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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 06:24 PM
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And God Said, "Just Do It."
:shrug:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1818197,00.html

And God Said, "Just Do It."
Thursday, Jun. 26, 2008 By DAVID VAN BIEMA


Illustration for TIME by Tim O'Brien


Genesis, chapter 2 verse 24, says a man "shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." But how liberally to define cleave? That was the very special Bible query the Rev. Stacy Spencer and his wife Rhonda took up last month with 252 married people at their New Direction Christian Church in Memphis, Tenn. And the Spencers' answer was ... encouraging. Does frequent sex have a place in marriage? Yep. Oral sex? Read the Song of Solomon 2: 3 for assurance. How about role-playing? One participant expressed a yearning to see her husband dressed as a police officer. The Good Book offers no specifics on that, so Stacy Spencer allowed that it was up to the woman, "as long as you're not lusting after a particular officer. Jesus talked about spiritual adultery, and that could be spiritual adultery. But if it's just a generic cop, go for it."

Superior sex can be difficult for some couples to discuss with each other, let alone with their pastor. But having taken on almost every other aspect of their congregants' lives, churches oriented toward young adults and Gen Xers have begun promoting not just better sex, but more of it. Well, not just promoting it but penciling it in. When New Direction launched its "40 Nights of Grrreat Sex" program, the Spencers gave participants daily planners. A typical week is marked "Sun: Worship together"; "Mon: Give your wife a full body massage"; "Tues: Quickie in any room besides the bedroom"; "Wed: Pleasure your partner"; "Thurs: Read 1 Corinthians 7--How can I please you more?"; and so on.

New Direction is not the only church promoting a frequent-sex regimen. In February, Paul Wirth, pastor of the Relevant Church in Tampa, Fla., issued what he called "The 30-Day Sex Challenge." The program featured an extensive questionnaire, a Bible verse a day and the assumption that participants would engage in some kind of sex each night. Wirth says he has received calls from eight pastors asking about his program's guidelines. A megachurch in Texas, the Fellowship of the Woodlands, holds semiannual Sacred Sex Weekends ("Learn how you can experience a fulfilling sex life with God's blessing").

Scheduling time for sex appears to be in vogue, and not just among believers. In June, couples in Colorado and North Carolina published books detailing their postnuptial attempts to have sex 101 and 365 days in a row, respectively. But the issue takes on added urgency among conservative Christians, who have just as high a divorce rate as the country at large but theoretically take the till-death-do-us-part aspect of marriage as a faith obligation. When it comes to sex, Wirth contends, many are thinking, "If this doesn't get better, it's gonna be a really sucky life."

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Still, these new calendrical sexhortations have their critics. Lauren Sandler, feminist and author of Righteous: Dispatches from the Evangelical Youth Movement, suspects they are "another way of becoming the best Christian wife--to have tons of orgasms so their husbands can go to church the next day and tell people how they really made Jesus proud in the sack." Todd Friel, host of the syndicated radio show Way of the Master, says sexual intimacy was created as a taste of what it's like to be in a "right relationship" with God. "That's amazing, and it's a little different than 'Come and improve your sex life in a 30-day challenge,'" he says. But some participants find meaning in the programs. "After more than 20 yrs of marriage, this has been 'a shot in the arm,'" one New Direction congregant wrote on the Spencers' blog. "In the past month we have been to Victoria's Secret 4 times (the secret is out!!). Thanks Pastor and 1st Lady for your openness, and obediences to God."
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 06:29 PM
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1. so, when WAS it that God created hair stylists? Quite an illustration
Sounds like it might be healthy turn of events in American churches, but I am cynical enough to wonder if it's just PR & Marketing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 06:31 PM
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3. The interference by people who are supposed to offer
spiritual guidance confuses me. But I'm not religious and don't go to church, so maybe churches have 'progressed' since I went. I might consider going back with the DH! :rofl: ;)
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 06:30 PM
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2. in fairness, Jesus did say God is Love
so bring the love...

Interestingly enough, Jesus didn`t need a proposition to determine what type of love was acceptable....If God is Love, ergo all love is acceptable...Try that point to your fundy friends when they denounce gay marriage...
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