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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:58 PM
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McCain calls Carter a 'lousy president'
But in an interview with the Las Vegas Sun published Friday, McCain was decidedly more blunt than he has been in the past. McCain, who is a proponent of nuclear reprocessing, was asked why he thought Carter was against the process when he was president.

"Yes, because Carter was a lousy president," McCain quipped. "This is the same guy who kissed Brezhnev."

McCain's comments are in reference to the now famous moment when Carter and then Soviet Union leader Leonid Brezhnev kissed after signing the SALT II treaty in 1979. Both the agreement and the kiss were widely panned by Republicans.

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

What an asshole!
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:59 PM
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1. But this is the guy that hugged Bush!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:05 PM
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3. Yeah , I wonder what his opinion of Bush would be - if the media was brave enough to ask
I'm sure the answer would be hilarious.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:02 PM
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2. Bush II was way worse. At least Carter had some fucking vision.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:12 PM
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5. A two step process.
One: Compare Sen. Obama with Pres. Carter. Two: Proclaim that Pres. Carter was a lousy Pres.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:31 PM
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8. Here's a later speech (1979) by Carter, that covers much of the same ground:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:09 PM
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4. Whereas ** stared longingly into Pooty-poot's eyes??
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:20 PM
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6. And McCain's A Lousy Senator, Husband And Person
who will never be President.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:29 PM
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7. Carter was against nuclear reprocessing because he understood the dangers
Remember, Carter prepared to serve on a nuclear submarine:

Carter completed an introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953. This followed Carter's first-hand experience as part of a group of American and Canadian servicemen who took part in cleaning up after a nuclear meltdown at Canada's Chalk River Laboratories reactor.


And McCain may resent Carter because Carter was a more successful Naval officer than McCain:

He attended Georgia Tech and Georgia Southwestern State University before receiving an appointment to the United States Naval Academy where he received a Bachelor of Science degree in 1946 and is the only graduate of the Naval Academy to become President.<9> Carter finished 59th out of his Academy class of 820. Carter served on surface ships and diesel submarines in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets. As a junior officer, he completed qualification for command of a diesel submarine.

He applied for the U.S. Navy's fledgling nuclear submarine program run by Captain (later Admiral) Hyman G. Rickover.<snip>

Carter has said that he loved the Navy, and had planned to make it his career. His ultimate goal was to become Chief of Naval Operations.<snip>

Upon the death of his father in July 1953, however, Lieutenant Carter immediately resigned his commission and was discharged from the Navy on October 9, 1953. This cut short his nuclear power training school, and he was never able to serve on a nuclear submarine, as the first of the fleet was launched January 17, 1955, over a year after his discharge from the Navy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_carter#Naval_career
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:36 AM
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15. mccain USNA class ranking - 894 out of 899
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:32 PM
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9. Carter got something done
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 11:35 PM by DiktatrW
in four years the pukes have never done in over twenty, a lasting peace treaty in the middle east.

Carter was a lousy president for showing how lousy the Regan-Bush-Clinton-Bush presidencies were at getting Lieberman's ilk to do the right thing.


edit: sp
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:59 PM
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10. But Dubya can slip the Saudi king the tongue!!!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 12:17 AM
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11. I agree. Carter was a lousy president.
He was still a better president than Ford, Reagan or either Bush. Especially the present Bush.

However, Carter is not on the ballot and Senator McCain wants to continue the policies of the present Bush, the worst president, if president he is, of all time.

I am voting for Obama. He's no Jimmy Carter, either, and certainly has no desire to be George W. Bush.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 07:52 AM
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12. It was called Three Mile Island, you ignorant twit!
It was also called LEADERSHIP!

"By Saturday, March 31, Carter had decided to pay a personal visit to Harrisburg. The national and international media had given the accident at Three Mile Island front page attention for days and venerable network newsman Walter Cronkite was speaking of a "horror" that "could get much worse." Carter believed that the people of Pennsylvania and the nation were looking to him for leadership, so on April 1, Carter inspected the damaged plant. Middletown, Pennsylvania, Mayor Robert Reid later spoke of Carter's visit as providing a much-needed morale boost. "People weren't talking to one another. They were cooped up in their homes, and when he came, it seemed like everyone came out to see the president and it was really a shot in the arm," Reid recounted to writer Mark Stephens."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/three/peopleevents/pandeAMEX86.html


I'll take a lousy Carter redux over a LAZY Bush III any day!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 07:55 AM
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13. rather kiss a commie than hug a bu$h*
moe signs of dementia
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:02 AM
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14. Ya Meaning Getting Upclose Like This??


Yep...damn Carter for wanting to turn the world away from nuclear madness. Imagine a more wide open nukes market than we already have...sheesh. And has Gramps ever said word one about the concern for the millions of tons of processed nuclear fuel still inside the former Soviet Union. Senator Obama sure has.

BTW...if Gramps wants to look at appeasers, there are the ones who signed the first SALT Agreement. Sheesh.

Well if Gramps wants to have a discussion of "lousy" presidents, he doesn't have to look to far...over 70% of Americans know a lousy one when they see him.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 09:03 AM
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16. Well, he's known them all. nt
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 09:04 AM by Gidney N Cloyd
(not that I necessarily agree with him)
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 09:22 AM
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17. And they let him get away with such a bullshit answer?
"Mr. McCain, you did not answer the question. If you have no idea why Mr. Carter opposed nuclear reprocessing, that's OK to say, too."

Hint to media -- that's why there are such things as "followup questions." You ARE allowed to ask them.

:eyes:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 05:40 PM
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18. McCain is a political, ethical and intellectual "Pygmy" compared
to Carter. He should be ashamed for being so pompous as to criticize one who is totally superior to him.
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