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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:01 PM
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Sex Crimes in the White House
To "warmongers" and "traitors," kindly add "perverts" to what history will call members of the Bush administration.





Sex Crimes in the White House

By Naomi Wolf, Huffington Post
Posted on July 7, 2008

Sex crime has a telltale signature, even when those directing the outrages are some of the most powerful men and women in the United States. How extraordinary, then, to learn that one of the perpetrators of these crimes, Condoleezza Rice, has just led the debate in a special session of the United Nations Security Council on the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war.

I had a sense of deja vu when I saw the photos that emerged in 2004 from Abu Ghraib prison. Even as the Bush administration was spinning the notion that the torture of prisoners was the work of "a few bad apples" low in the military hierarchy, I knew that we were seeing evidence of a systemic policy set at the top. It's not that I am a genius. It's simply that, having worked at a rape crisis center and been trained in the basics of sex crime, I have learned that all sex predators go about things in certain recognizable ways.

We now know that the torture of prisoners was the result of a policy set in the White House by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Rice -- who actually chaired the torture meetings. The Pentagon has also acknowledged that it had authorized sexualized abuse of detainees as part of interrogation practices to be performed by female operatives. And documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union have Rumsfeld, in his own words, checking in on the sexualized humiliation of prisoners.

The sexualization of torture from the top basically turned Abu Ghraib and Guantnamo Bay into an organized sex-crime ring in which the trafficked sex slaves were US-held prisoners. Looking at the classic S and M nature of some of this torture, it is hard not to speculate that someone setting policy was aroused by all of this. And Phillipe Sands' impeccably documented Torture Team: Rumsfeld's Memo and the Betrayal of American Values, now proves that sex crime was authorized and, at least one source reports, eroticized: Diane Beaver, the Staff Judge Advocate at Guantanamo who signed off on many torture techniques, told Sands about brainstorming sessions that included the use of sexual tension, which was "culturally taboo, disrespectful, humiliating and potentially unexpected."

"These brainstorming meetings at Guantanamo produced animated discussion," writes Sands. "Who has the glassy eyes?" Beaver asked herself as she surveyed the men around the room, thirty or more of them. She was invariably the only woman in the room, keeping control of the boys. The younger men would get excited, agitated, even: "You could almost see their dicks getting hard as they got new ideas" (reported Beaver). A wan smile crossed Beaver's face: "And I said to myself, you know what, I don't have a dick to get hard, I can stay detached." (Sands, p 63)

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http://www.alternet.org/rights/90657/?ses=42db1252626791dd9aec508b0b7eac35



Perverts and warmongers and traitors. Who knew?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:05 PM
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:20 PM
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5. The sickest thing about Bush father and son is their unconcern for human life (GRAPHIC warning).
During the first Gulf War:





WAR CRIMES

A Report on United States War Crimes Against Iraq to the Commission of Inquiry for the International War Crimes Tribunal


by Ramsey Clark and Others



Incinerated body of an Iraqi soldier on the "Highway of Death," a name the press has given to the road from Mutlaa, Kuwait, to Basra, Iraq. U.S. planes immobilized the convoy by disabling vehicles at its front and rear, then bombing and straffing the resulting traffic jam for hours. More than 2,000 vehicles and tens of thousands of charred and dismembered bodies littered the sixty miles of highway. The clear rapid incineration of the human being suggests the use of napalm, phosphorus, or other incindiary bombs. These are anti-personnel weapons outlawed under the 1977 Geneva Protocols. This massive attack occurred after Saddam Hussein announced a complete troop withdrawl from Kuwait in compliance with UN Resolution 660. Such a massacre of withdrawing Iraqi soldiers violates the Geneva Convention of 1949, common article 3, which outlaws the killing of soldiers who "are out of combat." There are, in addition, strong indications that many of those killed were Palestinian and Kuwaiti civilians trying to escape the impending seige of Kuwait City and the return of Kuwaiti armed forces. No attempt was made by U.S. military command to distinguish between military personnel and civilians on the "highway of death." The whole intent of international law with regard to war is to prevent just this sort of indescriminate and excessive use of force.
(Photo Credit: © 1991 Kenneth Jarecke / Contact Press Images)

"It has never happened in history that a nation that has won a war has been held accountable for atrocities committed in preparing for and waging that war. We intend to make this one different. What took place was the use of technological material to destroy a defenseless country. From 125,000 to 300,000 people were killed... We recognize our role in history is to bring the transgressors to justice." -- Ramsey Clark

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http://deoxy.org/wc/warcrime.htm



The slaughted Iraqi army was made up mostly of conscripts -- draftees -- who never did anything to hurt the United States or American people.

