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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 02:51 PM
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Michelle Obama Quote I Heard today on the Radio
"we need to make this country as it should be."

Now here is the problem with that statement from a political vantage point.

It will allow some (maybe quite a few) to question who gets the right to define what should be means??

To my way of thinking making this country what it should be includes dealing with or having a meeting of the minds (as much as is possible, or at least making a transparent good faith effort to do so) with those who may not completly see things the way we do. If we fail to do so then we simply set in motion more anger and discontent from a significant portion of the population who feel that rules/laws that they find offensive are being shoved down their throat.

How have felt concerning this situation in regards to the last 7 plus years??

Do we want to replicate the same action?

Then we get lumped into the stereotype as know everything liberals/progressives who preach down to the unwashed masses, who are required to acquiesce to what we decide our nation should be, shut up and allow us oh so intelligent ones to lead. :sarcasm:

This is the thing that I have observed about a portion of liberals/progressives for years.

The fact that some come across as believing they are smarter than you or any one else for that matter and there fore are incapable of making a mistake.

It is our arrogance that will bring us down after we win in November, a little humility can and should go a long way.

If we charge the GOP with being arrogant and then fail to see to our own conduct in the same light when it occurs or worse yet excuse because it us doing it and there fore the conduct is okay (think refusing to use public funding after years of screaming about it) then we are both guilty of being blind and being a hypocrite

Now Michelle Obama may very well be on solid ground but her comment made in context of advocating the repeal of the DOMA but it can also be interpreted as arrogant contempt of any who may hold a counter view, since it is she and fellow progressives who get to decide what this country should be.

I can certainly understand people who could see the comment that way taken in the complete tenor of the way and substance of how she made it.

Does she mean that anyone who may have qualms about what way the country might go does not count??

Or does it mean that since it is us now in charge we can do all that we desire since after all we are on the side of goodness and righteousness??

Flame away if you desire.

But you see I am old enough to understand that not everyone is right and not everyone is wrong.

I want believe that Barack wants to reach out to all (even though a large community here at DU consider that to be sacrilege) IMHO comments like these do not help.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:02 PM
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1. I think you're reading too much into this. nt
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:06 PM
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2. It would be interesting to know what she believes that
America "should be".
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:17 PM
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3. I would guess
the same as you do.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:30 AM
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7. I applaud Michelle Obama for this statement....it gets Americans
thinking about what we really want. She is not imposing her ideas. This statement of hers initiates discussion and insight into the desires of the country. The Obama campaign is listening. It's a novel idea considering not many in power seem to be listening.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:20 PM
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4. Its good to have this discussion
republicans knew the path would lead this way. But do not follow because its the first path.

Look at the death and destruction of the path before following.

We have a choice between good and evil, and evil is always a step ahead.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:46 PM
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5. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this sentence:
"Now Michelle Obama may very well be on solid ground but her comment made in context of advocating the repeal of the DOMA but it can also be interpreted as arrogant contempt of any who may hold a counter view, since it is she and fellow progressives who get to decide what this country should be."

but her comment made in context of advocating the repeal of the DOMA -- (this scans OK, with a comma clarifying the structure, however it does not lead into the following)

but it can also be interpreted as arrogant contempt of any who may hold a counter view, (too many "buts" - it only makes sense if you cut the "but it", leaving it to read:

"but her comment, made in context of advocating the repeal of the DOMA, can also be interpreted as arrogant contempt..."

If that is what you were saying, how is it arrogant to repeal legislation which restricts the rights of American citizens? Is such legislation representative of what we, as Democrats, believe? DOMA does not force anyone to do something they are not inclined to do - but it does restrict the rights of others. OTOH, repealing DOMA doesn't force anyone to do something they are not inclined to do, while it allows a discriminated against population the rights that straight citizens have.

Is it contemptuous to say "If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay"?

I think that not pandering to bigots helps make this country what it should be.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:50 PM
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6. ...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:34 AM
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8. So by your post it is apparent you have not listened to anything Obama has said
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 08:35 AM by Bandit
over the last twenty months. His whole message and platform is bringing all Americans together and to the table..You seem to have missed that entirely..
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