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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:04 AM
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Robert Reich: The Great Pendulum of Economic Outrage Is About to Swing Again
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Published on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 by CommonDreams.org
The Great Pendulum of Economic Outrage Is About to Swing Again
by Robert B. Reich


The great pendulum of American economic outrage moves back and forth over time between anger at big government and anger at big business. For almost thirty years, big government has been the target — starting with Ronald Reagan’s admonition that government is the problem, not the solution; through Bill Clinton’s declaration that the era of big government is over; and George W. Bush’s hands-off brand of free market fundamentalism.

We deregulated much of the economy and pretty much allowed corporations to do what they wished. And for the first twenty years the result was largely good — a buoyant economy, a bullish stock market, a strong dollar.

But now we’re experiencing what happens when the pendulum swings too far and big business is given so much leeway that the public is harmed and the economy jeopardized. The corporate looting scandals that began with Enron were a wakeup call. Then came the practice of post-dating executive stock options. And more recently, an epidemic of unsafe products: drugs like Vioxx, tainted foods, Heparin and lead-painted toys imported from China.

We’ve had defense contractors that don’t deliver on their contracts, and insurance companies that won’t deliver on their promises. And just this past year, the subprime loan mess, a financial meltdown on Wall Street, out-of-control hedge funds and derivatives. Perhaps manipulation of oil futures markets.

The reality is that neither big government nor big business is the problem. Both are necessary parts of a modern economy. Problems arise when they’re out of balance — as they were by the 1970s, when government had grown so large it was stifling the economy, or as they have become this decade, as big business, including Wall Street, grew so irresponsible as to undermine public trust and threaten the economy.

Now the pendulum of outrage is swinging back against large corporations. America is heading toward another era of regulation. The real question is how smartly we go about it, and whether we can keep the pendulum from swinging too far.

Robert Reich is Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley. He has served in three national administrations, most recently as secretary of labor under President Bill Clinton. He has written ten books, including The Work of Nations, which has been translated into 22 languages; the best-sellers The Future of Success and Locked in the Cabinet, and his most recent book, Reason. His articles have appeared in the New Yorker, Atlantic Monthly, New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal. Mr. Reich is co-founding editor of The American Prospect magazine.


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/25/9866/

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:09 AM
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1. Reich is one of my absolute favorites.
Intelligence, insight, clear thinking, clear writing - a rare combination indeed.
:patriot:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:34 PM
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20. I don't think you'd have that opinion if you had a case up before NLRB
when he was in charge of it. Another corporate toady.

Of particular irony is that he was one of the major forces driving us into this clusterfuck.



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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:20 AM
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2. His 6/25/08 MarketPlace audio commentary echos this ...
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:23 AM
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3. First, You reach inside the wallets of Big Business and take back the taxpayer $ they stole....
... You cannot let corruption of this scale go unpunished... unless you are ready to see it all happen again.

There has never been such looting of the public treasury for the benefit of a few wealthy families and Big Business.

Want to make an impression? Pass a law that immediately releases all first time prisoners serving mandatory minimum prison sentences for possession of illicit drugs which did not involve violence. Now you have opened up a huge number of prison cells which will be readily available for those 'white collar' criminals. And don't send them to a minimum security prison .... put them in with the regular prison population.

Do you think those considering stealing and cheating the AMerican Taxpayers might reconsider?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:31 AM
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4. did Big Government really stifle the economy in the 1970s?
Wasn't it developing the internet back then? Given an economy that is built on waste and over-consumption of finite resources, is stifling really a bad thing anyway?

Interesting that Reich sorta admits the Clinton did not do much to change the Reagan trajectory. In fact, he piled on. Suddenly Reaganesque anti-government rhetoric was bi-partisan when before it might have been Goldwateresque extremism.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:37 AM
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5. I don't believe that for one moment
Government has indeed created a lot of red tape but I find it difficult to believe that stifled the economy. It might have made it much harder to pillage the National Treasury by Big business but certainly did not effect the average American in a detrimental manner..IMO
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:41 AM
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6. That part struck me as BS
Big business ALWAYS fucks things up. Refer to the past gilded age and the current one.

Big gov't CAN fuck things up, but ironically, the ones who do it the best are the Fascists- Big Business running the Gov't!

Strong, benevolent, LAWFUL government can keep people inside the lines and everything running smoothly.

Funny how many people fear the equal enforcement of laws.
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:37 PM
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7. Didn't we have horrible inflation from 1970-1980?
Wasn't stagflation of the 70s put a stake through the heart of writhing doll of the keynesian economics?

Keynes said: "In the long run we are all dead". Well, Keynes is dead and people were living in the long run he did not care about.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:57 PM
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8. Yes, but good luck explaining it to some people
There are some people who consider business inherently corrupt, just as righties consider unions a harbinger of communism. Neither side is really economically literate.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:36 PM
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12. It is a breach of fiduciary duty for a b-o-d to consider ANYTHING other than profitability
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 03:42 PM by Romulox
It is not "corrupt" in the least when corporations proceed on this basis, therefore. It is their duty under the law.

