"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."

[Smith_3]

This is a sentence that needs to be repeated over and over and over and over in the next months. I think nothing sums up more precisly, exactly what kind of guy John McCain is.

I think we need to be totally blunt about it too. The next time you talk to someone from a Christian group, don't forget to remind them of this sentence. When you talk to those Republican relatives that everyone seems to have, tell them about this sentence. Don't call it the "C-Word", tell it as it is. This is what is going to keep alot of them from going to the ballot. They will never vote Democrat of course, but it might just get them to feel a little disgust towards their candidate, as they should.

http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2008/04/straight-talk-e.html

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. please edit your post and take out the offensive C word.

thanks.

[sellitman]

3. The OP is quoting McCain.

You need to understand the need to keep it in. It is VERY offensive and shows anyone a great reason for not voting for McCain.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. Look...we all know he said it--its been posted numerous times

Let's have a little class here. Use "C"

Give women some respect. No one here would consider quoting someone who used the "N" word. Give women the same respect you would give people of color.

[Clovis Sangrail]

7. bullshit

had McCain used 'the N word' people would be quoting it verbatim all over the place and I'd be one of them.
Saying somebody used the '? word' doesn't carry nearly the same weight as actually quoting them.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. BS...

It is so offensive to women...and you all repeat it and repeat it saying, "we are just repeating it cause he said it."

Childish and misogynistic.

[Karenina]

29. Not! It's a QUOTE.

And must be repeated ACCURATELY!

[anigbrowl]

58. That doesn't mean we should all read it in subject lines.

Nor 'must' it be repeated, actually. People who invoke some abstract 'need' to reprint such things are often just looking for an excuse to say something offensive without having to be responsible for the consequences.

[mcg]

71. What about trollop? Trollop means "an immoral or promiscuous woman, esp. a prostitute."

amongst other things

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Trollop

[Kahuna]

30. Would you stop trying to speak for ALL women. Sheesh. nt

[malaise]

64. Ditto n/t

[underseasurveyor]

73. Hear Here

Agreed

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

85. Exactly! Thank you!

[Maine-ah]

32. meh!

I'm a woman, and understand that it's a quote. Doesn't bother me any :shrug:

[CatWoman]

94. who is that adorable little doll in your sig line?

:)

[AngryOldDem]

39. Add me to the list of a woman who knows how to put things into context.

I am outraged and offended that he said it. And true ugliness needs to be exposed, especially to those who won't see the flaws.

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. I am a woman and I want that word posted in CAPS

and plastered all over the internet inside quotation marks so the world knows McCain said it. Unless you support McCain, I can't imagine not wanting that quote spread far and wide.

[greenbriar]

66. EXactly

far and wide


women who move to mcnasty cause hillary is out are just plain idiotic

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

86. Yeppers!!!!

[Highway61]

99. Agree

Tell it like it is....He said it, he owns it... throw it right out there front and center for all to hear what this short fused bastard is capable of.

[Coexist]

43. as a woman, to me its just a word.

[grace0418]

46. As a woman I *am* offended by the word. That's why I think McCain should be quoted AS IS.

I'm offended when I see the bodies of dead soldiers and Iraqis, but I don't think photos of them should be censored. We need to be reminded WHY we are so offended by this shit.

[hokies4ever]

52. Sorry that we're not treating McCain with kid gloves like you'd like

Like Obama said, if they bring a knife, we're bringing a gun. What, you thought the gun was just for show? :rofl:

On a serious note, I do agree with your sentiment about editing out the c-word for the purpose of this thread. :patriot:

Even if you are an annoying Hillary supporter. (Hey you didn't think I'd let you off that easily, right? :rofl: )

[Demi_Babe]

96. as a woman I would be offended if it were NOT quoted EXACTLY the way it was used

[Dukkha]

106. free speech is a bitch ain't it?

pun intended

focus your childish outrage on the man who actually said it and not the poster quoting it.

[alphafemale]

8. If McCain had used the "N" word I would expect that to be quoted precisely as well.

There are times it's more harmful to soften the edges of reality.

[tavalon]

27. Exactly!

This needs to be emphasized for exactly that word.

[alphafemale]

9. He's also called Vietnamese people Gooks.

Yeah, that's offensive and shocking and wrenching too.


Saying that he referred to Vietnamese as the "G" word doesn't have the same impact.

[sarge43]

12. Smith is quoting McCain

He didn't say "you C" or "you C-Word".

