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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:24 PM
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Did you know 'there wasn't a drop of oil' spilled in the Gulf during Cat 5 hurricanes?
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:24 PM by babylonsister
This is our 'media', on auto-pilot, I guess.


Mitchell did not challenge Burr's false assertion that "there wasn't a drop" of oil "that was spilled in the Gulf" due to Category 5 hurricanes

Summary: On MSNBC Live, responding to a comment by Andrea Mitchell about "the massive 1969 oil spill" in Santa Barbara, California, Sen. Richard Burr stated: "Well, Andrea, how technology has changed since 1969. It can take a Category 5 hurricane in the Gulf that really came twice, and the technology made sure that there wasn't a drop that was spilled in the Gulf." In fact, a report prepared for the U.S. Minerals Management Service stated that as a result of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita "124 spills were reported with a total volume of roughly 17,700 barrels of total petroleum products."

On the June 24 edition of MSNBC Live, NBC chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell failed to challenge Sen. Richard Burr's (R-NC) false assertion that "there wasn't a drop" of oil spilled in the Gulf of Mexico during "a Category 5 hurricane in the Gulf that really came twice." Mitchell noted that Sen. John McCain was promoting his energy proposals, which include lifting the federal moratorium on offshore drilling, in Santa Barbara, California, and said that "protestors won't let the senator forget about the massive 1969 oil spill that city suffered from a leak at the same type of offshore drills that John McCain is now supporting." Burr responded: "Well, Andrea, how technology has changed since 1969. It can take a Category 5 hurricane in the Gulf that really came twice, and the technology made sure that there wasn't a drop that was spilled in the Gulf." In fact, in the case of the two most recent Category 5 hurricanes, Katrina and Rita, according to a 2007 report prepared for the U.S. Minerals Management Service by the international consulting firm Det Norske Veritas, "124 spills were reported with a total volume of roughly 17,700 barrels of total petroleum products." The report further noted that "about 13,200 barrels were crude oil and condensate from platforms, rigs and pipelines, and 4,500 barrels were refined products from platforms and rigs."

more...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806250007?f=h_latest
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:30 PM
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1. but but but
I thought that was WHY the gas prices escalated after Katrina?
After all...you can only sell "summer blend" escalation for so long.
Where is CONgress? These fuckers are taking us for a ride at our own expense.:mad:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:35 PM
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2. Mrs. Green spam does not deal in facts. Why?
She is a Republicon.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:36 PM
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3. Prices went up
because the rigs were taken off line. Less supply. Damn, has anyone in this place taken an economics course?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:42 PM
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4. What's the current excuse for prices?
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:43 PM by babylonsister
Not that that's where the OP was even going, but please do share.

From Katrina:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_Hurricane_Katrina

The Environmental Protection Agency moved to reduce prices by temporarily lifting fuel standards in America until September 15. Some crude oil was also released from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, as well, to combat prices as major economic consequences were predicted if prices remained high for a long period of time — leading consumer spending to drop and causing many foreign economies, especially in Asia, to suffer. President Bush also temporarily waived the Jones Act, allowing foreign oil companies to ship oil between ports of the United States.

By September 7, Gulf oil production had returned to 42% of normal. Of 10 refineries that were shut down by Katrina, four were expected to be back at full capacity within a week, however another four could be out of commission for months.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:51 PM
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6. Supply, demand, and speculation. n/t
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:44 PM
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5. I also seem to remember a picture of a rig.
Blown through a bridge into a harbor in Miss. or Ala.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:53 PM
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7. I thought that was
a floating casino.:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:09 PM
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8. We HAVE recording devices and we KNOW how to use them...
REMINDER: Katrina oil spills may be among worst on record (113 offshore platforms destroyed)
Topic started by IanDB1 on Jun-19-08 09:51 AM (13 replies)
Last modified by underpants on Jun-19-08 03:10 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3482695



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:13 PM
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9. Please send that to KO
and ask him to forward to Mrs. Greenspan.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:14 PM
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10. The fish around the rigs
are incredibly high in mercury stirred up by the operation. Say goodbye to eating Florida seafood.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:22 PM
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13. Link please? Something else that needs to be shared. nt
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 10:22 PM by babylonsister
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:13 PM
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14. Here ya go for starters
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20060323/ai_n16164712



Oil rigs as sanctuaries is an idea that's all wet
Oakland Tribune, Mar 23, 2006 by Linda SHEEHAN
THE March 17 editorial, "Oil rigs as sanctuaries a slick idea," which promoted oil rigs as a safe harbor for marine wildlife, unfortunately missed the irony of its title.

The oil companies have been slickly promoting this misguided idea for years, funding their own studies and supporting bills that would allow them to slip out of their responsibility to clean up after themselves -- and leave the mess and costs for Californians to bear.

Independent scientific studies show the sea floor around oil rigs not surprisingly contains high levels of mercury, lead, and other toxins. Peer-reviewed studies in Alaska show that even minute concentrations of common hydrocarbons routinely released at offshore oil facilities are mutating the eggs of pink salmon.

<snip>

I read this the other day, can't remember where, but that eating just once weekly fish caught from around oil rigs resulted in mercury levels far above maximum amounts for safety. Google fish, mercury, "oil rigs"... there's tons of stuff. i'll try and find the article I read.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:25 PM
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15. More... not the article I read, but this is the gist of it.
http://www.al.com/specialreport/mobileregister/index.ssf?merc26.html


New Mercury concerns: Government to test Gulf fish


04/21/02

By BEN RAINES
Staff Reporter


<snip>

Recent Mobile Register hair tests of coastal residents who eat saltwater fish revealed that a surprising number had mercury levels from five to 10 times the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's safe level for the human body. The highest levels were found among recreational fishermen and their families.

<snip>

Drilling operations at the rigs have resulted in the dumping of tens of thousands and possibly hundreds of thousands of pounds of mercury into the Gulf.

Federal documents show that some fish and shrimp living near the rigs, which are prime recreational fishing destinations, have much higher mercury levels than creatures living elsewhere in the Gulf. Calculations by the Mobile Register indicate the contamination around some rigs is severe enough to warrant listing on the National Priorities List, a roll call of the nation's most polluted sites.


<snip>

Last year, the Mobile Register tested a number of other Gulf fish, including amberjack, grouper, cobia and redfish, and found they had higher mercury levels than the average level for king mackerel. Most of the fish tested by the paper were found to be so contaminated with mercury that U.S. Food and Drug Administration regulations would prohibit them from being sold to the public.

<snip>






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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:41 AM
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16. From 02. Hmmm. I don't doubt you, I don't know. nt
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:01 PM
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11. Not a drop of oil was spilled, and I AM THE VIRGIN MARY
the pieta was pretty flattering, let me tell you --

or maybe what they meant was that there were no spills of GRAPE SEED OIL, not that petroleum stuff
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:21 PM
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12. No! I'M THE VIRGIN MARY!
:crazy:
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