Corporations don't have friends; they don't have enemies. They are utterly amoral.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:23 PM
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9. the inflation wasn't really that horrible
one of the things it did was bring down the real price of oil. Reagan's answer was certainly no better than Keynes and really only worked as inverse Keynesian economics - deficit spending by cutting taxes instead of by increasing spending. It's not like the government was using Keynesian theory to try to deal with the stagflation. The FED was using monetarist theory by cranking up the interest rates and trying to "wring inflation out of the economy".
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:48 PM
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14. Sure. Deficit spending of the supply side variety is no better. n/t
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:30 PM
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11. Didn't the price of oil go up by 4x in the 70s? Might that have had something to do with...
stagflation?

I love how all the bad stuff is the government's fault; and business gets credit for all the good stuff.

Why do I keep hearing unregulated market apologists on DU?

arendt
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:47 PM
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13. Most likely it was the result of Nixon closing the gold window
With nothing to constrain federal reserve, the fresh money were pouring into economy rising prices of everything.



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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:10 PM
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15. Its nice that you can blithely make such assertions. You must be an economist. n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:21 PM
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17. He Is Something But It Isn't An Economist
Do a quick search and you will see.
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:38 AM
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28. I did a search. A Soviet man by that name died in 1990. Doesn't tell me about this guy. n/t
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:07 PM
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21. Okay. One of the reasons.
Gold standard, even in the pretty weak form of Bretton Wood agreement was holding inflation in check.
After link to gold was abandoned countries all over the world experienced severe inflation.

See for example this article from St.Louis Fed. Bank: "Controlling Inflation after Bretton Woods"
http://research.stlouisfed.org/wp/2000/2000-007.pdf

Sure. You can cite oil shocks, Vietnam war deficit spending as drivers putting pressure to print more money.

However, unless money supply is expanded you cannot get across the board price inflation. By paying more for oil, you have less to spend on other things, thus decreasing demand and lowering the price.



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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:17 PM
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22. Here is another paper from federalreserve.gov
The Great Inflation of the 1970

http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2004/799/ifdp799.htm

During the 1970s, the inflation rate in the US reached its 20-th century peak, with levels exceeding 10%. The causes of this ''great'' inflation remain the subject of considerable academic debate. Broadly speaking, the proposed explanations fall into two categories. Those that claim that the high inflation was due to the lack of proper incentives on the part of policymakers who chose to accept (or even induce) high inflation in order to prevent a recession (the inflation bias suggested by Barro and Gordon, 1982; see also Ireland, 1999). And those that claim that it may have been the result of the honest mistakes of a well-meaning central bank.


Conclusions

Inflation in the US reached high levels during the 1970s, to a large extent due to what proved to be excessively loose monetary policy.

----

Which is exactly my point. After severing the link to gold, amount of $$$ printed was completely at fed's discretion and they, for whatever reason, printed too much.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:17 PM
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25. They are everywhere - we have generations, now, raised on the idea that the "Free" Market
is the solution to all ills. The amazing thing is that anywhere and everywhere one looks at a "Free" market the result is disaster for workers, the environment, children, education, infrastructure, drinking water, waste disposal...anything you can think of. But somehow it never sinks in. The same old talking points...."balance", growth, "free trade," yada yada....never seems to occur to them that there is no "balance" between Fuedalism/Fascism/Oligarchy and Democracy; no "balance" between a living earth and a dead one, which is what the profiteering free-marketeers are creating....
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:43 PM
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27. Due to increases in oil prices n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:01 PM
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29. More to do with charging the Vietnam War than Keynesian Economics.
Bills do come due.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:27 PM
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10. no, but the free marketeers like to pretend it did,
knowing that most Amurkans are ignorant. That way, they can keep building the pie higher for themselves without ever addressing the root problem--capitalism.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:14 PM
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16. thank you,
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 05:14 PM by G_j
freedom of greed,

is not true democracy
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:28 PM
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18. "Began with Enron" huh? How short your memory, Mr Reich
It began with the S&L bailout. The entire 28 years has been nothing but one disaster for working people after another.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:34 PM
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19. It's sad, really.. Corporatists fear equlibrium more than anything
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 05:35 PM by SoCalDem
and equilibrium is the safest, most pleasant way to live. Upheaval and outrage are always the tools of radical change, and yet corporatists never seem to "get it".. They are like greedy children, always trying to steal more more more..until the public finally says..NO MORE...and then we start over..

But the racheting up and back, has real-life consequences for the real people affected by the greed and hubris.. Lives are ruined, people die, family wealth is diminished..Along with the "good" restorative laws, many "bad" ones get passed too.

The saddest part is that we never learn (as a society) from our mistakes, and we just keep repeating a version of past mistakes..over and over and over..
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:19 PM
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23. And, it happened without Ralph Nader. n/t
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:20 PM
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24. From now on I'll write off anything Robert Reich has to say.
I used to respect him, but with these words he proved himself a DLC Republican-lite tool:

Re Now the pendulum of outrage is swinging back against large corporations. The real question is how smartly we go about it, and whether we can keep the pendulum from swinging too far.

No asshole, the REAL question is why are you cautioning against "the pendulum swinging too far" before the fucking pendulum has even MOVED!!! I WISH the pendulum could swing "too far," but I'm not optimistic that it will ever swing far enough.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:42 PM
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26. "The first 20 years were good" For whom, might I ask? n/t
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