The little turd from Crawford didn't fall far from the tree.
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Super Soaker Sniper Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:30 PM
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6. I can tell you, The smell on that highway was awful!
I will never forget it. A couple of years ago I drove by an accident scene where one of the cars had caught fire and a young man was burned to death inside. I caught the scent briefly and I could not get it out my brain for days. I know it was not there, but in my mind, I could not rid myself of it. I could smell it on my clothes, in my car. Just like in Iraq over a decade before. Funny how the human brain supresses stuff like this and then some random event opens the floodgates.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:39 PM
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8. I was a reporter during Gulf War I -- on the home front, so to speak...
I wrote feature stories for our paper, profiling the men and women in uniform. We'd describe their missions and assignments. We'd also post mailing addresses so the good folks could write and send goodies. A couple of the guys ended up getting married to their pen-pals. One fellow called to thank me...

What he related, however, was that the horror of the war was not communicated at all to the people at home. He was aboard a helicopter that came through after the A-10s and the fighter-bombers had attacked the fleeing Iraqis. He told me there was nobody left alive. Every car, bus, truck -- everything that had been moving -- was destroyed and their occupants incinerated. Like you, Super Soaker Sniper, he said the smells and sights were things he never would forget. The young soldier told me because, he said, he wanted to make sure the truth got out.

Thank you for your service. Thanks also for giving a damn, Sir.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:03 PM
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10. and new york after 9-11.
i was there the end of october, and it smacked me in the face when i got off the plane in newark. i knew instantly that it was not just another smelly day in new jersey. it is a smell that you never forget.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:32 PM
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11. What a horrible thing to live through.
I'm so sorry.

Thanks for telling us, we need to know these things to prevent them from happening again. Such as we can. Sigh.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:48 PM
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16. I'm sorry that you had to experience that.
I have met other people who told me about their experiences on the Highway of Death. They talked about having camp among dead bodies. They talked about the rats and the smell. They told me that another war would be horrible because the first Gulf War was not the way that the U.S. media portrayed it.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:17 PM
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34. I've only experienced that smell once, and it stayed with me for months.
It was just like you said - you can't get rid of it. It's the smell of tragedy, and nightmares.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:54 PM
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9. I recall seeing images of the Highway of Death...

a long line of bombed out cars and burned bodies like that above, and many of us wonder why so many Iraqis hate us and want us out of their country. The stench of hubris is almost as bad.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:57 AM
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22. Brings this quote to mind:
"The Gulf War ... was made popular by an immense propaganda barrage unleashed by the Pentagon, the media, and government, creating an ideological milieu in which 45 percent of the population said it would be prepared to use nuclear weapons against Iraq. Military actions were, transformed into a grotesque national spectacle, a great celebration of war-making." ~ Carl Boggs

Yay freedumb!!!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:21 AM
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20. "You can stop that thinking right now." - Jeff 'White House' Gannon (R)
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 05:22 AM by SpiralHawk
"We don't need any of you lib-ruls putting two and two together. Sneer."

- Jeff Gannon (R)
Official Bush White House B & D Male Escort
Boasting 200 visits to Commander AWOL's lair,
according to the official Secret Service logs.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:41 AM
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25. and why was Mr. Gannon's access to the WH never investigated by the media?
They sure went after Clinton w a venegence, but when it came to ole "military stud" Gukert and his access, they retreated faster than GWB in a national guard uniform.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:08 PM
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2. 'our' sex crimes are better than 'their' sex crimes...i'm sure
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:33 PM
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7. The sexual exploitation at Abu Ghraib was observed at the White House.
Isn't that the bottom line of the recent reports that Monkey and Crew watched the goings-on -- whether on tape or in real-time?

