Want some torture with your peanuts? Airline Passenger Bracelet

[Ichingcarpenter]

Just when you thought you’ve heard it all...

A senior government official with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has expressed great interest in a so-called safety bracelet that would serve as a stun device, similar to that of a police Taser®. According to this promotional video found at the Lamperd Less Lethal website, the bracelet would be worn by all airline passengers.

This bracelet would:

• take the place of an airline boarding pass

• contain personal information about the traveler

• be able to monitor the whereabouts of each passenger and his/her luggage

• shock the wearer on command, completely immobilizing him/her for several minutes

The Electronic ID Bracelet, as it’s referred to as, would be worn by every traveler “until they disembark the flight at their destination.” Yes, you read that correctly. Every airline passenger would be tracked by a government-funded GPS, containing personal, private and confidential information, and that it would shock the customer worse than an electronic dog collar if he/she got out of line?

According to a letter from DHS official, Paul S. Ruwaldt of the Science and Technology Directorate, office of Research and Development, to the inventor whom he had previously met with, he wrote, “To make it clear, we are interested in…the immobilizing security bracelet, and look forward to receiving a written proposal.” The letterhead, in case you were wondering, came from the DHS office at the William J. Hughes Technical Center at the Atlantic City International Airport, or the Federal Aviation Administration headquarters.

In another part of the letter, Mr. Ruwaldt confirmed, “It is conceivable to envision a use to improve air security, on passenger planes.”



http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/video_gallery.asp?video=http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/video/EMDsafetybracelet.flv&title=


http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/#again

[baldguy]

1. Only if Paul gets one too.

Every time someone gets shocked inappropriately, he gets shocked too.

[AnneD]

5. I'll put one on....

when he does. God we are being reduced to the level of cattle only the prods are different. :wtf:

I got a recommendation for you....let's save a shit load of money and do away with Homeland Security.

[lonestarnot]

10. and the homeland label

[MuseRider]

14. Look for...the homeland label

when you are boarding and airplane or bus............

That little jingle just popped right up when I read your post.

This really is not a topic to make light of so just let me say, over my dead body will anyone put something on me that they can use to control me. Never. I would rather be shot than submit to something like that.

[lonestarnot]

16. I have a companion ticket that needs to be used soon, damned if I would ever allow them to put that

on my kid. Do babies have to wear it too?

[MuseRider]

19. Jeffrey! Jeffrey! Jeffrey!!!

I guess they probably might, you know. For the bombs in their diapers? Little terraists I tell ya! I will tell them, shocking and hurting a baby is not a good way to make them stop crying.

[lonestarnot]

21. Who's Jeffrey? LOL

[MuseRider]

24. Bill Cosby routine

about a kid on a flight named Jeffrey who was a terror.

[lonestarnot]

25. One I have forgotten!

[populistdriven]

35. I was shocked at the missing link to the Onion at the bottom.

This is a real proposal? Are they insane?

[kay1864]

58. Well there is a link to the Washington Times...

Not as funny as the Onion, but sometimes just as fictional

[Ichingcarpenter]

62. The other links in the article add up....... so what are you saying?

[populistdriven]

88. shocked as in its for real and not an onion joke

[Greybnk48]

61. "I'm 4 years old!!" One of my favorite bits ever. n/t

[woo me with science]

69. Here is the youtube video of Jeffrey.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0cYJUqJys

[MuseRider]

85. Thanks, n/t

[truedelphi]

89. Yeah if we really needed Homeland security their

policies and proposals would involve more than really stupid things like us having to take our shoes off before boarding, no liquids, etc.

[Poll_Blind]

2. I would much rather sit in an individual cage aboard an aircraft and....

..have to urinate and defecate into a pot than have to wear a hack-prone stun bracelet which could immobilize and possibly kill me.

  But nobody makes a killing off chamber pots, if you get my drift.

PB

[baldguy]

17. Don't give them any ideas!

[populistdriven]

38. and when these will get hacked and some 15 year old script kiddy lays out 200 people for fun

we will need autonomous intelligent bracelets that monitor biometrics for suspicious intent.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

3. This country is getting is sinking more and more into Dystopia.

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. Why stop wearing them when you get off the plane?