As a woman I find that word extremely, profoundly offensive. However, I find it even more offensive that McCain is not being called on it by the MSM.

I've told this story to neighbors and friends. They hadn't heard about it and were shocked when I told them precisely what that swine said.

[lonestarnot]

17. Go have your fucking class. But don't try to sensor DUers here especially on truth.

Using sex as a weapon for silence will get you clubbed. I hear they want members at Phoenix Country Club. You might try there.

[Name removed]

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[Evergreen Emerald]

35. What? No one mentioned silence

No one mentioned silence. But, seriously. Everyone knows what he said without you have to say it. You are offensive.

[lonestarnot]

48. LOL.

:rofl: Thank you.

[MetaTrope]

56. Sorry, it's the first time I'VE heard the quote

But some context would be nice too...

[tavalon]

26. Nope, I disagree

We need to show him for the crass, lowlife individual that he is.

[fla nocount]

28. Spell it with a K, I'm sure that's the letter John used when he said it.

It's much less offensive with the K. Also he called her a trollop, he did not say, "at least I don't paint up my face to look like a baboon's ass." I think the Senator showed restraint.

Aside, this sounds like banter between an aging politico and his meal ticket, heiress, trophy wife. I doubt offense was meant or taken by either party. McCain's use of the word in front of others is telling though.

[appleannie1]

51. I am a woman. All women should be telling all others exactly what he said.

He hates women, thinks they are lower class citizens and probably abuses his wife in other ways besides calling her names. We should shout it from the rooftops to make the world know what a lowlife he really is.

[leveymg]

72. Would you be equally offended if someone quoted Cindy saying John's a "prick"?

Or does your concern with language only operate in one direction?

[MNBrewer]

4. Tell that to McCain.

Is that any way to speak to your one and only? (well, not exactly ONE and ONLY, but....)

[Smith_3]

6. It is exactly what John McCain said, and he is running for president.

So if we cannot quote our possible future president by the word at any given time, I think is something to be really worried about...

[lunatica]

13. The offensive word is exactly what the OP is emphasizing

McCain didn't say "you "C" word" to his wife. He said the word cunt. He said it out loud and in front of reporters.

If anyone is offended by the truth they probably shouldn't hang out with liberal adults or include themselves in adult conversations. If your sensibilities are offended then don't invite yourself to the party. And be aware that your criticism is offensive to many, especially those who believe in quoting someone verbatim. Some people aren't afraid of words or truth.

[Smith_3]

15. If the party of family values uses that word, how can it possibly be inappropriate language?

If McCain thinks its ok to use, then it should be fine for the ears of Teh Children(TM) too, shouldn't it? :shrug:

[lonestarnot]

18. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[Vanje]

22. Leave it as is. It IS offensive!

McCain's quote is horribly offensive. Thats why the original poster is repeating it.
Dont damper it down.
McCain didnt call his wife a "C-word", in public.

He. Called. His. Wife. a CUNT!

In fucking public!

Its offensive

Not nearly enough people have been offended.

[uppityperson]

44. The point IS is that McCain said this offensive thing. Editing would dilute that message.

Yes, it is offensive. That is why it has to be repeated, that McCain called his wife a cunt, not that McCain said the "c" word as the second loses a bunch of its whallop.

[wolverinez]

47. Is this fourth grade?

????

[anigbrowl]

62. Apparently...

'AAAWWW! He said a bad word! He said cunt! I'm gonna tell, I am!'

There's a difference between raising it in the context of a general critique of McCain, and just saying it because it's a deliciously naughty word but now there's a virtuous excuse for doing so. Deep down, everyone here knows this to be true, and the pretend-concern for Cindy McCain is actually an assertion of social superiority over a perceived rival. For those who are about to post an impassioned defense of the 'need' to repeat it endlessly, I offer some accessible reading suggestions:

http://www.amazon.com/You-Just-Dont-Understand-Conversation/dp/0345372050
http://www.amazon.com/Games-People-Play-Transactional-Analysis/dp/0345410033

[hyphenate]

70. Well, since it is now

almost a full 15 hours later, I don't think the comment got censored, and for that, while I personally despise that word, I am grateful.

We live nowadays in such a world where the sensibilities of the minority become the rules for the majority. In many cases, this political correction is simply just another form of censorship. Some group doesn't like the connotations related to a word? Remove it! Ban it! Someone objects to a term describing a person, place or thing? Remove it! Ban it! We've gotten to the point where we have to be our own censors even when we are engaging in unrehearsed conversation.

