CONTACT PELOSI! Remind her of her OATH to uphold the LAW.

[BeHereNow]

http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

If she does not pursue Rove for contempt of Congress,
she should be removed.

It's REALLY that simple.
AS I heard Vincent Bugliosi say,
"We can not tolerate two sets of LAW in this country."
BHN

On edit- Mind you, I am not hopeful that Pelosi will actually
DO anything according to the law, but I think we need to let her know
that we are witnessing her criminal complicity and dereliction of duty
as SOTH.
Essentially, if she does nothing about Rove's refusal to comply
with the subpoena, she is clearly guilty of condoning law breaking.
Let her know that WE know that.

[BeHereNow]

1. Kick! You know what to DU!

BHN

[Kolesar]

39. Yeah, sit in your chairs and look at a screen

:sarcasm:

[BeHereNow]

41. Ummm... no, that is not the point of this thread.

The point is to pick up the phone,
send a fax, AND email the bitch and
call her out on not upholding the law
our her congressional oath.
Rove does NOT get a pass on ignoring a subpoena.
Not on our watch.

And she does NOT get a pass for allowing him to
break the law.

BHN

[Kolesar]

42. Bet there are not 10 letters to Congress on anything from the "participants" of this thread

Not the work of trolls and children

[BeHereNow]

49. And I will bet you are wrong.

Why don't we start a poll and find out?
BHN

[Kolesar]

56. poll me

do it :evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[BeHereNow]

3. If you let the criminals get away with it, you are complicit.

At least let their records show that you called them out on it.
You'll sleep better knowing you did the right thing.
BHN

[MonkeyFunk]

58. "that bitch"

:eyes:

[BeHereNow]

59. I have already apologized for using that word on this thread.

I agree, totally inappropriate.
Sometimes the anger and outrage simply
overcome judgement.
And for that, I am ashamed.

BHN

[rateyes]

4. I've called her so many times, she thinks I'm related to her.

Tired of pissing in the wind.

[bdamomma]

50. maybe her constituents should just camp on her front lawn.

[jgraz]

5. She knows her oath. She just doesn't give a fuck.

Or, more correctly, she knows that holding up her oath would result in her own saggy ass in a prison cell.

[BeHereNow]

6. Well, afer hearing Bugliosi's reasons for his book- that is EXACTLY why we should call.

Bugliosi, in summary said, if he accomplished nothing else with his book,
he wanted the criminal to always be thinking it was possible that
he would one day be held accountable.
I want Pelosi to feel the same.
Therefore, I advocate calling to plant the seed in her mind
that SOME people are aware of her complicity in allowing
Rove, and others, to break THE LAW.

BHN

[elocs]

7. Is this the part where everybody jumps through the hoop, screaming "K & R"?

pass

[BeHereNow]

10. Oh heck no, why on earth would we want our congress to uphold the LAW?

Enjoy your descent over the cliff with the rest of
the sleeping American mall grazing sheeple.

Guess you , like they, have no concern about
the congress failing to uphold the law.

Do me a favor- go and find ONE article or statement
from Pelosi on what she intends to do about Rove's
BLATANT refusal to follow the LAW of this country.

BHN

[elocs]

13. Judging by some of the other responses, you are not having much luck with this, are you?

I would have sworn it would have been a sure thing.

[BeHereNow]

15. What IS your point?

What do you mean, "a sure thing?"

What exactly is YOUR motive in replying to this thread?
It sure is not about holding our public servants accountable
for failing to uphold the law.

BHN

[elocs]

20. A "sure thing" meaning you would have 33 Recs and people saying, "yes, yes, yes".

If people get to say "yes", I get to say "no"--no other motive than that. It is a public forum after all and we have different ideas, otherwise we truly would be sheep. Evidently there are sheep who agree with you and sheep who do not. That's life.

[BeHereNow]

21. Project much? At what point did I express wanting 33 recs?

I simply posted a link to contact Pelosi and demand that
she pursue the LEGAL action required against any
citizen who ignores a subpoena.

You don't think it is her job to uphold the law?
Fine.

But I certainly don't give you a pass on
implying that my motive for posting the
link to contact her was to gain a thousand recommendations.

You might want to examine your thinking about projecting
such imaginary realities, along with your thinking that it is okay
for Karl Rove to ignore a subpoena and have the SOTH house
say and do nothing about it.

Better, yet, why don't you see what happens if YOU
ignore a subpoena?

BHN

[elocs]

24. That was simply my opinion. Here's an idea for you: please place me on your ignore list.

It will make life ever so much more simple for both of us. Here, I'll go first.

[BeHereNow]

28. I don't put people on ignore.

Great way for you to avoid explaining your bull shit though.
Make unfounded accusations and then duck.
Uh-huh...
BHN

[pacalo]

8. I have to know the specifics from reliable sources before I contact someone

about a topic I know nothing about, but I'll be happy to contact her when that's provided. Can you provide links?

[BeHereNow]

9. What you need to know is this:

Rove has made it clear that he has no intention of
observing the LEGAL subpoena for his testimony
before Congress.

