NRA lays its cards on the table... Morton Grove folds.

[-..__...]

Wise, prudent and proper move.

Now if only the other communities would follow suit...

NRA Eyes More Targets After D.C. Gun-Ban Win

by Libby Lewis

Weekend Edition Sunday, June 29, 2008 · Five cities and suburbs are facing lawsuits challenging their bans on handguns. When the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark June 26 decision, rejecting Washington, D.C.'s ban on handguns, gun-rights lawyers swung into action.

As a result, the legal landscape for gun laws could face dramatic changes.

The village of Morton Grove, Ill., just north of Chicago, has one of the oldest handgun bans in the nation on its books. It's also the target of one of the five lawsuits filed by the National Rifle Association.

Village Manager Joe Wade says Morton Grove isn't going to wait for a court battle. It's going to act.

"The village of Morton Grove has every intention to comply with the Supreme Court ruling," Wade says. "We're going to propose an ordinance that would eliminate the possession-of-handgun ban within the village."

:smoke:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92008363

(edit... fix link)

[WheelWalker]

1. I want you on my team.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

2. I'm all in!

nt

[virginia mountainman]

3. OUTSTANDING!!!

[virginia mountainman]

4. Hey, D_S..

You seen "klashnikitty's" new freind yet??



(from a post Beevul made earlier today)

[dysfunctional press]

5. there's an i.r.s field office in morton grove...

they might want to rethink that.

[KharmaTrain]

6. The Law Was Never Really Enforced

I grew up near Morton Grove and was in the area when this ban came down. I knew several people in the town who had guns prior to the ban and kept them in their homes afterwards. It was a don't ask, don't tell policy. As long as a gun owner kept the guns outta sight the local police would not make a stink about it. The ones who benefitted from the "ban" were the politicians and realtors...the prices of homes in the area went up in the years ahead in some part due to that ban and the yuppie families it brought to the area.

[Thothmes]

7. A law that is never really enforced

does not belong on the books. Who gets to make the decision whether to enforce a law or not. It could be to silence/embarras a political opponents, deter racially undesirables from relocating to the other side of the tracks,or against a citizen that a cop has it in for. If it is not evenly applied on a regular basis, it should be removed from the books. JMO

[aikoaiko]

8. I look forward to a similar post about Daley and Chicago.

Oh happy day.

[DailyGrind51]

14. I really enjoyed watching Richie's face turn red as he went into

another one of his tirades! Anything that raises Daley's blood pressure seems to lower mine.

[Junkdrawer]

9. CONTRIBUTE TO THE BRADY CAMPAIGN TO FIGHT THESE LAWSUITS HERE:

https://secure2.convio.net/mmm/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_DONATION_OPTIONS&CAMPAIGN_ID=5921

[Squatch]

10. I s'pose that's a good idea, if you like pissing away your money.

I'm sure the Brady's (who are Republicans, as you are well aware) would appreciate your hard-earned cash.

[Junkdrawer]

11. And I'm sure you're well aware that the Brady Campaign is non-partisan WHILE THE NRA...

Openly tilts towards the Republican Party.

[Squatch]

13. Please see re #12, below.

[Junkdrawer]

15. Repeating a cynical half-truth doesn't make it true...

Jim and Sarah Brady are Republicans.

The Brady Campaign is a non-partisan organization.

[beevul]

32. Former Indiana mayor, republican paul helmke...

Former Indiana republican mayor paul helmke...just a coincidence jim and sara picked him to be president of the brady group, nothing to see here folks :sarcasm:

[MicaelS]

16. "Openly tilts towards the Republican Party"

And just WHY do you supposes that is? It couldn't be the fact that DEMOCRATIC pols in the northeast, great lakes and west coast have been behind almost all of the gun control in the last few decades, could it? The NRA-ILA is a single issue organization, they support those who support the RKBA. If you don't, then no matter what party you belong to, they will oppose you.

[Junkdrawer]

18. Heston moved the NRA from the "pretense of neutrality"...

...