Just bring em to work, to school, at home in the bedroom and
DON'T FORGET THE MALL!!!!

[Muttocracy]

44. hey, then it can track my shopping and internet use too!!!1111 nt

[TBF]

86. You really think they're not doing that already? nt

[Muttocracy]

91. oh yes, but so much easier with a single card/chip/bracelet/whatever

[gateley]

6. That is beyond horrifying. Like a sci-fi nightmarish film. nt

[ChazII]

9. Exactly.

A never ending nightmare.

[KamaAina]

75. It was sci-fi when Octavia Butler wrote about it in "Parable of the Talents"

it was a collar rather than a bracelet, but it worked on the same principle. A cult called "Christian America" used them to control women. :scared:

[ColbertWatcher]

7. A coke machine said "Not Sure" was in the vacinity...

Idiocracy here we come!

[fudge stripe cookays]

8. Amtrak anyone?

Unbelievable. :eyes:

[Edweird]

11. You gotta be fucking kidding me. This is from "the Onion", right?

How completely nuts. Unbelievable. What's next? Handcuffs with waist and ankle shackles? Oh and don't forget the sensory deprivation hood and earmuffs.

I bet you that there will be some kind of "pre-clearance" that first classers could get to avoid this, and this becomes just another degrading humiliation reserved for those with too few zero's in their bank accounts.

Edited for clarity.

[JohnnyLib2]

12. NOW, I'm terra-ized.

:banghead:

[Olney Blue]

13. Why don't they just go ahead an implant a tracking device in our skull.

[MiniMe]

20. Don't give them any ideas

They would probably recommend that too

[csziggy]

37. The Cerebrum Communicator

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uUa3np4CKC4

[NYC Liberal]

42. They're already trying

Albeit in the UK, but it won't be long before it's here. And it starts with prisoners (because it's easy to test these things on people who really have very few rights), before it comes to all of us.

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2207145/government-considers-rfid-tags

[druidity33]

77. actually

the pilot program was for dogs and cats...

phase II has begun.



:scared:

[ColbertWatcher]

79. Phase 2 was OnStar. n/t

[Warpy]

15. The first thing Obama needs to do is disband DHS

and put all their deep thinkers into the loony bin.

This is one of the sickest things I've ever heard.

[Initech]

49. Damn straight.

This shit sucks... and the people who put us through all the crap we have to endure at airports are the ones who fly on private jets anyways. Fuck them.

[IDemo]

18. Next step: Total Passenger Anesthetization

They should seriously consider a remake of the movie "Brazil". We seem to be living the outrages it depicted more and more each day.

[IDemo]

22. Another of the creator's inventions pictured here ->

Sure, this scooter looks silly. And the idea that it could frighten you with a helmet wearing officer riding it seems silly as well. You would be wrong. The T3 Mobile Defender is something that should worry you. It comes equipped with a powerful non-lethal air gun that could kill you dead if it hit you in the head. So, in order to avoid such a scene, the gun is equipped with a holographic sight system that makes it super accurate.

An eyepiece shows a red target dot, which is transmitted to a monitor, then to the gun. Barry Lamperd, the creator, says that as long as the holographic sight is on target, you can’t miss. That’s easy to say from his perspective. I hope he’s right, because they plan to sell the scooter to the US Army for crowd control situations. (In Iraq? Or are they expecting us to get uppity?) Expect to see it cruising your neighborhood before too long as well.

http://www.slipperybrick.com/tag/barry-lamperd/

[TBF]

87. That inventor is just a fun guy isn't he...

wouldn't you love to invite him to your next party.

[hendo]

23. This is just... damn... nt

[SpiralHawk]

26. Not gonna happen.

The peanuts, I mean

Peanuts have alread been cut out of airline budgets. You Passenger Proles ain't gettin no steenkin free peanuts. Unless, of course, you have a ticket for First Elite Homelander Class. Smirk.

So shut your Noisy Passenger Proles gobs this instant.

Shut up, sit down, and let Homeland Security affix your secure 'Bracelet.'

Remember, Big BushCo & the Homelanders love you, and will keep you 'safe.'

[mopinko]

27. ya know, it sounds insane until

you think about what we already willingly submit to to get on an airplane.