Here's one fine artist who gets it...



'Bush at Abu Ghraib': Peter Saul's colorful painting features President George W. Bush and an Iraqi victim.



Peter Saul at the Orange County Museum of Art

The California-born artist's retrospective includes unsettling works on history and politics.

ORANGE County Museum of Art


By Christopher Knight, Times Art Critic
July 4, 2008

Peter Saul is some kind of national treasure. Just what kind of national treasure is hard to say.

Perhaps that's because his best paintings refuse to be ingratiating, while the tides of popular culture that wash over us like a daily tsunami are all about gaining our favor. He's a Pop artist, but he doesn't play by the usual rules.

Saul wields his brush in ways certainly meant to get a viewer to look at his pictures long and hard, using complex color and refined form in sophisticated, eye-grabbing ways. But the contemptible, despicable and even humiliating are what you're likely to encounter in his imagery. The clanging dissonance between hot form and chilling content can be oddly riveting.

Nine feet wide and 6 1/2 feet tall, the rectangular format's aspect-ratio is roughly the same as TV. Russian strongman Joseph Stalin is dressed as a Soviet general but has a pair of six-guns blazing, like something out of a John Wayne western.

Screaming bullets rip gaping holes in the floating heads of helmeted Nazi soldiers, who are smashed against the right-hand canvas edge, even tearing one or two in half. The Germans return fire, but it's limp and ineffectual. These goggle-eyed soldiers are goofy sad sacks, like refugees from "Hogan's Heroes," while big-shouldered Joe fills more than half the imposing canvas. The implacable superman is a colossus astride a ferocious battle, whose outcome is not in doubt.

CONTINUED...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-saul4-2008jul04,0,7227377.story



Explaining impeachment over a blow job will be piece of cake for America's parents, compared to the depravities of the Bush administration.
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:15 PM
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3. And we wonder why the rest of the world...
think we uncivilized bullies.

But then when they refuse to testify we (Pelosi) will just say OK nevermind.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:53 PM
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12. The 'W' Stands for 'War Criminal.'


Nat Hentoff and I agree with you, World Citizen:



The ‘W.’ Stands for ‘War Criminal’

Sunday, June 29th, 2008
By Nat Hentoff

In a June 6 letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey—largely ignored by a press immersed in the future of Hillary Clinton—56 Democrats in the House of Representatives asked for “an immediate investigation with the appointment of a special counsel to determine whether actions taken by the President, his Cabinet, and other Administration officials are in violation of the War Crimes Act (18 U.S.C. 2441) . . . and other U.S. and international laws.”

This isn’t front-page news?

The letter began with a brief account of the notorious facts about Abu Ghraib (”sexual exploitation and torture”) and Guantánamo (”an independent investigation by the International Committee of the Red Cross documented several . . . acts of torture . . . including soaking a prisoner’s head in alcohol and lighting it on fire”). Nor was “coercive interrogation” in Afghanistan omitted: “In October 2005, The New York Times reported that three detainees were killed during interrogations in Afghanistan and Iraq by CIA agents or CIA contractors.”

This is not a call for articles of impeachment. Bush will soon be gone, and the new president and Congress have far too much to do to get mired in that quicksand. These are grave criminal charges, and since international crimes are involved as well as the U.S. War Crimes Act and the Anti-Torture Act, other nations whose laws include “universal jurisdiction” could prosecute.

But why would House Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers Jr. and Intelligence Committee members Jerrold Nadler (my congressional representative) and Jan Schakowsky—among other signers—make such dramatic and historic charges of “war crimes” now, after most congressional Democrats have not shown the same interest? House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, for example, is not on the list of signers; she and Senate Democratic majority leader Harry Reid have never, in their opposition to the administration, come anywhere near these shocking accusations.

CONTINUED...

http://rinf.com/alt-news/politics/the-w-stands-for-war-criminal/3999/



Hentoff also points out some of these lawyers now have even bigger jobs in the badministration, like David Addington.

