I've fucking had it with Nancy Pelosi

[CatWoman]

:grr:

what a completely WORTHLESS, ENABLING POS!!!

:grr:

LEAD, OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!!!

:grr:

[LakeSamish706]

1. I was just thinking that very thing this AM... Something has to be going on...

with her, cause she has never done her job that I recall, so yep get out of the way and let someone that is going to do the job, do it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. Doesn't she belong to one of those secret societies?

Maltese Falcon or something or other?

[salguine]

77. I've heard it's called "The Republican Party".

[man4allcats]

82. Yes, I believe you're correct.

Lieberman is also a member of that same organization.

[Name removed]

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[jmondine]

146. I think it's called the IRWSIGAF

Which stands for, "I'm Rich, Why Should I Give A Fuck"

[LVjinx]

53. Is there such a thing as a vote of no confidence to replace her, or does she have too many cronies?

I can't imagine anyone in the world thinks she's been doing a good job.

[Myrina]

91. I can't imagine anyone in the world who thinks she's doing A job

... at all.

[MNBrewer]

127. You might be surprised

There are Pelosi fans on here.

[sandyj999]

150. Not Me. She hasn't done ANYTHING!! n/t

[MNBrewer]

154. I'm just sayin'.

I personally think she's been a TERRIBLE Speaker of the House.

[ooglymoogly]

138. There could be a petition of no confidence

If signed by enough people...say millions it might get some coverage and put her on notice. I would personally love to see such a petition.

[metamars]

141. No-Confidence would be a start; periodic ostracism even better

Please check out my dailykos diary entry, Time to start formally ostracizing Democrats and Republicans. A sufficient number of ostracisms would all but guarantee that loser Congress persons, both Democrat and Republican, would stand no chance of getting re-elected. That's part of the goal, anyway. Of course, citizens would have to make sure that their replacements are actually better people. But if you can almost guarantee that an incumbent, such as Pelosi, will get the axe, then automatically better people will be encouraged to think about running for office. While the ostracisms, as I envision them, occur on a regular schedule, it's probably a good idea to add occasional no-confidence votes to the mix.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/21/111936/147/313/539724

From my diary:

The ostracism penalty in Athens was banishment for 10 years. While I wouldn't mind banishing a good deal of our Congress critters for 10 or 20 years, that is hardly necessary. The way to accomplish a modern ostracism is to have postcards sent out to the constituents of Congress persons, informing them of their Congress persons' 'victory' in the ostracism voting, pointing them to an accompanying web site where the defects of the Congress person are discussed in a dedicated forum, and asking them to please, please consider voting for somebody else next time an election for that Congress person's office comes up. The title of the ostracism postcard would read something like this:

In 2008, Q2, Representative STENNY HOYER of Maryland has been OSTRACIZED by the registered Democrats of the United States of America

Ostracism votes would be conducted online, 4 times a year. That would provide frequent feedback (read: pressure from the public), as well as some opportunity for corrective behavior during the remaining part of their terms. Hopefully, any office holder who receives multiple ostracisms can count on NOT winning re-election. The voters in the ostracism process would not just be constituents, but voters throughout the country. (This is required, actually, since if you confined the voting to constituents, they would be forced - in the case of their Senators - to ostracize one of them, even if both were fine.) Preferably, only registered Democrats could vote, and they could only vote to ostracize members of the Democratic Party. (A similar process should be created for Republicans - they are also abusing their constituents....) Recipients of the postcards, on the other hand, would be any constituent household. The net result should be ostracism of, say, the worst 5% of Democrats, and the worst 5% of Republicans, every 4 months. So, when registered Democrats get to ostracize 5% of Democratic Congress people, if there's 50 such Senators and 218 Representatives, then the net result is that 3 Democratic Senators and 14 Democratic Representatives get ostracized. The voting could be held over a 2 week period, and ostracism voters could add comments. (These would hopefully be read by the staffs of the ostracized Congress critters.) If it's not possible to obtain rock solid lists of registered Democrats and Republicans, an alternative process might be to make all voting identities public, complete with address information, and a required online legal agreement that the individual doing the voting is who he or she says they are, and that they are indeed registered to the required party (Democrat or Republican), subject to legal penalties for fraud. (A wrinkle on this idea is to also send reminder postcards to constituents a week before election day, if any of their representatives has received even one ostracism during the previous 2 years, and furthermore is up for re-election.)

