***Senate FISA Thread!?***

[ColbertWatcher]

Is this it?

Has no one started one this morning?

Lindsay Graham was making an ass out of himself, and now I see a QUORUM CALL....

Anyone know what's going on?

[Ian David]

1. They're probably trying to stall or delay the vote with unnecessary quorum calls? n/t

[bdamomma]

2. oh crap, C Span 3 has Addington and Yoo on

http://c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

conyers committee.

[ColbertWatcher]

4. There are already 2 threads that I can see, which CSPAN will repeat. n/t

[robinlynne]

3. I looked a few miutes ago and it was Boeing freaking out that they didn't get the airbus contract

calling for an investigation.. too funny. (not funny at all, but I couldn't believe my ears.)

[ColbertWatcher]

5. Maybe that's why those 2 guys got booted from the Air Force? n/t

[Breeze54]

6. C-Span saying Senate talking about FISA again... I have C-Span II on but he said C-Span III

Which is it?!? :shrug:

[bdamomma]

12. here you go breeze54

c span 2

http://c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[Breeze54]

13. Thanks Alyce! I only hear muzac!

:P

[ThomWV]

7. I've called Rockefeller's office twice and Byrd's once so far this morning

And just raised holy hell about immunity. I called Rockefeller everything but a loyal American - I was so god dam mad.

[ColbertWatcher]

8. A few others have suggested...

...we mail photocopies of checks made out to the Congress critter in question for a small amount on the condition they vote against FISA.

The important information is redacted, but the message should be clear: if you vote against FISA, you could possibly enjoy the kind of fundraising Obama is.

Some details still need work, but that's what this forum is for.

[eShirl]

9. cnn.com has senate floor on one of their live video feeds

click "Live Video" http://www.cnn.com/video/?iref=videoglobal

[Subdivisions]

10. Quorom call. Watching Senate on teevee, Yoo/Addington online (C-SPAN 3). n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

11. CSPAN will repeat Yoo/Addington plus, there are already 2 threads. n/t

[EFerrari]

14. Democrats are speaking as if in Morning Business as a way

to discourage interest in the hearing. Nothing to see here.

[Breeze54]

15. Go Dorgan!! Talk about health care!! WooHoo!!!

:woohoo: :applause: :applause:

[ColbertWatcher]

16. The GOP are hoping by dangling Yoo and Addington...

...in a hearing, no one will be watching them try to damage the 4th Amendment.

Fuck the GOP.

Every.

Last.

One.

Of.

Them.

[trashcanistanista]

17. Rockefella was on a little while ago

He looked a little shaken trying to justify how much better for civil liberties this new bill is. Pure BS. He was going on about how Americans overseas would have the same rights as Americans at home. He was stammering. It seems as if the phone calls have unnerved him, but he is still pushing his POS bill.

[trashcanistanista]

18. If I didn't know better, I would think that today is one big

fillibuster for every bill up. Ensign objected to oil cartel investigation debate to push his clean energy tax rebates, which has already blocked the housing bill and continues to do so, he is calling for Americans to call and write their Senators to get his bill passed, an Alaska Senator wanted to honor his mother-in-law who died and spoke about her to put into the record, Brown is up honoring some poet, Durbin is pushing the medical patch bill, there is no debate, no consistency and apparently no one there. Quorum call after quorum call. Either they are mass filibustering or voting and debating in another chamber to fool those of us who are watching. Kerry up now. Talking I hope about FISA. But still, no one there.

[ColbertWatcher]

21. I think you're right!

It seems the GOP will use the FISA bill to say the Dems don't want to protect Merka!

[trashcanistanista]

19. Nope, Kerry taliking about Zimbabwe and

Mugabe. Not a peep about FISA. Anyone have any clue as to what's going on in the Senate today? Are they revolting about Reid's threat to keep them over the holiday break by yammering on about everthing else except FISA?

[Breeze54]

20. They're stalling the FISA vote!! WooHoo!

:applause: :applause:

:D

[ColbertWatcher]

22. LOL!

When I saw him come on, I thought: "Oh great, this will take a while!"

LOL!

[karynnj]

40. It likely means they are working on FISA

behind the scenes. Kerry could have given a brilliant statement on FISA just by reading the statement he put out yesterday and the one in December. He is not on either committee that is fighting this battle with speeches. He made his position clear.

Speeches on other things are allowed when there is time. Just because Kerry, who is 100% on your side on FISA, is not speaking of FISA, I seriously doubt - though I admit to not hearing it - that he was yammering. He is one of the top SFRC people - and they do sometimes speak of other countries.

[ColbertWatcher]

23. Anybody else think Grassley came straight out of Green Acres?

He reminds me of the grocer...

[ColbertWatcher]

24. Warner-VA is saying the telecoms voluntarily spied.

WTF!?

[bdamomma]

25. I thought the Dems were trying to delay this.

[ColbertWatcher]

26. I did too.

But, just prior to Warner getting up and telling stories, several were discussing Alaska achieving statehood.

[bdamomma]

27. I hope they change the topic.

[ColbertWatcher]

28. Stabenow talked about how the GOP fillibusters everything...

...then called for another quorum call!

LOL!

[ColbertWatcher]

29. Sheldon Whitehouse is pointing out the nexus of terror & politics!

[ColbertWatcher]

30. Whitehouse concludes, another quorum call. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

Reid calls executive session. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

32. Leahy up talking about housing. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

31. Reid calls executive session. n/t

[Sydnie]

33. Leahy won't be heard

because he is making too much sense!

[ColbertWatcher]

34. Meh. It's in the record. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

35. LOL! Another roll call.

Apparently they're doing judicial nominees.

[ColbertWatcher]

36. Voting on 2 judicial confirmations. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

37. Reid up.

Voice vote for confirmation on two judicial nominees.

[ColbertWatcher]

38. LOL! Another quorum call! n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

39. Back to 30 mins more of "Morning Business" n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

41. Still on 'Morning Business' n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

42. Reid is back up 7:08 pm EST...

...motions, waivers, clotures...McConnel complaining about spending 60 minutes for debate...Reid says, STFU GBTW on the healthcare bill...

[spanone]

43. bwahahahaaa...thanks

[ColbertWatcher]

44. I just can't believe they're still at it, and...

...still not vote on the GOP's precious Spy On America Act!

LOL!

[spanone]

45. they are calling for cloture vote on fisa...where's the filibuster?

[spanone]

46. guess this could be it

[ColbertWatcher]

47. Reid says FISA bill vote early next week. n/t

[spanone]

48. good the thugs were trying to push it

[ColbertWatcher]

49. Now starting 60 minutes of debate for Medicare bill! n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

50. Reid's turn to talk...

...he pulls out the Dem's velcro "Republican Fillibuster" chart showing 79 fillibusters.

LOL!

Anyway, he is reminding everyone that the GOP is blocking the Medicare bill by refusing to vote on it.

He is also saying this will be the last chance to vote on it.

[trashcanistanista]

52. Thank you for watching - I had to walk away.

Oh god. I admire you sticking the session out. It just seemed like nothing got done and a hodge podge of things was brought up. I didn't mean to dis Kerry upthread. I love JK and know he is on our side. I just expected him to talk about FISA. I wasted my day waiting for FISA.

[ColbertWatcher]

54. YOU wasted your day!? LOL!

I've been watching hoping for something interesting.

So far, not much.

The FISA vote has been delayed, the GOP are currently being shamed into voting for the Medicare bill that would pay doctors for treating patients on Medicare...they are voting as I hunt and peck...

[ColbertWatcher]

51. Senate is now voting on Medicare bill. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

53. Votes coming in for HR 6331 (Medicare bill) 06-26-2008 apprx. 8:27pm EST...

...stand by...

[ColbertWatcher]

55. UPDATE: Apparently this is only a procedural vote. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

56. Reid votes no? n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

57. Final Tally...58-40 motion is not agreed to

motion to invoke cloture on HR 6331?

[ColbertWatcher]

58. McConnell is whining again. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

59. Reid just called Bush a "weak president" n/t

[defendandprotect]

77. Would any of us call a president at 23% .... "weak" . . . Come on Reid . . .!!!

[ColbertWatcher]

60. 6331 returned to the calendar? n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

61. Webb up to discuss vote on Supplemental bill n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

62. LOL! Senate is now debating Supplemental and GI Bill...n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

63. Webb started, Hutchison blathered...Coburn up now seemingly lucid...n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

64. Murray (WA) slaps Coburn around. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

65. Clerk calling the order on the motion...

...whatever the hell that means...

[ColbertWatcher]

66. 77-21 FINAL TALLY motion on Supplemental...06-26-2008 ~9:30 pm n/t

Supplemental Spending Bill
Senate is working on the domestic spending portion of the bill.

Funding for Iraq/Afghanistan wars already approved.


Voting to waive the Budget Act.


Motion to waive the Budget Act.
Temporarily sets aside a specific part of the Budget Act.


Without a waiver, a point of order could cause a provision in the bill to fail.

With a waiver, the provision may remain even though it violates the Budget Act.

The motion is debatable, In most cases, a 3/5 vote (60) is required for adoption.

The motion is agreed to.

[ColbertWatcher]

67. Supplemental will provide...

$21 Billion:

* expanding for GI Bill
* extending educational benefits
* $2.7 billion for disaster aid
* $10 billion for foreign aid

[ColbertWatcher]

68. Holy shit! Nelson (FL) wants to vote on another freakin' bill!

LOL!

Mikowsky (Alaska?) wants to vote on something else...Boxer is calling her out!

LOL!

Almost 10pm!

Landrieu talking about Supplemental...

[ColbertWatcher]

69. Landrieu threatening to block every other vote/motion/etc...

...until Louisiana gets a better plan to fix their levies.

[ColbertWatcher]

70. 10:30pm EST QUORUM CALL! n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

71. UPDATE Supplemental Spending Bill did pass, Dodd is up...

...he is giving us his view of where the Senate is regarding the Housing bill...

[ColbertWatcher]

72. Dodd is saying for every day the Senate is not in session

8-9,000 families may lose their homes.

[ColbertWatcher]

73. Dodd is entering another bunch of bills! LOL! n/t

[libnnc]

74. thanks for this ...

I'll tune in after Kathy Griffin is over

Nothing trumps my D-List tramp :P

[ColbertWatcher]

76. It's done. Adjourned until tomorrow. n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

75. It is now 10:58pm EST, Senate is now adjourned until tomorrow. n/t