[IDemo]

30. I became one of the unwilling long before 9/11

Although if this did come to pass, I can hear the interview answers already: "I'm just grateful to have a president who cares about protecting us from the terrorists. I think EVERYBODY should wear these ALL the time!"

[mopinko]

34. i hate it. hate to fly.

i grumble the whole way through the maze. i love to travel, but this shit is shit. i drive if at all possible. shame that our passenger trains are left out there begging. i would take trains, but it costs more that the flippin' air fair, and takes forever, too.

[dysfunctional press]

28. and of course a terrorist would NEVER think to just take the bracelet off, right...?

why don't they get those exploding collars like the one they put on ah-nold in 'the running man'...?

[MadMaddie]

29. The Airline industry is already hemmoraging $$$$$$

Alaska doesn't take cash anymore because gasp....the stewards didn't like making change for US currency. So if you don't have a credit card or a bank card you won't be able to buy anything on the plane.

Some airlines are talking about charging for pop/soda etc.

Security sucks and people are sick of the gestapo.

Now the DHS proposes this Nazi like idea...to litterally brand people with a bracelet.

Never mind the concession people who have free access to the airports once they are in.

Never mind the baggage handlers who are allowed to rifle through our unlocked luggage because the DHS is too stupid to figure out how to scan all of our luggage.

Americans not only will not be able to afford flying at the rate it's going, but Americans will simply choose not to fly.

Hey if you want your US industry (with the exception of the Oil industry of course) ruined by the US government go to the DHS...they can help you along the path to failure.

[stillcool]

31. not to worry..

I'm sure another bail-out is on it's way. After all, they are tied to the Defense Industry, so money is no object. Except for the CEO's.

[MadMaddie]

32. Yep,,, bail out the companies that make bad business decisions

but screw the consumer and workers.

[kimmylavin]

33. Hell NO.

Now in order to take a vacation, they want us to submit to the equivalent of a zoo transfer???

[woodsprite]

54. And if it costs over 1K, the monetary transaction is scrutinized. n/t

[unblock]

36. this HELPS the TERRORISTS!

ever lame-brained idea they come up with involves preventing the typical republican moron's teenage kid from hijacking a plane.

yes, the unruly teenager could be jolted into submission and the flight could happily continue without unruly passengers even if the in-flight movie sucks and they run out of johnnie walker.

however, if you're a remotely sophisticated hijacker, then you realize they the government has already done the hard part for you, which is figure out how to control the hostages. now all the terrorist has to do is remove or otherwise defeat their own bracelet and seize control of the bracelet system. this could be accomplished quite easily with the help of someone on the inside.


this is a crowd-control system, not an anti-terrorism system. crowd-control is a part of hijacking, not a part of hijack-prevention.

[Muttocracy]

45. bingo. nt

[undeterred]

39. Liability.

I'm sure they won't allow travellers who are harmed to sue.

[Stinky The Clown]

40. And they differ from the Gestapo ..... how, exactly?

[tblue37]

41. Air travel will soon be a thing of the past. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. These are the actions of fascists, hold it the word is verbotten

If they do that, no more traveling for me... period

[mitchum]

46. When I was 14, I thought living in "Clockwork Orange" would be cool...

now that it is here...it's a goddamn nightmare.

[crimsonblue]

47. AM I the only person

that thinks 9/11 would have been prevented if: 1)we had a competent President that actually read memos stating that "Bin Laden determined to strike the U.S." and 2)securing the cockpit doors would prevent any terrorist from gaining control of the plane, even if this doesn't prevent hijackers from hurting passengers (if push comes to shove, it sucks to be the passengers, but the safety of the plane itself is ultimately more important)

[RC]

50. Oh, they knew about it alright. They knew and helped it along that day.

[Initech]

48. Holy fucking shit.... this is the equivalent of of a dog shock collar.

As if air travel couldn't possibly get any worse... these motherfuckers come along and try to pull shit like this. I hope it never comes to fruition. :grr: :scared: :nuke:

[a la izquierda]

63. Which i don't even use...

on my fucking DOGS!!!

[ForrestGump]

51. Pretty safe bet

that the airlines will find a way to charge an extra fee for the bracelets, too.

[TheWatcher]

52. This Foolishness Has Got To Stop.

What is it going to take?

