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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:23 AM
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*Breaking* Sy Hersh: "Preparing the Battlefield" ("Gang of 8" Covert Operations in Iran)
Edited on Sun Jun-29-08 11:38 AM by KoKo01
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

Preparing the Battlefield
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.
by Seymour M. Hersh July 7, 2008

ate last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iran’s suspected nuclear-weapons program.

Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.

Under federal law, a Presidential Finding, which is highly classified, must be issued when a covert intelligence operation gets under way and, at a minimum, must be made known to Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and the Senate and to the ranking members of their respective intelligence committees—the so-called Gang of Eight. Money for the operation can then be reprogrammed from previous appropriations, as needed, by the relevant congressional committees, which also can be briefed.

“The Finding was focussed on undermining Iran’s nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change,” a person familiar with its contents said, and involved “working with opposition groups and passing money.” The Finding provided for a whole new range of activities in southern Iran and in the areas, in the east, where Baluchi political opposition is strong, he said.

Although some legislators were troubled by aspects of the Finding, and “there was a significant amount of high-level discussion” about it, according to the source familiar with it, the funding for the escalation was approved. In other words, some members of the Democratic leadership—Congress has been under Democratic control since the 2006 elections—were willing, in secret, to go along with the Administration in expanding covert activities directed at Iran, while the Party’s presumptive candidate for President, Barack Obama, has said that he favors direct talks and diplomacy.

The request for funding came in the same period in which the Administration was coming to terms with a National Intelligence Estimate, released in December, that concluded that Iran had halted its work on nuclear weapons in 2003. The Administration downplayed the significance of the N.I.E., and, while saying that it was committed to diplomacy, continued to emphasize that urgent action was essential to counter the Iranian nuclear threat. President Bush questioned the N.I.E.’s conclusions, and senior national-security officials, including Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, made similar statements. (So did Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee.) Meanwhile, the Administration also revived charges that the Iranian leadership has been involved in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq: both directly, by dispatching commando units into Iraq, and indirectly, by supplying materials used for roadside bombs and other lethal goods. (There have been questions about the accuracy of the claims; the Times, among others, has reported that “significant uncertainties remain about the extent of that involvement.”)

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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:26 AM
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1. You heard it here first
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:37 AM
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2. This is SO sad ... (n/t).
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 03:40 PM
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15. I go for horrifying
My congress critter poo poohed me when I asked what he was going to do to stop this. His reply...I don't think even they are that crazy. Yeah right
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:39 AM
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3. Does it occur to more people than just me that . . .
. . . there is a new moon Thursday and Friday is the Fourth of July?

Is anything going down under the cover of darkness?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:48 AM
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4. Future generations might name it
"The day the crazy people killed the USA" if they do unleash the dogs as it were.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:51 AM
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6. Damn! I was hoping to enjoy this 4th.
Good call though
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:21 PM
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8. Let's hope I'm just being paranoid
Nevertheless, such a decision from the Bushies can be expected to make better symbolism than common sense.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:28 PM
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10. yep
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:28 PM
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11. . . . and, using that theory . . .
There is a new moon on August 30, meaning an attack on Iran could be a backdrop for the Republican Convention starting September 1.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 05:06 PM
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16. What a suspicious untrusting conspiratorial mind
Edited on Sun Jun-29-08 05:07 PM by Phred42
The repugs would start another war as a political tool?




Cheers!

:toast:
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:50 AM
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5. U.S. Ambassador denys Hersh Claim:
U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker, reacting to Hersh's story on CNN's Late Edition, said: "I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran."


Personally, I believe Hersh and not a Bush appointee





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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:23 PM
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9. was crocker the one on cspan this morning, supposedly reporting from baghdad
on the state of the illegal occupation? whoever it was, the body language clearly indicated that person was lying through his teeth (and the fact that his necktie was up around his throat. . . . )
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:21 PM
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7. K & R--thanks for posting. n/t
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 01:17 PM
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12. IThink Sy Hersch is a Great Investigative Reporter
and that he is tapping into some real sources of information. However, he has been predicting a US attack on Iran for approximately three years.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 02:18 PM
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13. Maybe his reporting has held it off for three years? There are more than Hersh
who are reporting that it will be before Bush leaves office. They are desperate and they will do anything to win. The "Hague" is waiting for them....someday.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 10:18 PM
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19. I Don't Doubt That Internal Conflict and Premature Leaks
made it more difficult for them. However, it is a common theme for believers in unfulfilled predictions to conclude that their or their group's efforts have led the predictions to remain unfulfilled.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 02:39 PM
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14. "Our Iran invasion will go as swimingly as our Iraq invasion. Smirk." - Commander AWOL
"How could it be otherwise with republicon chickenhawks like me and VP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney calling the shots from our occult bunker? Smirk."

- Commander AWOL
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 08:43 PM
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17. Reminds me of "Where Have all the Flowers Gone...when will they ever learn."
It's what came into my mind along with filthy epithets that I wouldn't repeat here. :-(
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:14 PM
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18. We need to read this ...and if the MSM discounts Hersh..we need to remember what he wrote! n/t
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