Where it hurts the most is in what was once the first amendment: where is that freedom of speech we used to hear so much about from the framers of our constitution? We will have someone on our ass if we *shudder* say an inappropriate phrase, word or epithet that others can hear.

It riles me that in just the last two weeks, one of the few people who truly understood the whole hypocritical nature of censorship has died, and with him the rebellious spirit of so many of us has died with him. Years ago, we would have been the first ones to chide someone who railed against someone's choices of words--now we are outraged and protest way too much about someone else's comments. And yet, we must understand that if we are to enjoy the full protection of the First Amendment right, we must also make certain that everyone has that same right.

It pains me to think of how much free speech has been removed strictly on the strength of intimidation. Of course, to me, I see it as the weapon of the wrong-winged religious whackos who use sheer, organized protestations to censor everyone outside their perfect little world. They have the advantage of organization, and they have a certain amount of passion devoted to protest anything they deem spurious. If we were even close to the uses they have put their passion, we would have never gone through the past 8 years as they have existed for us. But we lose our collective spine when we try to remain "friends" with everyone.

Now, McSame's comment is as derogatory as all get out. I admit I'm not familiar with the story of how it came about, but the comment itself isn't as nasty as the person who said it, and that person's intent in saying it. The person to whom it was directed probably felt very small when it was said, and that person, obviously a woman, could be considered the victim of verbal abuse if nothing else. I personally would want to advise that woman to find enough backbone to leave, slap the asshole who said it, or simply to face the reality that the man who said it has WAY too much disregard for women to even be considered a man. The words weren't meant to just hurt--the language was meant to humiliate. (If this was said to McSame's wife, I would say that he has a LOT of trouble with her having more money than him, and needs to bring her down to his level repeatedly. By saying this kind of thing, he is reminding her constantly of who is the "boss" in the family.)

As for the words used, the truth is, unless people see the comment in its full detail, it is only going to be dealt with lightly, and the impact it carries would be simply lost. And at the same time, we have to realize that if we can't deal with one of the "seven" words being uttered, those seven words will lose their impact and new words would come along and carry the same kind of weight, instead. It is only when "scary" words are used that they can be removed from being mysterious and thus hold sway over us. This was why "Freedom of speech" is one of our most powerful laws--it gives equal meaning to all words, and thus takes away the power mere words can hold over us in general. Bring them into the light--there, they will lose the factor of intimidation they carry, and there, nothing will remain mysterious for long.

On a lighter note, I have long been a TV fanatic, and from the time when I first heard George Carlin's routine, I have watched some of the words once censored from television come into the light, and their damnable meanings have vanished. The word, bastard, once a cuss word, returned to its meaning as the illegitimate child of someone; the word, bitch, now restored to its meaning as a female dog; even the words penis and vagina given back to the world as nice, objective terms for genitalia. There are others, but at 12:30 in the morning, I would rather not rack my brain. ;)

As part of the other part of my post, I would like to say that we do seem to carry political correctness a bit too far, and that's not good. There was a man named Thomas Bowdler (in the 18th century) who decided to censor much of the literature he was exposed to, including Shakespeare. He produced some rather horrendous versions of these works, and others throughout time have also tried to censor published works in such a fashion. One company, just a few years ago, catered to wrong-winged religious whackos by taking commercially produced movies, TV shows and such and censored them by cutting out scenes, dubbing over dialog, and giving the families sanitized versions.

Can you imagine where we would be if any of Mark Twain's books, To Kill a Mockingbird, Uncle Tom's Cabin, and others were censored? All the things these books, films and art that have been taught to us makes us see culture from a historical viewpoint, and lets us see how far we've come from any given point in history. If we whitewash some of the literature of the present day, what will be able to show in generations to come? Are those who look back a 100 years from now going to only get that sanitized view of what we have said and done? We can't be so afraid to show what subcultures and other people around the world are doing, nor can we let other intimidate us into throwing all of the wisdom we have tried to gain looking at our past.

[Swamp Rat]

78. "Fuck Cunt Shit Piss Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VSRjJgY9y0

[dems_rightnow]

89. Exactly

It's the context. There aren't any words so mortifying that they can't be said, it's how they're used.

[tomp]

90. here, here! for george carlin. nt

[Jack_DeLeon]

105. ROFLMAO...yeah censorship nice...

thats really classy.

[napi21]

2. Oh I've told several people about that comment! Everyone I've

told reacted with pure disgust!