[symbolman]

53. Voting with our dollars

We need someone to create a website and get millions of signatories to stop this shit cold..

You post something like this, and then have a ton of people sign a pledge that they specifically REFUSE to travel by Air, and back it up by NOT flying so they see the Impact..

You know, in the end WE OWN this Nation and fuckheads like these, because they DO want our Precious Dollars.. Like the Union days of old, we'd best all hang together or surely they will hang us separately :)

We'd best start being Brothers and Sisters or we're all gonna die, or travel in cattle cars for real.

[MiniMe]

55. What airlines serve peanuts anymore?

or any snack for that matter? I thought the airlines had all turned no-frill. No lugggage, no food, no drink, unless you pay for it.

[a la izquierda]

64. I just flew home from Puerto Rico on Sunday...

we got a bunch of food on Continental. FWIW.

[MorningGlow]

93. We got Soylent Green on a cross-country flight (AirTran)

Okay, they called them "biscotti", but they weren't fooling anyone. Everyone got three of these individually wrapped flat, dry things whether they wanted them or not. Three times, if I recall correctly. They just kept flinging them at us.
:puke:

[Beausoleil]

56. Life imitates art!

[baldguy]

66. 575 quatloos to fly to Boston? You're out of yer fricken' mind!

[Beausoleil]

70. Boston? Ha, your destination is

Triskelion!

[crickets]

76. GMTA. "Collars of Obedience" were the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread. -nt

[baldguy]

81. Yeah, and they'd probably stuff 60 people into some turboprop to save some money.

[knitter4democracy]

57. I already wear a bracelet, thanks.

I have to wear my medical alert bracelet, as do many of the rest of us, and we don't need another one, thanks. Especially not one that could kill us.

[windoe]

59. We are not supposed to get angry

when the quality of our lives has been ruined. Healthcare, travel, cost of living, food supply all are going down the toilet. Does anyone here wonder when people are just going to have enough? If these draconian methods are put into place, there's going to be an eruption, people dragged away, and I am sure there are policies and jails just waiting for this to happen.

I want to have hope, but WTF!! How are we supposed to have hope when these f*cking hi tech devices are being produced to be used against Americans? Sorry, I took the red pill and there is no antidote.

[undeterred]

60. They're still giving peanuts?

Or is that only with the torture bracelet?

[datasuspect]

65. "tattoo? where's your tattoo? why come you don't have one of these?"

"UNSCANNABLE!!!!!!"

[ProgressiveFool]

67. I think we should put these on Republican congressmen when they enter a public restroom /nt

[dembotoz]

68. but where would you place it and would they enjoy it

[Prefer]

71. Gamesters of Triskelion anyone?

[ArbustoBuster]

72. This Paul S. Ruwaldt guy is apparently a danger to us all.

In a sensible society, he would be fired from the DHS immediately, and he would be barred from ever working in government again. (He should also probably get psychological testing.)

[MadrasT]

73. Eeek.

Well, the device is for real, at least there's a patent for it...

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0244613.html

Nope. I wouldn't even put one of those on my dog. If I had a dog. But I'm just saying... if I had a dog, I wouldn't put one on him.

Eeek.

No way, no how, is anyone making me wear on of those. If it comes to that, just shoot me and get it over with, because I don't want to live in that society. :grr:

[MadrasT]

74. Another patent

Here's another one that doesn't even pretend to be for "prisoner" use...

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6933851/description.html

[ihavenobias]

78. Great title! n/t

[Occam Bandage]

80. I'm thinking they'd be buying that one for transporting criminals and such about, much like

a house-arrest ankle bracelet. Sticking that on every passenger would be enormously expensive and inconvenient.

[PeaceNikki]

82. That headline is total bullshit

They don't give you peanuts anymore!!

x(

[QueenOfCalifornia]

83. Why not just

use the no-bark collar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wU2sfGF1do&feature=related
:shrug:

[insleeforprez]

84. At least they're getting creative.

Ick.

[Connonym]

90. Scary, scary stuff

I hate that I don't believe we can trust our government to not abuse this. Hell, I hate that our government would ever even CONSIDER something this heinous. What the hell has happened to us? Like sheep to the slaughter we just let it happen.

[frog92969]

92. "sheep to the slaughter"

yup