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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:21 PM
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Digby & Jane Hamsher urge you: Unhappy about Obama's stand on FISA?let him know on his website!
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 09:24 PM by KoKo01
Here's the Scoop:

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Throwdown

by digby


Glenn Greenwald and Keith Olbermann have gotten into a dustup over the FISA legislation in which John Dean seems to be the arbiter. (Isn't the blogosphere grand?)

Anyway, everyone can have their own opinion about the merits, and whether or not Keith or Glenn are taking the right tack in terms of Obama's agreement to support the compromise. Unsurprisingly, I favor Greenwald's argument on this. I just don't think it's really necessary to support this compromise in order to win this election and I think that at the very least we should have these programs examined by a new Justice department before anybody makes any more laws on the subject. It's entirely possible that an Obama administration will simply reinstate them --- the willingness to support this compromise suggests that it will. And I wouldn't support that under any circumstances. But the idea that it has to be done in order to win the election I think is wrong. You can appeal to swing voters in some other way than trashing the constitution. (Here's a novel idea. How about making a better argument?)

-snip-

Obama has opened up some avenues for his supporters to talk directly to him. From Jane Hamsher:

It's also interesting to note that the tools created to help organize Obama supporters against his opponents are now being used to organize themselves to communicate with him. There's a new group on "MyBarackObama.com" called "Senator Obama -- Please Vote Against FISA."

Stop by and tell the Senator that you'll be voting for him in November and hoping that in the meantime, he does the right thing.



It's unlikely to make a difference in this vote, of course, but it's necessary to go on the record and keep talking about these things if you want them to change. If we can change the political zeitgeist, someday conservatives will be the ones having to risk offending their base for a change.

more..at
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/throwdown-by-digby-glenn-greenwald-and.html


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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:27 PM
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1. Link to Obama group
http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/SenatorObama-PleaseVoteAgainstFISA

If you don't already have an account at Obama's website, it takes about a minute to setup.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:39 PM
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2. Thanks for the link
I signed up, but when I tried to join this group, I got a message that some parts of the site were down for maintenance.

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:41 PM
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3. Oh sure. Maintenance. (n/t)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:48 PM
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4. Don't enourage me to think that way
n/t
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:32 PM
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5. Just tried again - it's working now
n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 09:57 AM
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8. There are over 1400 members now of the group working to get Obama to reconsider FISA
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 09:59 AM by John Q. Citizen
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 12:47 AM
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6. thanks for the link; I posted my comments stating "no Backbone, no cash". n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 07:43 AM
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7. I told them that MY money went to Act Blue this month...
to help fight the FISA bill.

COULD have gone to him....
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:38 PM
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12. Mine is going to the ACLU
n/t
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 10:43 AM
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9. Why did Obama change his stance from upholding the constitution
over fear mongering to the new stance that giving up our fouth ammendment rights were a fair trade for some of the new tools?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 07:46 PM
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10. We assume it was to bring in the "Independents" and "wavering Repugs..."
what else could it be?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:09 PM
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11. I already gave him a piece of my mind through "Contact Us" at mybarackobama.com
and said my former enthusiasm and financial support had pretty much died of apathy. He's apparently not the brilliant "constitutional scholar" he's supposed to be. I'll vote for him because he's better than McCain, and I always vote for the D, but that's about all, now. I'm just not that gung-ho anymore.
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