I still wonder why Cindy has stuck with him???I can accept some nasty comments from a spouse. Lots of things have been uttered in anger, but with no malice intended. BUT...that comment by McNuts is WAYYYYY over the line and inexcusable!

[lunatica]

10. He also said it in public

In front of reporters. One assumes that a public figure knows what that means. It's not a great stretch of the imagination to understand that politicians are very aware of every word they utter and the difference between private and public behavior because most of humanity is aware of it.

The very fact that a lifelong politician feels free to insult his wife in public in such a shocking manner says everything anyone needs to know about his character.

[jgraz]

24. If he says that in public, what does he do in private?

Any record of suspicious bruises in Mrs. McCain?

[haele]

60. If she's ambitious enough to be First Lady or a high profile political wife -

She'll stick with him even if he says that. If she "doesn't believe in divorce" or moves in circles that don't - even though she committed adultery with him before they were married, she'll stick with him.

Personally, she strikes me as someone who, despite all she has, is not comfortable in her skin. There's something rather brittle and uncomfortably off about her - I wonder if she either is naturally narcissistic and barely able to play the human role - above it all in her own world, or if she's a self-perpetuating victim - a masochist who seeks out relationships that are naturally abusive.

The interaction between her and John always seems rather stiff on her part and offhand on his, as if he sees her as a trophy and/or meal ticket and she's just "putting up with it all". They don't really seem to connect with each other.

Just my observation.

Haele

[lunatica]

14. The more that word is quoted the less votes he'll get

You're right. It should be repeated often. Women and men who respect women will not vote for him.

[treestar]

16. His excuse about it being a long day

Is helpful too. He said it in 1992, when he was only 56. If he couldn't handle a long day then, how can he do it now, at 72? Dodging for ageism comments, but that's past retirement age.

[Vickers]

33. "He said it in 1992, when he was only 56."

That bears repeating, too.

[Time for change]

20. McCain said it.

He should be called on it.

[Smith_3]

21. And since, because of Bill Clinton teh Children know what a blowjob is...

thanks to McCain they know what a cunt is now too.

[Bluebear]

36. That's right, what will we tell the CHILDREN!!?!!??

Good point smith!

[polmaven]

100. The children know what a blow job is

because of Republican assholes, and Ken Starr, etc. Bill Clinton did not shout to the world that he had an affair. The Republicans did that!

[Hydra]

23. "Don't insult my lack of hair, you Cunt!"

Ya, very presidential, there. Takes playful comment and loses temper far out of proportion.

Putin would enjoy pissing this guy off in the UN.

[glitch]

25. Inner circles know McCain plasters his own make-up on very tastefully.

A symphony in mauves, someone said.

[hootinholler]

31. Let's cut to tape shall we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo

:rofl:

-Hoot

[Bluebear]

34. "No Cuntry for Old Men"

:rofl:

[hootinholler]

40. "I think that there are cultural safeguards against that happening"

:rofl:

-Hoot

[AngryOldDem]

41. LOL!

Props to an absolutely clever play on words.

[ColbertWatcher]

55. I wish they gave Oscars for YouTube videos! n/t

[Sheets of Easter]

59. ROFL.

That reminds me of an old Butthole Surfers song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9duSZL_-mM

[asdjrocky]

63. Loved the Butthole Surfers.

Wish I would have remembered that.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

87. lol! That was great! It seems like there are a few videos about this! This is a very

funny one from Howard Stern

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cxuSXgKv7A&feature=related

[Kaylee]

93. Oh My God that is too funny...I have tears in my eyes.

:rofl:

[sarge43]

37. OK, what kind of relationship the McCains have is their

business. However, if he can say that in public about his wife and mother of his children, WTF does he think about the rest of us wimmins.

Screw the tired excuse. Exhaustion isn't a creative force; it's a door for whatever thoughts were already in place.

[skooooo]

38. Honestly, the quote sounds like something out of Monty Python...

Now shut your festering gob!

:rofl:

[pt22]

45. Gee, thanks a lot. I just LOVE seeing that word in sub lines.

:grr:

[hokies4ever]

53. Get over it. We have a country to take back and it won't be easy.

If the truth about McCain's words offend you, go to sesamestreet.com . :rofl:

[beevul]

49. Count me among...

Count me among those in the camp that think no punches should be pulled.

I understand the word offends...but mcstain needs to be unloaded on with both barrels, not treated with kid gloves.