PS: A most hearty welcome to DU, World Citizen.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:40 AM
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24. Peloisi was kept well informed and is as guilty as the Administration IMO
That is why she is blocking any and all investigations to the best of her ability. She went along with it all.
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 03:51 PM
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35. yes, this makes more sense than...
the theory that she is being threatened or blackmailed.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:18 PM
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4. We've always known there were perverts in the "top echelons"
But THIS administration seems to have given them free rein.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 06:26 PM
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13. Two Psychiatrists Look at the Bush Administration


From what we can see, in layman's terms, George Walker Bush is a dry-drunk, crazy monkey.



Two Psychiatrists Look at the Bush Administration

A summary by Jack Dresser, Ph.D., with selected excerpts from two books:
Bush on the Couch by Justin A. Frank, M.D.
Clinical Professor, Department of Psychiatry, George Washington University
and
The Superpower Syndrome by Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.
Distinguished Visiting Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry, Harvard University


Psychiatrist Jerrold Post, M.D., founder of the CIA’s Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior, stated, “the leader who cannot adapt to external realities because he adheres to an internally programmed life script...has displaced his private needs upon the state.” Applied psychoanalysis is a discipline used routinely by intelligence agencies since early in World War II to identify such distortions and predict political behavior through psychological profiles of foreign leaders. Although lacking the data of direct doctor-patient interaction, such analyses have far greater external data available to draw upon. Dr. Frank has applied these methods to George W. Bush. Dr. Lifton focuses on the theme of grandiosity and unresolved personal self-doubt projected into our foreign policy.

A Sense of Entitlement

A lifelong “sense of entitlement” has been exhibited by Mr. Bush, described by Washington psychoanalyst Justin Frank. Dr. Frank has published a comprehensive study of Mr. Bush’s personality, based upon his many public statements, public actions, and the historical record provided by biographers, journalists, and others who have known him well and observed him closely over many years. Specifically, Mr. Bush feels and acts entitled to disregard the laws, rules and expectations governing ordinary people.

SNIP...

Aggression and Cruelty

This is a lifelong pattern. As a child, little George blew up frogs with firecrackers inserted into their bodies. Lacking scholastic and athletic abilities, he used unkind teasing in school. In college, he hazed new fraternity pledges with branding irons on the buttocks. As Governor he mocked death-row inmates and smirked at their executions. As a political campaigner, he relies heavily on smug ridicule and mockery of opponents.

The smirk – one of Mr. Bush’s characteristic expressions that has worried his political handlers – is a telltale indication of sadism. It reveals pleasure in inflicting or observing pain, defeat or discomfort in others while attempting to suppress more overt and unbecoming expressions of his pleasure. He is a profoundly angry, destructive man who, in Dr. Frank’s words, “needs to break things.”


SNIP...

Adult Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

Easily mistaken for resoluteness, Mr. Bush’s impulsiveness, snap decisions, and disinterest in abstractions or complexities are all suggestive of adult ADHD. He is impatient and easily frustrated, with poor control of his emotions. On two known occasions, he has driven his car through property barriers in fits of temper. And of course, the continuing indications of dyslexia: Dr. Frank observes, “He may seem decisive, but his behavior represents the fall-back position of someone trying to manage the anxiety of not being able to think clearly.”

SNIP...

Untreated alcoholism.

Mr. Bush displays common characteristics of a “dry drunk,” struggling to protect self-esteem and cope with anxiety without the liquid crutch. Symptoms include inflated self-confidence, judgmental intolerance, denial of responsibility, avoidance of introspection, simplistic thinking, and compulsive daily habits that remove him from responsibility and stress. Without treatment, the alcohol is removed without the “ism.” Instead, self-esteem is now protected by his born-again Christianity, which permits escape from accountability for his past while avoiding the self-examination and restitution of a 12-step program. Many of his actions are “dry” efforts to reduce anxiety by avoiding his inner world. In Dr. Frank’s words, “Throughout his life, George W. Bush has taken many detours from the path to self-knowledge.”

SNIP...

The Overall Diagnosis: Megalomania

CONTINUED...

http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/psychoanalysis.htm



You know it, Canuckistanian. I know it. Health care professionals know it. George Walker Bush is insane.

Why Congress doesn't do anything to stop him is the mystery.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:19 PM
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14. Let's hope he gets the help he needs - in The Hague
And as for Cheney - he's beyond help.