Heston campaigned tirelessly for President Bush during the most tightly fought election in U.S. history. Targeting three key swing-states, the NRA consistently drew crowds of over 8,000 cheering supporters to hear Heston speak. Sometimes the Heston rally out-drew a Gore rally when the two appeared simultaneously.

Frustrated that the NRA was "misleading" the public, the Gore campaign called LaPierre and pleaded with him to tell Heston that Gore does not want to take away people's guns.

Heston did exactly as instructed, telling the crowd that Gore had called to remind everyone he is not against guns. The crowd roared with laughter.

The 2000 presidential election was also significant for the NRA because it marked the first national election in which the NRA finally dispensed with any pretense of neutrality between the Democrats and the Republicans. Previously, the NRA had backed candidates from either party who had a strong progun record. This time the NRA opened its coffers primarily to the Republican Party.

...


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_153_25/ai_75211999

And this is an American Handgunner article....

[MicaelS]

19. Three words

Assault Weapons Ban.

Gore supported the Schumer-Feinstein-Metzenbaum-Clinton (hint, hint, ALL Democrats) AWB, that is trying to take people's guns away, period. He had chances to denounce it, but did he, no? Gore (and Clinton) made the same foolish mistake many other pols have made. They equated gun ownership only with hunting. They like many other advocates of gun control have long misrepresented that gun ownership is only about hunting, which it isn't. And they have always claimed they aren't trying to take hunters guns away. But, there are 80,000,000 gun owners in the US and only 15,000,000 registered hunters. In other words 4 out of 5 of Americans do not hunt. The Second Amendment is not about hunting, or target shooting or gun collecting. It's about self-defense.

[Junkdrawer]

21. So you're telling me WHY the NRA is Republican. Good to see some honesty....

The NRA wants Assault Weapons...

Most rank-and-file Democrats don't...

Republicans jumped for the NRA money first and they got the lion's share.

Democrats then figured out the anti-gun stance of it's membership was soft, so they too went for the NRA money.

[MicaelS]

23. Do you even know WHAT the AWB banned?

n/t

[Edweird]

35. "Most rank-and-file Democrats don't..."

What (other than projection) are you basing that on?

[Dogtown]

27. So let them claw at each other

I don't see how throwing money into the Litigation Wishing Well is going to trump a SCOTUS decision.

It's a done-deal. Fait accompli. This cherry's been plucked.

Before the (non-republican) gun-guys celebrate too much, though, remember: This decision isn't about guns. Not even a little bit.

This is probably the most evenly matched issue of each party's cherished platforms but it breaks down in the population to about

20% = HATE guns

20% = LOVE guns

60% = DON'T give a rat's ass.

(before some straw-clutching, pugnacious PostWarrior demands a citation, I made those figures up. it's probably more like 10-10-80, but it doesn't matter if it's 45-45-10).

I propose about the same ratio within our party, as well as the population here at DU.


HERE'S WHAT IT'S REALLY ABOUT!

This is the pre-election demonstration to the "hard right" that stuffing the Supreme Court has finally been accomplished. If they can end the controversy on this issue (which most American's don't care about, hence; no big commotion) they can prove to their gun-supporting members (the uber-right, BTW. We have gun-enthusiasts, they have gun-nuts) (OK, we have gun-nuts, too, but I like ours better) they:

$$$$$ demonstrate their ability to define the constitution in any way their constituents wish. $$$$$

They can redefine the separation of church/state. They can define marriage without losing an attempt to ratify an amendment. They can outlaw abortion. They can demand equalk time for Creation Theory/ID.

They have demonstrated the ability to hand this country over to the extreme right-wing.



This decision isn't going to change anything much about gun use. The same folks who owned guns before will own them now. Do you think that 85% of the DC population went out saturday morning to purchase guns?

The same people who carried guns before will carry them now. For you non-gunners, those cool rigs you see on TV detectives, that lump on the traffic cops hip; those chafe like a bear. Those willing to put up with it in today's society, which is *not* old-west dangerous, are the same folks who always have.