[Hekate]

50. Probably covers a bruise or two. Anybody else get the creepy feeling he's abusive to her?

She was terribly young when he pursued her all over the states and then wed her. I could be entirely wrong, but there's body language -- Cindy's as stiff as a poker and wears her clothes like a suit of armor -- and then his infamous temper. There's no excuse for a man saying that to his wife, whether privately or publicly.

Hekate

[anigbrowl]

61. No, actually I don't...quite the opposite in fact.

Having known a rich variety of people in alternative lifestyles, I've given up trying to make judgments based on single incidents. There's no question of her being financially independent (she's a lot richer than he is) and she doesn't come across to me as emotionally dependent either. For all you or I know she spanks him every night before they go to sleep.

I've often disagreed with EvergreenEmerald in the past and we hold quite different outlooks, but I back her up 100% on this. I think a lot of repostings here are motivated 50% by the chance to write 'cunt' in public with a ready-made excuse, and 50% by a general desire to thrash McCain over a personal issue which they really know nothing about. I am far more interested in attacking his stupid policies and lack of leadership ability than in taking part in some ignorant circle-jerk about the guy's personal life, or that of his wife.

Besides, reposting it endlessly on DU is bullshit. Nobody is here because they support McCain so it's pure self-indulgence. Get an account at FreeRepublic, and start a discussion with women posters there about whether his past public remarks set an appropriate tone or not, and you have some excuse to at least be trying to change people's minds. Here on DU, it's just another 'Look at MEEEEE' thread.

I'm sure this will be followed by a storm of people thumping their chests and accusing me of not wanting to win the election or hating the Republicans enough, as EE's comments have been. Knock yourselves out.

[Hekate]

77. Actually, I agree with you completely on the uselessness of threads like this.

You state the case pretty well.

Hekate

[Joanne98]

84. I do.

[ColbertWatcher]

54. People please. Let us be reasonable and analyze this, shall we?

Okay, so Admiral McCombover was supposed to have said,

At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.

In front of at least three reporters, in response to his (then) wife pointing out that he is going bald.

These are the facts.

He was in some kind of interview situation with at least three members of the media when his wife pointed out his thinning hair, when he said

At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.

Three members of the media heard his wife say he was going bald.

Losing one's hair is really a turning point in a man's life. Especially for him.

After all he was a successful Navy pilot. Well, not so much successful, so much as was a Navy pilot. But, it must have been exciting to have survived five crashes. Few people survive one plane crash, much less five. And to have seen them from the front seat, so to speak. That had to have been exciting to say the least.

Also, he survived 5 and a half years (2 years fewer than James Stockdale) in a POW camp, extensively documented by the media starting less than a month after he was captured. That experience was probably the only reason why he could never achieve the rank of Admiral like his father and grandfather had before him. But, Vietnam is a part of exotic Asia and he probably has loads of pictures of him from that time, thanks to all the media attention he got. Being the son and grandson of Admirals and all. Those pictures show a young man with a full head of hair, however. It had turned white by that time, but it was still there.

His hair, that is. All of it was there, but it had turned white.

To review: he has a history of manly activities, from a career as a Navy pilot to surviving 5 1/2 years as a POW. Plus, being the son and grandson of Admirals, that's a part of his history that isn't much discussed, which is not fair, because it had to have shaped the man he became.

Imagine being the son and grandson of Admirals. Imagine the places he saw as a young boy! Imagine the many heroic things his father and grandfather did as Admirals. That had to be just as exciting as at least one of his plane crashes.

But, back to his thinning hair.

Having survived his time as a POW with his full, lush head of hair intact (even though it had turned white), and before that surviving five plane crashes and a childhood no doubt filled with adventure as the son and grandson of Admirals, losing his hair must have been a shocking reminder that he was no longer the youthful plane-crashing POW son and grandson of Admirals.

And to be reminded of having lost all that potential in front of other people, who probably didn't crash five planes and probably had all their hair.

Why, it must have been too much for him to bear.

She deserved to be called a trollop, the cunt, and any beating he saw fit to give her after they left.

[lowry]

91. "Go fuck yourself, you cunt"

This quote NEEDS to appear exactly as McCain uttered it. How many people even know he used this horrifically offensive word at all?? In public! What "Christian" would support such a wretched guy?

In 2003 or so, VP Dick Cheney told the senior Senator from Vt, Patrick Leahy, to "Go fuck yourself." That quote, and that f-word, appeared in the NY Times. For a while, you could search NYTimes.com using FUCK and find that quote. But no more. How many sheeple would even believe you if you told them what he said? On the floor of the US Senate?