All they can do in his case is remove all power, sharp objects and writing instruments from him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:43 PM
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:53 AM
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21. Monkey in the middle.


A miserable failure.

PS: ¿Como handa', Company? ¿To' bien?

Nosotros, bastante bien. Appreciando familia y el pais.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:26 AM
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17. Pukey nutball evil freaks!
:puke:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:50 AM
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26. Gen.Taguba: ‘The current administration has committed war crimes’ and needs to ‘be held to account.’
The ARE evil.



Taguba: ‘The current administration has committed war crimes’ and needs to ‘be held to account.’

In the preface to a report by Physicians for Human Rights on the “medical evidence of torture by the U.S.,” former Abu Ghraib investigator ret. Army Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba writes that President Bush “authorized a systematic regime of torture” that has stained “our national honor.” Taguba, who first spoke out publicly in June 2007, bluntly accuses the Bush administration of committing war crimes:
    After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts, and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes. The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.


The report found that medical examinations of 11 former detainees revealed “scars and other injuries consistent with their accounts of beatings, electric shocks, shackling and, in at least one case, sodomy.”

SOURCE w LINKS:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/19/taguba-war-crimes/



When someone INTENTIONALLY harms another person -- that's EVIL.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:33 AM
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29. And Nancy Pelosi's staff has been directed to put callers through to her COMMENT LINE!
COMMENT LINE! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:05 AM
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18. K&R
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:23 AM
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28. Now that is a most appropriate card. Here's what their offspring should wear at Halloween...


Thanks for giving a damn, tomeboy!

The day's coming when these treasonous and perverted turds won't be safe anywhere.



The day can't get here soon enough.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:48 AM
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31. An Abu Ghraib Halloween costume!
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 09:57 AM by tomeboy
That is too funny! America is nuts!

Thank you for your excellent post.

I posted the Bush&Dick Xmas card last Christmas and my thread got locked. :D






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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:17 AM
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19. The k and the r
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 05:35 AM by SpiralHawk
Thank heavens someone is doing some thinking and reporting, even if the corporate media continues to willfully avert and distract America's eyes.

Thank you, Naomi W.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:54 PM
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33. Soldier Described White House Interest - Staff Requested Data From Abu Ghraib
Too little. Too late. For too, too many.

Corporate McPravda made sure the torture story got buried.

Occassionaly an article got through, like this one from 2004 that started to get at the big picture.



Soldier Described White House Interest

Staff Requested Data From Abu Ghraib, Probers Told


By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 9, 2004; Page A03

The head of the interrogation center at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq told an Army investigator in February that he understood some of the information being collected from prisoners there had been requested by “White House staff,” according to an account of his statement obtained by The Washington Post.

Lt. Col. Steven L. Jordan, an Army reservist who took control of the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center on Sept. 17, 2003, said a superior military intelligence officer told him the requested information concerned “any anti-coalition issues, foreign fighters, and terrorist issues.”

The Army investigator, Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, asked Jordan whether it concerned “sensitive issues,” and Jordan said, “Very sensitive. Yes, sir,” according to the account, which was provided by a government official.

The reference by Jordan to a White House link with the military’s scandal-plagued intelligence-gathering effort at the prison was not explored further by Taguba, whose primary goal at that time was to assess the scope of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. The White House was unable to provide an immediate explanation.

During the period in question, the last quarter of 2003, virtually every senior military officer in Iraq, as well as at the Pentagon, was intensely interested in determining who was behind the rising insurgency in Iraq and using that information to squelch it. But no reference has previously been made in the publicly available Abu Ghraib investigative documents to a special interest by White House staff.

The precise role and mission of Jordan, who is still stationed in Iraq and through his attorneys has declined requests to speak with the news media, remains one of the least well understood facets of the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal.

Jordan has been described by other military personnel as playing a key role at Abu Ghraib in overseeing interrogations; they have described him as being deeply involved in an incident on Nov. 24, 2003, when a detainee was confronted in his cell by snarling military dogs, which Taguba deemed a violation of the prisoner’s rights.

