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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:22 PM
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Read this paragraph from a Pro-Lifer in my local paper..Personhood explained...
" ...the birth control pill doesn't always work. That when it fails to keep her from ovulating and she gets pregnant without knowing it, her newly conceived child is killed by not being allowed to implant in her uterus. ( That's by definition human pesticide-even if the Supreme Court allows it.) If that doesn't bother her (because she has bought the lie that personhood is a matter of personal opinion)"....She goes on and on from there. These are the wing nuts that collected enough signatures to get the Personhood issue on our election ballots this fall...my head is spinning in disbelief..they want to get rid of birth control pills now?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:25 PM
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1. "Human pesticide??" I thought Tom DeLay was "human pesticide."
Except for that "human" part.

I assume the writer meant "infanticide." Then again, maybe not.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:36 PM
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3. they could probably use the Monty Python song, "Every Sperm is Sacred"
DAD:
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

lyrics here:

Because...

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

GIRL:
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

MUM:
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

MEN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
WOMEN:
If a sperm is wasted,...
CHILDREN:
...God get quite irate.

PRIEST:
Every sperm is sacred.
BRIDE and GROOM:
Every sperm is good.
NANNIES:
Every sperm is needed...
CARDINALS:
...In your neighbourhood!

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
FUNERAL CORTEGE:
God needs everybody's.
MOURNER #1:
Mine!
MOURNER #2:
And mine!
CORPSE:
And mine!

NUN:
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
HOLY STATUES:
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

EVERYONE:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaaate!
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:56 PM
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6. I love it! I feel like putting the chorus on a sign and going down to their weekly protest
at Planned Parenthood! Every egg too!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:51 PM
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5. LOL!
You just made me laugh. :-)
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:00 PM
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12. lol...

That stood out to me too!
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AmyCamus Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:29 PM
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2. "they want to get rid of birth control pills now?"
Contraception has been against the law before, maybe they're hoping to bring back the good ol' days.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:42 PM
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4. The electric chair doesn't always work either

I am sure she is out picketing to abolish the death penalty.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:57 PM
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7. No kidding, and good point. I might use that line in my LTTE.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:57 PM
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8. Fundies and anti-choicers seem to believe conception occurs
when a man thinks of boobs.



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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:04 PM
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9. LOL!
Sadly, you're not too far off base with that!

:rofl:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:08 PM
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10. Some people...
Ugh.

Since it takes 2, every time I masturbate I am killing life, is that the message I am hearing? Oh, What, this is a religious issue and in religion(at least the big 3) women are incompetent and can not think for themselves. So men have to do it for them and tell them what to do.

This is all about Women, do not let the pro-lifers fool ya.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:54 PM
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15. Exactly.
This is all about controlling women.

Independent women frighten spineless men and their apologists so they use religion as a tool to repress them.



In the words of the late and great George Carlin:

"If you're pre-born you're fine, if you're pre-school you're fucked. Conservatives don't give a shit about you until you reach military age. ...Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers...They believe that a woman's primary role is to function as a brood mare for the state. You don't see many of these white anti-abortion women volunteering to have black fetuses transplanted into their uteruses do ya?! No. You don't see them adopting a whole lotta crack babies do ya?! No. That might be something Christ would do."

"Hey if they really want to get serious what about all of the sperm that are wasted when the state executes a condemned man and one of these pro-life guys that is watching comes in his pants...Not every ejaculation deserves a name."

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:02 PM
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16. Ha! that is grand, I love it!
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:07 PM by and-justice-for-all
George will be dearly missed.

Yes, control freak religious fascist do not like the notion of a Women making crucial decisions about her life. religion, for the most part, is SEXIST. Why did you have to go and eat that damn apple!? what were you thinking?! the fiction some people take literally is just insane.

Whats more, is the fact that those pro-lifers have NO CLUE about the circumstances as to why she is having an abortion. No wants to have to do so, no one wants drive up window abortion clinics, it is a last option next to having the potential child.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:35 PM
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11. Ban birth control pills? There's a racket for the mafia.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:17 PM
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13. There is no "now". With all due respect, that's been the plan all along.
The major anti-choice organizations in this country make no distinction between abortion and oral contraceptives.. the plan all along has been to outlaw all of it, and to overturn Griswold v. Connecticut along with Roe...

Ideally, what they'd like to do is make non-procreative fucking against the law.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:53 PM
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14. Anti-choice
is the term, not "pro-life". Don't let them frame it any other way in your rebuttal.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:28 PM
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17. You're right, thank you for the reminder
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:40 PM
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18. No prob,
that's what we're here for!:hi: Go get'em, and keep on fighting the good fight!
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:56 PM
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19. they've always wanted to get rid of birth control
to these people it is a crime and disgrace that any woman can be free, they hate women and they hate freedom, hence they hate anything that sets a woman free of nature's plan that we be nothing but a womb and a walking milk bottle


surely you've noticed this before now?


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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:16 PM
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20. Well, I just never saw them admit it until now...I mean our local, vocal group of
anti-choice people. I am hoping that this admission will open the eyes of people who might not be paying that much attention the the whole "personhood amendment."
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