Same w/ McCain's use of "cunt." It's a clue to his character--tell it like it is.

[ColbertWatcher]

97. Interesting point. McCain's cunt may be Orwelled...

...just like Cheney's fuck.

[ismnotwasm]

57. There is a great book by the title

"Cunt" a third wave feminist book that tries somewhat successfully to reclaim the word.

McCain evidently thinks having one is an insult. Which isn't surprising, since I'm sure he's a misogynist ass who will stuff the supreme court with hate mongering forced birth shit heads. All the more reason to keep his attitude right up front and public where everyone can see.

He also called Vietnamese "gooks" as recently as 2000, I believe it was. (I could be wrong about the date)

[Mz Pip]

65. So posting "c*nt*

makes it better? Does the elimination of one letter make it less objectionable?

McCain said the word. He didn't say "You c word."

[ColbertWatcher]

67. You're right, McCain said "Cunt." n/t

[Disturbed]

68. I have never heard anyone calling a women a trollop.

Is that a word from the 1940's?

[ColbertWatcher]

69. Websters says it dates back to 1621...

...which explains why Admiral McCombover uses it.

(www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trollop)

[Bluebear]

74. "...which explains why Admiral McCombover uses it."

:spray:

[Prophet 451]

81. It's very, very old

The word (usually as an insult, occasionally as a term of affection) goes back to the mid seventeenth century. It's mostly fallen out of use in the last forty years or so but you can still hear it occasionally here (Britain).

[Alexander]

75. A lot of people don't know he said this. And they're shocked when they find out.

The more people know this the better.

[Bluebear]

76. Feel free to pass on this article, "The Dark Side of McCain", which mentions the incident

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3537828

[Political Heretic]

79. Are the five witnesses on the record? Who is the author of this book that makes the claim?

Believe me, what my gut knows about McCain makes me personally assume this is true. However, the skeptic in me, and the person who has seen plenty of politicians smeared by accusations like these that are hard to verify - makes me want more information before I go blanketing my conservative friends with this.

I want my ducks in a row.

It seems helpful that apparently McCain doesn't deny making the comments, saying only that "it had been a long day."

[Rose Siding]

88. I'd like to know about that too.

Who were the wits? Credibility of a charge so incindiary is key. If it really happened, it's important but without names attatched to the charges it will just be dismissed as rumor. Though what we know of his temper lends credence to the story, without knowing more details I'm tempted to dismiss it myself.

[NYC Liberal]

92. Well McCain was asked point blank at one of his campaign events if it was true

And all he said was something about it not being an appropriate question and moved on very quickly.

I think most people would have said it wasn't true, if it wasn't, given that situtation.

[Political Heretic]

101. Again, that's according to the author - can this be confirmed? Any news articles?

[ColbertWatcher]

102. Even with news articles...

...this could be nothing more than one guy saying her heard another guy call his wife a cunt.

The man needs to refute this himself.

[NYC Liberal]

103. Well if you mean him being asked the question,

it's on tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOl4iT46Eec

[Political Heretic]

104. YES. That's a start

[ColbertWatcher]

98. McCain should be given a chance to refute all these rumors. n/t

[Prophet 451]

80. The problem isn't that he used the word "cunt"

(I should say up front, that I'm of the school of thought that believes that if a word has the power to offend, you should shout that word from the rooftops to remove that power. I also agree with certain feminists that since a "cunt" is warm, welcoming and beautiful, it's not much of an insult).

The problem is where and when he used it. The word can be used without causing offence, in an intimate setting, between consenting adults. If Mr and Mrs McCain like to use fruity language in the bedroom, that's no-one else's business. The problem is that he obviously used it with an intention to insult. That's bad enough (and a complete over-reaction to what was a fairly mild tease about his thinning hair) but he also used it in public, in front of witnesses. That suggests that either A) his temper is a real issue or B) he has a need to demonstrate poersonal power which is worrying in a politician.

[cap]

82. I think finesse with this will work better than a broadcast

stilletto vs. shotgun... It is too offensive to a constituency that we are trying to move in our favor.

Each weapon has their place.

[Joanne98]

83. Put it in a chain email.

[NancyG]

95. Cunt. I own it. Now McCain has to. nt

[Manifestor_of_Light]

107. What about equal representation for trollops?

Or brazen hussies????

:shrug: