Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Yoo Won’t Answer Whether President Can Bury Detainees Alive»

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:43 AM
Original message
Yoo Won’t Answer Whether President Can Bury Detainees Alive»
Aye yai yai...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/26/yoo-burry-alive/


Yoo Won’t Answer Whether President Can Bury Detainees Alive»

Today, the authors of the Bush administration’s torture policies, David Addington and John Yoo, are testifying before the House Judiciary Committee. Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) asked Yoo whether the president could bury a detainee alive, Yoo stonewalled and ultimately refused to answer the question. He also refused to say if there was any torture tactic the president was prohibited from using. Transcript via Muckracker:

CONYERS: Could the President order a suspect buried alive?

YOO: Uh, Mr. Chairman, I don’t think I’ve ever given advice that the President could order someone buried alive…

CONYERS: I didn’t ask you if you ever gave him advice. I asked you thought the President could order a suspect buried alive.

YOO: Well Chairman, my view right now is that I don’t think a President — no American President would ever have to order that or feel it necessary to order that.

CONYERS: I think we understand the games that are being played.

Watch it at link~

Conyers grew visibly frustrated with Yoo’s stalling techniques. “We’ve all practiced law,” he said with exasperation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
1. Yoo, Ma'am, Deserve To Stand In the Dock Of the Hague....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #1
7. That's far better treatment than he himself grants others.
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 11:02 AM by TahitiNut
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. I heard that a Canadian judge said that the way a Canadian citizen
was treated at Gitmo violates international law. It was in Amy's "headlines".

Canadian Judge: U.S. Treatment of Khadr Amounts to Torture

Meanwhile a Canadian judge has issued a harsh rebuke of the U.S. imprisonment of the Canadian prisoner Omar Khadr. On Wednesday, federal court judge Richard Mosley said Khadr’s treatement has violated international laws against torture. Mosley cited a document detailing a technique used against Kadr during his interrogation. Mosley did not reveal the technique but said it should be publicly exposed. Khadr was fifteen years old when he was arrested by U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. He will,
he, right along with a quite a few other cohorts. I'm only sixty years old and I think I have enough years in me that will allow me to be a witness to this trial of trials. Once this ball starts rolling there will be no turning it back nor stopping it and once it starts in earnest it will go very fast. This is a criminal crew who has used the standing in the world that the united states had to invade and now occupy a sovereign nation and in the process destroy it and kill over a million people. More war crimes trials than they will ever have time to try so at some point it will become mute. Lots of misery are in store for this cabal.
That I truly believe
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. Yoo, Addington and many others will get pardons from Bush
but those pardons have no effect in the international community. They're best bet is to never travel overseas after January.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. Before its all said and done
the US will be forced to turn these war criminals over and our government will comply. This is very serious, a lot bigger than us along, this is on the world stage here. Bushco is not going to walk away from this as free men and women.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #15
28. I truly believe if we do not hold them for their crimes someone
else will, or there are people behind the scenes who will arrest them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #28
33. Me too Alyce, as I keep saying it is proof of that
the crimes commited by this crew is too much to ever see them just walking away as free people. Their day is coming and coming soon. I'm going to be one of those glued to the teevee watching the trials too and I'm sure they will be televised to the whole world too, in real time right then and there as a lesson in the make for what one can not do and expect to get away with it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. Point of info, Mag -- why did you call Yoo "Ma'am"?
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 12:09 PM by HamdenRice
You usually use the honorific "Sir" for guys. Or were you referring to the poster (in which case it's a conjugation thing: Yoo, Ma'am, deserves...")?

Or is it a pun referring to both that I'm not getting?

I'm curious/confused.

Anyway, regards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Slipped An 'S', Sir, On the End Of What Ought To Be 'Deserves'....
My apologies for the confusion: my typing is no better than my handwriting....

"No fool like an old fool."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. A very dramatic moment, indeed. Yoo is a war criminal. He should be arrested immediately. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:53 AM
Response to Original message
3. Ahahahahaha. Hahahaha. Hahahaha.
He knows the answer is 'yes' according to his model of the Executive; if he says 'no,' then he has to explain where the not-okay cutoff is, and that's not a discussion he wants to have. But if he says 'yes,' then he has just admitted that he thinks the President can bury people alive on a whim, and that's not exactly an admission to make before Congress.

What a great exchange.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #3
14. Indeed, Sir: The Silence Confesses Both Legal And Moral Bankruptcy Eloquently
"You might say that: I could not possibly comment."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. That is what Bugliosi kept saying last night about these people.
NO morality what so ever.
He kept referring to Bush as "the little man."
I think he met "little" in more ways than one.

BHN
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. It Does Have Many Meanings, Ma'am, That Is True
In Confucian usage, it indicates men absolutely unfit to rule others....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #21
29. Bugliosi is right, he (* ) is a little man
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 09:40 AM by alyce douglas
so why can't anyone rein this SOB in?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
4. no words
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:58 AM
Response to Original message
5.  Mr. Conyers is allowing the Constitution to be buried alive. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #5
30. yea, and with the exception of those 15 Senators who did vote NO
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 09:42 AM by alyce douglas
for cloture and the rest of those senators are burying alive the Constitution.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:01 AM
Response to Original message
6. But he's already said The pResident can crush the testicles of a detainee's child. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #6
31. if this SOB can go into a country on lies and kills millions of people
and our soldiers he wouldn't think twice of burying someone alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
8. I heard part of the exchange this morning on my way to work
God DAMN these bastards!

Conyers was very good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:17 AM
Response to Original message
12. Phuc Yoo
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 11:19 AM by DinahMoeHum
and his ancestors.

Let's just say that if Yoo, Addington, Rumsfeld, etc. show a hair of their assholes anywhere outside the US, they're FAIR GAME.

:evilfrown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
13. The fact that Yoo is nervous about this question tells me that it's been done
Yoo takes the stand that the "Commander in Chief" has unlimited power, but when it comes down to the brass tacks, he and the others would prefer to do it without public scrutiny.

Very telling on how legal he really thinks this is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
17. If Conyers cant get a straight answer from Yoo,,,,,
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 12:23 PM by sheeptramp
would it be okay for Congress to strip Yoo naked, put him in a cold room, deprive him of sleep for 5 or 6 days, cover him with his own feces, put a leash on his neck, and a bag on his head, and hang him up in "stress position"?

Clearly conventional questioning is not working. Maybe enhanced interrogation will get some answers out of Mr.Yoo


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. I say we bury him alive.
:hide:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. I second that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. Make it a REALLY big hole- there are plenty who should join him in that hole.
Kinda Sleezy, Richard Armitage, Paul Wolfowitz, George Schultz,
Richard Perle, Joshua Bolton, Karl Rove, hell... we need a REALLY big hole
cause the list just goes on and on.

BHN:mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #18
32. waterboarding too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #18
35. or at the very least waterboard him.
What? He said that waterboarding was fine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. That should be put to Yoo by Conyers as a question...
...so how quickly that pudgy armchair warrior blanches at THAT thought...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. Yes. According to War Criminal Yoo's own opinion
None of that is defined as torture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
25. That clip is worth watching. More than troubling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:22 AM
Response to Original message
27. This is what they learned from their Watergate mistakes. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:21 AM
Response to Original message
34. I love Conyers. Shout out to Representative Conyers!
I wish my representative was more like Conyers. Yeah, I'm talking about you, Representative Price.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC