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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:28 AM
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Since the "Democrats" are ending the 4th Amendment, what are our countermeasures
...to keep our information as indecipherable, untappable, encrypted, as hard-to-trace as possible, from our "people's government?"
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:30 AM
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1. Well some patriots have always said what needs to happen for the Tree of Liberty
Being watered by the blood of martyrs.

Hate to think that may be the only way to stay free.
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RevolutionToday Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:14 AM
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5. Matyrs? HELL NO! People gotta see the world AS IT IS and fight for something WORTH LIVING FOR!
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 01:25 AM by RevolutionToday
The tree of liberty as it exists in the world marketplace, and in the minds of "patriots" is a deity that rules over us, that asks for undue sacrifice. We need to work together to deroot its ideology from our minds in order to advance into revolutionary democracy. Bob Marley said it best: so if you are the big tree, we are the small ax, ready to cut you down (well sharp), to cut you down.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:36 AM
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2. I think it all just depends on how much they want you.
I mean we're posting on system created by ARPA (DARPA's precursor) It's kind of like organizing with each other through state recording devices.

What do we do about the state----> (STATE)----------->Gosh, I don't know! Maybe we
That's a great idea! <-------------(STATE)<-----------should brainstorm!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:19 AM
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15. LOL
True enough. That's why I don't choose to worry about it. Angry about it, I am, but I'm not going to keep my mouth shut. I may rue that decision at some point. Who knows?
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:53 AM
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3. I've been buying guns
nt
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:16 AM
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6. so your guns have kept them from reading your email?
n/t
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:10 AM
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11. Probably not, but, to paraphrase Alaxander Solzenitzen
If we had sent a few More of them that came to get us home in body bags, they might have been less excited about coming to get us.


or,
to quote Emeliano Zapata, "Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees".
Any problem with that?


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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:20 AM
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7. With cash I hope
:thumbsup:
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:33 AM
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12. In California, cash dosen't help
But they still have big problems when they come for my guns.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:58 AM
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4. Keep your important communication with others "off the grid."
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 01:00 AM by Selatius
If you really want to do something to stop the government from snooping on your buying habits and your circle of friends, you keep communications off the grid. Talking face-to-face is harder to follow than is tapping a cellphone conversation. Likewise, someone reading your bank statement full of nothing but ATM withdrawals makes it difficult for the reader to find out what you are doing with your money. Of course, if you have liquid cash tucked away in a safe somewhere, then there wouldn't be a bank account to watch.

Usually, people who do this are individuals the government has a keen interest in following. I don't think I fall under that classification, unless I were a member of some domestic organization the government views as dangerous or am closely associated with individuals who are members of these organizations. If that were true, I wouldn't have bothered posting here for several years now.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:40 AM
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8. Treat any bug you find as a bug should be treated
Throw it on the floor and step on it.

Especially if it says Property of the US Government.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:42 AM
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9. It's the bugs we don't find that worry me...
n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:50 AM
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10. There's always the second amendment.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:15 PM
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16. And we can see how your being armed has kept the Bush administration completely at bay
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:38 AM
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13. The way these people move, it won't matter in the least
if they can read your email or listen to your phone calls.

80+ percent of the people at Gitmo were completely innocent of ANYTHING at all. They were bakers and photographers and tourists and shepherds and no one who should wind up in shackles.

They don't need your information to pick you up or harm you. If it comes right down to it, they'll just do it if they want to and make stuff up that can be typed on a piece of paper. :shrug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:16 AM
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14. PGP
Pretty Good Privacy
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