Pelosi has said and done NOTHING about it since.

Any more questions?

BHN

[pacalo]

14. The info was just posted by David Swanson on his site.

Nothing wrong with asking for verification.

[BeHereNow]

16. What info?

More specifics please?
Not sure what you are talking about-
BHN

[BeHereNow]

17. Neve rmind- I just saw KPete's thread on it-

Thanks for passing it along.
BHN

[Freddie Stubbs]

46. It would be the job of the Judiciary Committee to take action

Has Chairman Conyers said or done anything?

[barbtries]

11. i did it

not that she cares.

[BeHereNow]

12. You're right- she does not care, that is obvious, but not the point of the action.

The point of calling is to make the statement to her that
SOME of us are aware of her failure to uphold THE LAW.

Imagine what would happen to you or me if we ignored a subpoena???

So are there now, as Bugliosi pointed out, TWO sets of law in this country?

One for the power elite, and another for the serfs?

WE MUST at least document that SOME of us know the difference
between "selective" and actual "US" laws being upheld
by our elected public officials.

BHN

[ClayZ]

18. Done, Thanks ! ! !

K and R

[BeHereNow]

19. No... THANK YOU! They need to know we are watching.

Pelosi, since achieving her status as SOTH, has REPEATEDLY
been in dereliction of her duty and OATH, to WE, the people.

By now, her complicity is SO clear.
Mind you, I don't think it will change any time soon,
but that is no reason to allow her a sound night of sleep.

Let her know that WE know.
They seriously think no one is paying attention
and they are right, the majority have no idea.
Some of us DO.
BHN

[Kaleko]

22. I gave her another earful in an email just now.

Just to add to the (hopefully) deluge of comments and calls she's getting about this.

[BeHereNow]

23. She should not get a pass on letting him break the law.

Again, it REALLY is that simple.

If she says, does nothing, then she is an accomplice to
breaking the law.

BHN

[Kaleko]

25. FWIW, that's what I told her.

And that her constituents will be working to have her removed.

[blues90]

26. You could send her a recording of her swearing in

in her own voice with video and still she would not do one thing. There is only one hope and that is next time she is on camera the staples pop out and the real face of Pelosi will be exposed. I would not be surprised to see wires and diodes and a few circuit boards.

[Blarch]

27. Go ahead, waste your time.

The last time I called I asked her staffer...

"I heard Pelosi say that she couldn't end the war without the presidents signature...Is she stupid or is she lying"

I asked many times and the staffer couldn't answer a simple question. Fuck those hacks.

[Echo In Light]

29. K&R

[spanone]

30. i am so tired of telling my reps why i voted for them...they didn't forget when they were running

[Dukkha]

31. a lot of good that will do.

but it is the effort that counts. Right Nancy?

[BeHereNow]

32. Believe me, I know THAT feeling... Bugliosi is the one who turned my thinking on that fact.

The point is to make the bitch aware of the fact that there ARE
those among the sheep who KNOW and may one day bring her
to justice for failing to UPHOLD her oath.
For allowing a criminal to go free.
For allowing a US citizen to ignore a subpoena.

The assholes think we are not paying attention.
WE MUST let them know that some of us are.
Just to make them look over their shoulders
for the rest of their lives if nothing else.

Bugliosi invited the audience to consider the fact that
now that he has called Bush out, he will forever be aware that
someday, somewhere, he may get a tap on his shoulder
from an aide that he has been subpoenaed.

Be it three years from now, or thirty- let him wonder.
Pelosi should do the same.

BHN

[deacon]

33. kick and highly recommend! n/t

[BeHereNow]

34. Kicking- so the late night crew can easily access the contact link.

Lonestarnot reported on another thread that the mailbox is full.\
HOWEVER..
"We will not falter, we will not fail" to continue to demand that
justice is SERVED on Rove for ignoring the subpoena.

Either you're for the law, or you're against it...eh?
Time to turn their words back on them.
Especially so called "democrats" elected by WE, the people,
who act in their personal interest, rather than ours.
$$$$$$$$ Follow the money and insist on the LAW
being upheld for Rove, as it would be for any other citizen,
including you and me.
BHN

[Senator]

35. K&R&Impeach Or Lose To McCain

[EFerrari]

36. Kick

[electropop]

37. My message to Nancy:

"Your oath of office requires you to support and defend the Constitution. If you fail to pursue Contempt of Congress against Rove, you are derelict in your duty, and thereby complicit in the crimes of the Bush regime. When the prosecutions do begin (and they will), which side do you want to be on?"

[BeHereNow]

40. Simple and to the POINT- every day that passes is a day of dereliction.

She says and does nothing about it.
Why is that...
Is she hoping WE will not notice?
Let's make sure she knows we are waiting for
her to hold the fucker in contempt.

Way to go electropop.

BHN:thumbsup: :hi:

[Kolesar]

38. a reference would be nice

[BeHereNow]

51. Her silence on the matter IS the reference.

BHN

[orleans]

43. fuck her. she's a piece of shit. n/t

[deacon]

44. Really tragic she needs to be reminded of this. Shows she's in the wrong

profession and the wrong job.

[TheWatcher]

45. K & R

Done, and Done.

Her failure to uphold the law amounts to nothing less than COMPLICITY.

It is high time for this foolishness to STOP.

[Riddler]

47. It's a waste of time. I've written that bitch more than a dozen times and haven't so much as gotten

any response whatsoever, not even an acknowledgment of my letter. I've emailed and snail mailed with the same results....nothing. People, she couldn't care less what we think or else we wouldn't be worrying about contacting her and telling her she's the most ineffective Speaker in memory. Instead of wasting time and energy on this worthless bitch, we should be doing everything we can to remove her sorry, complicit ass from office.

[BeHereNow]

48. I disagree... and advise you not to equate results with your actions.

Taking the action should not be motivated by your expectation
of the result it will have. Whether you know it or not,
the silence IS a reaction, just not the one you had hoped for.

Of course they will not respond.
They want you to feel that your voice does not matter.
And in some ways, it doesn't.
They appear to do what ever they want, despite the
cry of outrage from the public.

What does matter is, although they do not respond
to your correspondence, trust me, they are aware of it.
All the more reason not to acknowledge it in their minds.

They are hoping, by their failure to respond, that you will
give up and go away.
DON'T.

This is what I learned from listening Bugliosi.
Keep them nervous.
Keep them wondering whether or not, somewhere, someday,
they will be held accountable.
BHN

[dkofos]

52. I've done it a hundred times. She doesn't give a shit. The only thing she

cares about is reelection.

PISS POOR PELOSI THE WORST SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE EVER.
ROT IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS CUNT!!!

[Zuiderelle]

53. I'm more angered by you and others on this thread calling her a bitch.

Fuck that.

[BeHereNow]

54. I respectfully acknowledge your anger.

As my dad has often reminded me, resorting to profanity
reveals the weakness of the person speaking than it does
the target.

Thanks for reminding me of that flaw within myself.

Returning to the topic of my thread:
What would happen to YOU if you ignored a subpoena?

Why is it that Karl Rove, and others are not being
brought to justice that you and I would surely face if we
were to fail to appear before congress to testify under a
subpoena?

As your username indicates, you are a Pelosi fan.
Please explain to me why you are supporting someone
who does not hold EVERY citizen to the law?
Especially someone who is paid with OUR tax dollars
to do so?

BHN

[Zuiderelle]

55. I joined DU right after Pelosi was elected Speaker. I think we were all Pelosi fans at that time.

If I had the option to change my name, I would. Not because I hate her as much as so many people here seem to, but because I'm tired of people assuming that I adore her.

I stopped listening to people here criticizing her when they resorted to name-calling, and idiotic pie-in-the-sky idealism such as insisting that she support impeachment, which would be a really stupid thing to do at this point in time.

As for this issue, I agree that she should hold him accountable, but I also hope that she is already on the right path in this regard and that we will see her act soon on it. If she doesn't, then I'll be right there insisting that she does, but without all the sexist slurs.

[Kolesar]

57. Why...Rove? Because you and your coterie are too lazy to do anything about it

or else you are trolls

[BeHereNow]

60. Who are you referring to- "You and your coterie?"

Not sure what you are implying with that.
Care to clarify?

BHN

[TNOE]

61. Dan Abrams was pretty clear on this last night

in his interview with Deborah Wasserman Schultz (Spelling?) - he stated that Karl Rove will not show up, that's a given. And tried to nail her down on what the response would be. She was pretty evasive - all options on the table, blah, blah, blah. But Dan let her know - we'll be watching. At least its something. But I agree - the people are going to have to have a shit-storm over this after the FISA bill.

[BeHereNow]

62. What was the LEGAL was reason given as to why Rove can ignore the subpoena?

I did not see the interview, but I would be interested to
hear Rove's LEGAL reasoning as to why he can ignore
a subpoena.

I'd also like to hear Pelosi's reasons for accepting
his legal stand on why he should be allowed
to ignore the subpoena.

BHN

[TNOE]

63. That was kind of "it"

there is no "legal reasoning". Even if he claimed executive privilege - he has to show up in order to claim that. And - he claimed he did not discuss anything with the White House - so how can the White House claim "executive privilege".

[TNOE]

64. Also, it occured to me after watching the show

that all Americans should now make it clear that they will not respond to subpoenas. If its good enough for Karl Rove and the 2 others - then its good enough for the rest of us.

A statement needs to be made. None of the rest of us could lawfully refuse a subpoena and not show up. If the law no longer matters - than we're back to the wild west. We'll take justice back in our own hands.

[BeHereNow]

66. THAT was Bugliosi's point the other night...

How is it that we have come to be a country
where the LAW only applies to some of us, while
the rest blatantly act above it without consequence ensuing,
or actions taken by, ANY of those sworn to uphold the law and judicial system?

You're right, it's officially the Wild West.

BHN

[BeHereNow]

65. They don't even pretend anymore, do they?

Why not just appear on the MSM "talk" shows
and flip the American people off over the airwaves?
Succinct and to the point that way.

BHN