The only thing that's changed is HOPE. The religious zealots, the xenophobes, the racists, the homophobes, the misogynists; they'll all see a new ray of hope beaming from the clouds; "NOE WE WILL PWNED YOU!!1! SERIESLY!"


George W. bush is a tool, as is McCaine. Our real rulers are *not* stupid and they *do* know how to whip up a mob.

[beevul]

31. NRA gives endorsement to (DEMOCRAT) Schweitzer

NRA gives endorsement to Schweitzer
By CHARLES S. JOHNSON
Gazette State Bureau

HELENA - The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund on Tuesday endorsed Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer's re-election, citing his strong support of the rights of gun owners, hunters and sportsmen.

"He's just done a great job defending the Second Amendment, hunting, fishing (and) access on the part of the public to public lands," NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said in a phone interview after a press conference in Billings.

"He also had legislation that secured $10 million for public access. He ended the moratorium on the buffalo hunt after 16 years."

Schweitzer, a lifetime NRA member, received an A rating from the NRA.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/05/28/news...

Seems like an organization that "Openly tilts towards the Republican Party" wouldn't be endorsing Democrats, at least to me.

[AngryAmish]

30. Brady campaign lawyers need new boats!! Donate TODAY!

[Spouting Horn]

12. The Brady's are Republican

and they have been contributing to Democratic losses since they began their "campaign."

[virginia mountainman]

20. I come here to hang with my progressive freinds...

I don't want to be bombarded with Republican fundraisers...

Take that shit over to FREEPER land, where it belongs..

This forum is for Progressives, and Democrats, NOT RETHUGS...

[Junkdrawer]

22. How very Rovian of you....

The NRA tilts openly toward Republicans...

The Brady Campaign is non-partisan...

So, the pro-NRA posters accuse the Brady Campaign of being Republican. :wtf:

[virginia mountainman]

24. It is not an accusation, if it is TRUE...

Just so you know...The NRA has contributed FAR MORE MONEY, to Democrats, than the Brady Campaign has..

Take your rolling, freeper road show, somewhere else please. This is a forum where we support the Bill of Rights....not where Republicans meet, to make strategy and raise money.

Don't make me hit the "ALERT" button....

[Junkdrawer]

25. Because the Brady Campaign is non-partisan....n/t

[virginia mountainman]

26. BULLSHIT...

Why is it that when Democrats, listen to them, We loose ELECTIONS??

I tell you why, Sara Brady, REPUBLICAN...Paul Helmke, REPUBLICAN, Mike Bloomberg, REPUBLICAN...

Why are we surprised, when we loose, when we are taking orders from these likes of THOSE??

Ask yourself one thing...

Why would Sara Brady, and Paul Helmke, who are Republicans, want DEMOCRATS, to take politically self-destructive positions??

Have you forgot 1994, and our massive losses? Took us 12 years to regain the congress, and the #1 reason for those losses was because too many Democrats was taking election advice from Sara Brady, who IS, a Republican.

[The Straight Story]

28. They probably donate more to repubs because of people like those here on the left

that want to ban guns.

I hear people on the right want to control a woman's body - but some people here on the left want to control everyone's body, from smoking to guns to seat belts to what others eat - I don't like control freaks at all, no matter what party they try to hide behind.

[beevul]

33. A voice of reason...

"I don't like control freaks at all, no matter what party they try to hide behind."

The voice of the mainstream, right there.


Well said, thank you TSS.

[MicaelS]

34. Excellent point, thank you.

I'm sick and tired of authoritarians of all stripes.

[spanone]

17. yep, gun nuts are everywhere

[Blue_Tires]

29. good ol' NRA

the country is going down the toilet (thanks in no small part to whackjob politicians they have helped elect on no other virtue than their 'gun-friendliness'), but at least the good people of Morton Grove (pop. 22451) can legally arm themselves...

FFS...if the NRA only came out against the war, bush would pull everyone out by the end of the week!

[Blue_Tires]

36. and in other news, our 'friends' at the NRA are shelling out $40 mil to smear Obama

http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/01/nra-to-launch-40-mil-fall-offensive/