CONTINUED...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26814-2004Jun9.html



War is an abomination. I don't know the word for a war when it is conducted for profit and power by madmen.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:03 AM
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23. And Don't Remember We've Lowered Standards...
In order to keep the "surge" surging, the military has lowered who they will accept and then rush them through training and into Iraq. Many slip past background checks or other red flags and I get a feeling that if a recruiter sees a sadistic bastard, all he's thinking is his bonus for signing him up.

The biggest insult that many Iraqis felt about Abu Grahb was the sexual humilitation. If the pictures aren't bad enough, there are plenty of stories of all types of sadistic acts in an attempt to "break" the "A-rab macho" through humiliation. Instead it builds resentment. Who knew?

What a sad state this country has fallen into when we can have an actual discussion where the question "is it "ethical" to force a father to see his daughter being raped" as a legitimate grounds for "interogation".

These crimes alone demand a war crimes tribunal.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:29 AM
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40. Yes, indeed.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:54 AM
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27. Diane BEAVER???????? LMFAO n/t
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:39 AM
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30. Whatever happened to Jeff "Bush BoyToy" Gannon, anyway?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:43 AM
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32. I have been saying on this board, for YEARS..
that Bush is a sadist in the clinical sense, that is, deriving SEXUAL pleasure from the suffering of others. And Rummy, likewise. These two are only the most obvious of the group, IMO.

I said that the sexualized nature of the torture of Iraqi prisoners tells us a lot about what's really going on there. I said that Rummy likes to watch. And, yes, Bush's little "chuckle" when he talks about people dying or being tortured is creepy beyond belief.

There are many ways to torture people that are not sexual in nature. Why, then, the emphasis on sodomy, forcing prisoners to jerk each other off etc? To HUMILIATE them? Don't make me laugh. I think Bush and the boys have been masturbating to those videos for a long time.

Whenever I would post about this it never elicited any discussion of note, so I just figured DUers thought I had an overactive imagination. Nevertheless, every time I look at those most closely surrounding Bush, alarm bells go off. Big time!

Well, finally, it's going mainstream, more or less. I don't currently have use of the DU search function, for my own specific reasons not relevant to this discussion, but anyone can retrieve my posts and see for themselves that I saw it as being about paraphilias, from day-one.




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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:04 PM
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36. Exactly!
These people are much more sick than most realize. Someday it will be common knowledge that depravity ruled the day in this country at the beginning of this century. The horror. the horror.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:05 PM
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37. Pic saved
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:21 PM
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38. Great article, great author.
Though when you wrote Sex Crimes in the White House, this immediately popped into my mind:

Is Dick Cheney on the DC Madam List?

Posted May 24th 2007 9:03AM by Cenk Uygur
Filed under: Breaking News, Scandal, Young Turks, GOP, Dick Cheney

Roll Call is reporting that the DC madam's lawyer is saying Dick Cheney might be on her list of clients. He doesn't say that Cheney is on the list, but he makes a curious statement that he isn't not on the list.


Obviously, this weird double negative raises eyebrows. Was the lawyer asked about a number of different people and stopped on Cheney's name? Did he bring up Cheney's name of his own volition? Does he have another purpose in implying a Cheney relationship?


The implication is clear enough, but, of course, that doesn't mean it's true. These are not exactly the world's most reputable people. And I'm not saying that because she apparently ran a prostitution ring, but because she threatened to reveal the names of all of her clients if they didn't help her with her legal fees. That's just flat out extortion and a really skeevy move. So, who knows if they're playing some game here.


But if Cheney is on that list and he did use the services that were provided and he has been running all of these Republican campaigns on family values, well, then there would be hell to pay. It would be the granddaddy of hypocrisy. It would be the hypocrisy to end all hypocrisy.

http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/05/24/is-dick-cheney-on-the-dc-madam-list/

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:32 PM
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39. This needs to stay in the public eye
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 09:33 PM by SpiralHawk
Until America gets it. The corporate media is not going to do it. That's plain.

Kick for America, and the moral greatness we must now reclaim and reestablish.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:11 PM
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41. This needs to stay in the public eye.
Until America gets it.

Because the corporate media is just not going to tell us the ugly truth about the republicon torture cabal.
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