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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:32 AM
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Chafee: "People think everything changed on September 11. No. It was wild in the first months."

http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=958abcc1-919a-4fa1-837d-a21a6d7850c8

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”People think everything changed on September 11. No.” Chafee said. “It was wild in the first months.”

Many Republicans were initially against the tax cuts, Chafee recalled, but the Bush administration kept after them until they changed their minds.

”One by one, every Republican got in line,” he said.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Chafee said he was inclined to vote against giving the president permission to retaliate. The resolution was hastily conceived, and Chafee wondered if Bush could handle the situation. When the resolution was on the floor, no one was even sure what they were voting on.

However, after learning how angry Rhode Island residents were about the attacks, Chafee voted to give the president permission to retaliate against the terrorist group al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Only one congresswoman, Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee of California, voted no.

”She got death threats; she got burned in effigy,” Chafee said. “When I saw that, I said, 'whew.'”

Later, Chafee was one of 23 senators who voted against the war in Iraq.

”It was all hype. There was never any evidence,” he said.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:50 AM
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1. too little too late Linc
we all know how criminal this regime is. It's stunning how these are not impeachable offenses.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:52 AM
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2. we have insider like McClellan and Chafee telling us it was lies and propaganda
and the Dem leaders stay silent...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:00 AM
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4. staying silent and covering their own butts
or just do not care about the Constitution.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:53 AM
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3. No...."people" don't...some people do (and some people just claim it to cloak their crimes with)
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:54 AM by Solly Mack
and some people have always thought that while September 11 was a tragedy...what followed was a far-reaching travesty of monstrous proportions...and for the country as a whole - much, much worse.

and since her vote has been brought up again... More Cheers for Rep. Lee.

I detest the lie that everyone got behind Bush after that day...or that everyone thought "everything changed" on that day

and this


"After all, Bush was the candidate who famously proposed to be a uniter, not a divider, and who proposed a modest foreign policy during the campaign."

Anyone who believed that ("uniter") to be true about Bush was a fool or a liar.

Whenever I hear, "I took Bush at his word" (in any of its forms) - I think fool ... liar... coward looking for an excuse to excuse their own complicity




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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:07 AM
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7. As I argued then, and do to this day,
If Bush was an idiot on September 10th, how did September 11th make him a genius?

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:09 AM
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8. LOL! Good one!!
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:16 AM
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10. Bush was an idiot on Sept 10, and he was an idiot on Sept 12.
The American people became idiots on Sept 11.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:05 AM
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5. And the bricks coming tumbling down.
Ever notice after WWII, how it was difficult to find anyone who had direct knowledge of a nazi or nazi collaborator?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:31 AM
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9. Ya, if you believed the narrative, the Nazis did it all by themselves
Never mind that IBM got to say after being recently investigated for aiding the Nazis in their genocide(paraphrasing)- "Statute of limitations has expired, suckers."
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FraDon Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:53 PM
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13. Those numbers tattooed on concentration camp arms ...
... were IBM tabulation card numbers. It was a lucrative contract.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:17 PM
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14. Yes, I know
And they weren't the only ones making a profit killing our soldiers. But we don't talk about those things- we talk about how heroic and even handed we were in our victory:sarcasm:, even as we ignored the role of some of the most powerful people in this country in making it all possible.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:20 PM
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16. My mom lived in Frankfurt during the war
and suffered greatly...there were a lot of German people who knew snippets of what was going on, but were intimidated to be able to get the whole picture. My mom did have some knowledge of major corporations (American like IBM and German like IG Farben) collaborating with the Nazi's in favor of their bottom line. She lost her home and her left leg because of the war. Was ill the rest of her life and died at 51.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:16 AM
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18. No one will know the tally of the fallen
And worse, no one will hold the people who slipped through the net responsible.

We are doomed to repeat the past.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:06 AM
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6. "whew"
And that, dear Lincoln, is why you were voted out! Whew, indeed.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:35 AM
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12. Nancy Pelosi is complicit in war crimes and should be voted out.
Vote Golub! She's on the table!

http://www.shirley08.com/



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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:18 AM
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11. This guy voted against the war and still got bounced in 2006.
Kind of a shame, but we needed the majority. He should have switched parties.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:21 PM
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15. gee, both parties are packed to the gills with morally corrupt political cowards
whoda thunk it?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:54 PM
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17. K & R!
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