Should the Gays ban the Irish from this weekend's parade.

[edhopper]

It's the Gay Pride Parade in New York this weekend. Should the Gays tell anyone who is Irish, or lives the Irish lifestyle that are not welcome?

[gaspee]

1. Ah...

But what if we're gay *and* Irish?

I can't help it, I was born that way!

(erm... Irish, that is...)

[Spouting Horn]

16. Sure why not!

It's their parade!

[gateley]

2. I'm sure you're making a point with this, but it's lost on me. nt

[edhopper]

6. Gays are banned

from the St. Patrick's Day Parade.

[gateley]

8. I'm Irish and that really upsets me - I didn't know that.

:(

[pnwmom]

15. I'm Irish with a gay father and it's never bothered either of us.

Gay people are free to carry signs about their ethnicity in gay pride parades if they want to. More power to them.

But if the people running St. Patrick's day celebrations want to keep the focus on being Irish -- no matter what your sexual orientation is -- then what's wrong with that?

[gateley]

31. Okay - well put that way I see your point. nt

[Spouting Horn]

17. On edit

question answered in previous post.

[dsc]

7. gays have been banned from the St Paddy's day parade in NY

for about a decade or so.

[gateley]

9. That is so wrong!

WHO makes that decision?

[dsc]

12. It is run by a private group

called the Brothers of Hibernicus or something like that. The case went to SCOTUS and they won so no gays in the parade.

[mitchtv]

19. Ancient Order of Hibernians

Is the group. My HS used to march. Last time I marched was with the Gay Irish contingent in the Queens Pride in Jackson Heights

[pnwmom]

13. Not exactly. Any gay person can go, but they go as an Irish person,

not as a specific sexual orientation.

The parade is about ethnicity, not whether you're straight or gay.

[dsc]

25. sure

and I bet they don't wear wedding rings or hold hands either. That doesn't even pass the smell test.

[pnwmom]

28. My father wouldn't have hesitated to do either. He just

didn't carry a sign.

[dsc]

29. or a shirt, or hold hands with his partner etc

please, we know what they won't let gays do.

[pnwmom]

30. Who says he wouldn't have held hands? I think he probably did. n/t

[terrya]

3. Yes

We don't want THEIR kind in our festive, delightful parade.

Oh, :sarcasm:

[meegbear]

4. Are you perhaps referring to this? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

A gay rights group in New York will protest at the traditional St Patrick's Day Parade today.

The group, Irish Queers, plans to disrupt the parade, which excludes members of the LGBT community on the grounds that it is a religious event.

"We're sick of hearing city officials say they can't intercede in the homophobia because it's a religious march," said Tierney Gleason of Irish Queers.

"If it's a religious anti-gay parade, and uniformed cops and firefighters have to be pulled out.

"It can't be both privately religious and publicly Irish."

Today's St Patrick's Day parade will be the 247th in the New York's history.

The parade is organised by the Ancient Order of Hibernians, an Irish-Catholic fraternal organisation.

In 1991 it was legally redefined by the NYC Parade Committee, meaning that organisers could ban gay groups.

<snip>

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7148.html

Inquiring minds want to know.

[ColbertWatcher]

5. Hahahaha!

That's funny!

They should boycott the pubs for the day.

Oh and wear orange, no green.

[Bluebear]

10. "or lives the Irish lifestyle" LMAO!

[ieoeja]

11. Actually, they should all wear "Kiss me, I'm Irish" T-shirts in the parade. n/t

[pnwmom]

14. The Irish don't ban gay people, just signs not having to do with being Irish.

They don't want signs carried about sexual orientation, which would make the parade about sexual orientation, rather than a celebration of being Irish.

I'm the daughter of an Irish and gay father. If gay people think it's important to march as gay AND Irish -- at the same time -- then why don't they do that in the gay parades? People could carry signs saying "Irish and gay" "German and gay" or whatever.

[Bluebear]

18. I see from another parade line-up there are Irish Firefighters...

Irish vets, etc... you could make the same argument that those groups should march in firefighter or veterans parades. Just sayin'.

[FreeState]

22. They do

I have seen many many signs of "Gay and Irish" at gay Pride parades. (Among everyother imaginable combination).

Have you ever been to the Parade in NYC? I have - and there were a LOT of obviously heterosexual content allowed in the parade. Its not about Sexual Orientation its about GLBT - they dont want gays visible in the parade but straights are allowed along with their PDA's as they march.

[yardwork]

24. Why can't people participate in the St. Patrick's Day parade as Irish and Gay?

Why is it ok to be an Irish Firefighter or an Irish Bricklayer in the St. Patrick's Day Parade, but not ok to be an Irish Lesbian?

[mitchtv]

32. THEY DO

I've marched with the Gay Irish in Queens Pride some years back. There's all sorts of contingents. futhermore such a contingrnt would not be welcome on fifth avenue

[RagingInMiami]

20. I think the gays should dress as leprechauns

and crash the Irish parade.

[slackmaster]

21. Weren't "Ye Wee Prancing Faeries of Balmoral" banned from the St. Patrick's Day parade?

I think turnabout is fair play.

:sarcasm:

[pollo poco]

23. But there is good news from Ireland

A new civil union law is moving through the system. It will (among other things) make it possible for us Irish in the US to return to Ireland with full spousal status for our same sex partners.

This is good news for all of us who want to go home, but won't leave our wonderful American partners behind.

It makes me so happy. By this time next year, the new laws are expected to be in effect.


:toast: :bounce::bounce: :toast:


Love these custom Irish smilies.

[devilgrrl]

26. Only if the banning involves Andrew Sullivan

:silly:

[Clark2008]

27. Are the Irish even planning to participate?