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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 02:15 AM
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An interesting article on the year 2012.
My mom forwarded this link to me. It's an article which talks about the year 2012.

From Universe Today:

No Doomsday in 2012
Written by Ian O'Neill

Apparently, the world is going to end on December 21st, 2012. Yes, you read correctly, in some way, shape or form, the Earth (or at least a large portion of humans on the planet) will cease to exist. Stop planning your careers, don't bother buying a house, and be sure to spend the last years of your life doing something you always wanted to do but never had the time. Now you have the time, four years of time, to enjoy yourselves before… the end.

So what is all this crazy talk? We've all heard these doomsday predictions before, we're still here, and the planet is still here, why is 2012 so important? Well, the Mayan calendar stops at the end of the year 2012, churning up all sorts of religious, scientific, astrological and historic reasons why this calendar foretells the end of life as we know it. The Mayan Prophecy is gaining strength and appears to be worrying people in all areas of society. Forget Nostradamus, forget the Y2K bug, forget the credit crunch, this event is predicted to be huge and many wholeheartedly believe this is going to happen for real. Planet X could even be making a comeback.


More here.

The article makes sense, but I still remain skeptical.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:29 AM
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1. "Mayan spokespersons were unavailable for comment"
:rofl:
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:54 AM
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2. "...after THIER world came to an end in the 1600's"
courtesy of the fucking spanish!

I would point out, that what they are talking about is actually a insanely complex series of wheels and gears, which the Myan calendar is based on. 2012 is the end of the revolution for unique combinations, and the whole things starts over again... for the THIRD TIME!
The Myans were amazing, brilliant, but seriously this has nothing to do with anything.
Everyone was CONVINCED that the rapture was gonna happen.. ANY DAY... while Jesus was live!
Everyone was CONVINCED that the WORLD WILL END@!!!!!... in the year 999, and 1999, and it will again in 2999.
Honestly whats the point, if we're going to die, we die. personally I thin kit's all crap! (the fear mongering) so no one TRIES to do anything about fixing the environment, and run up MASSIVE credit card debt...which the CC companies will feed on like the fucking vultures they are!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 06:05 AM
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3. "This article makes sense" Really?
Only if you buy into about 17 different assumptions, unsupported by any evidence whatsoever, does this make any sense. Seriously dude, I have seen at least two of these per year, EVERY year, claiming imminent doom, often predicted by ancient peoples, ever since the days of Erik von Daniken (sp?). It's nonsense. It's the equivalent of traveling gypsy stories, designed to get the rubes to give money. Apply the scientific method and don't jump at shadows.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 07:10 AM
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5. Yes, it does.
It continous as follows:

"For all those 2012 Mayan Prophecy believers out there, I have bad news. There is going to be no doomsday event in 2012, and here's why…"

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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 06:09 AM
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4. Will retailers push for an early Christmas season in order to make up for the early human departure?
Maybe perhaps start the holiday shopping season in say, September that year?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:16 AM
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6. Mayan Daykeepers are available for comment
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 08:20 AM by SpiralHawk
They just have to be approached with respect...and they have to trust that what they share will not be distorted or exploited, as is so often the case.

Here's one direct source -

Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez of Guatemala:

"When I interviewed Don Alejandro for my book “Legend of the Rainbow Warriors,” he told me that indigenous cultures around the world hold in their oral traditions an understanding that civilizations have risen on Earth many times in the past, and then fallen. He said that these civilizations fell apart primarily because they developed and employed technology without wisdom or respect for nature; then the natural world became profoundly unbalanced. “Once again,” he said, “we are in a period of time when technology dominates life and is generally being applied without wisdom.”

“Big changes are coming in this frame of time,” Don Alejandro told me. “All the elders know that. That’s why it’s important to talk now and to remind people to respect Mother Earth, and to stop destroying the water, air, and mountains…We are in times of big change for the Earth, big earthquakes and hurricanes and also big conflicts in politics and war. Politicians promise changes, but we know that at their big meetings, done in the name of making things better, they do not make changes that work. It’s the same old thing. The people must make the changes themselves.”

http://www.chiron-communications.com/communique%209-7.html

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:50 AM
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7. Selfless of the Mayans not to equate their own demise with doomsday. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:08 AM
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8. They ain't demised. Yet.
The Maya are just fine. No doubt they would be doing better if repressive heirarchial materialist governments would stop murdering and harassing them.

When the Condor flies with the Eagle, big changes will come. The joining of the Condor (South America) with the Eagle (North America) will be formalized and sacralized by the Quetzal (Central America).
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:04 AM
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9. Reminds me of the year 2000
When our computers couldn't handle the change to the new century.

The Mayan calendar runs out in 2012. This shows their calendar inventors had better foresight than our computer programmers did in the early days of computer development.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 02:39 PM
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10. that is what bushco and faux xtains want - they want the rapture
so they have been causing havoc everywhere in hopes of getting everyone killed
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