule...you can't do that honestly
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:24 PM
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10. that's my fear
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:47 PM
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9. Dean knew it and said so publicly. Kerry backed Dean off and said
something along the lines of we have to take all threats seriously. Yes I remember well.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:57 PM
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11. The main problem with the Kerry run was the theft of the election,
just like with Gore. We must not let that happen again. If it does, we must take to the streets as a country. If McCain can win fair and square, so be it, but no more voter theft or disenfanchisement.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:44 PM
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12. K&R
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