[ooglymoogly]

161. I'll buy into every word of that nt

[debunkthelies]

169. How To???

Get it started, someone who knows the procedure please help out here. I truly believe there are millions who would sign.:kick: :grouphug: :woohoo: Lets get it going.

[electropop]

151. Bush thinks she's doing a heckuva job.

And as long as he's happy, the checks will keep coming.

[chelsea0011]

2. Most disappointing speaker ever.

[janetblond]

3. Too many facelifts affected her brain ...

she's clueless.
why don't people like that retire?
she's certainly not working because she NEEDS the money!

[Golden Raisin]

54. She is NOT clueless.

She is a Beltway insider par excellence and a longtime, polished professional pol who knows exactly what she is doing and what she has not done. Unfortunately I don't think she has enough of a conscience to be significantly bothered by it all. Her term as Speaker has been an unmitigated disaster, set an horrible example for future generations and has been a tragedy for the Republic. History will not be kind to Pelosi.

[defendandprotect]

142. How can people think that for instance Bush or Pelosi don't know what they're doing . . . ???

these things don't happen by accident . . .

They are pushed in the direction they are intended to go ---

does Bush look like an unhappy guy --- ?

Does Pelosi look like she suffers sleepless nights because of war in Iraq ---

or TORTURE--?

[Dinger]

4. Female Version of nomentum

(joe LIeberman) Fuck her.

[TexasObserver]

5. She's been a huge disappointment. No leadership at all.

She could have had investigations that would lay open the horrors of the Bush administration, without the filibuster problem of the senate. She could have served the country well and made a place for herself in history. Well, she's made her place now. She's been the most ineffective Democratic Speaker in modern history.

She's pathetic.

[Art_from_Ark]

55. Carl Albert, she ain't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Albert

[TexasObserver]

96. Or Jim Wright, or Tom Foley, or Tip O'Neill, or Sam Rayburn.

It is her REFUSAL to fight that has pissed me so severely.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

172. You're right!!!

I graduated from Sam Rayburn High School, which opened in 1964.

Sam Rayburn <---:yourock:

[kmac3]

119. I so agree . . . .

She has been a total disappointment to all. The absolute worse outcome is that she was given the once in a lifetime opportunity to be the first women to become Speaker of the House and she totally blew it. Her inability and behavior will be referred to whenever any other women makes the attempt proceed up the ladder in the field of politics. She's done a lot of damage that will be most difficult to reverse.
.

[defendandprotect]

143. Try to understand . . . she has given LEADERSHIP . . . but in the direction opposite to where ...

we want to go ---

This isn't a failure to get where she wants to go ---

she's going where she wants to go very succesfully---!!!

[Oceansaway]

6. makes ya wonder what the fuk they have

on her...must be something good....

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[YOY]

93. Yes she has an Italian surname she must be a member of "the family"

Do you have any idea how many of us are doctors, lawyers, MBAs, accountants, and college professors? Not to mention the scores of hardworking laborers and generally contributing members of society of Italian decent...

It's truly an insult to us when that is insinuated.

[pollo poco]

97. the family isn't the cosa nostra

It's an secret international breakfast club for wealthy, powerful fundies. Tony Blair is a typical member.
Not a "mafia" thing at all. They pray, and set the international agenda of the true elites. Many of our elected reps are members.

Don't blame you for getting mad at all the "Italians are Mafiosos" stuff, but this is different.

[GalleryGod]

123. I agree. The above line of posts causes me to say this...

If any of you a$$wipe effin keyboard commandos want to meet me in Philly...well, we'll see how my Ft. Benning training matches up with your ATTENDS.

I'm so out of this LOSER-LAND.

Discuss amongst yourselves, CUMQUATS:puke:

[Name removed]

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[crim son]

140. Laughing.

You're always so refreshing.

[a la izquierda]

176. I should probably be happy that I didn't see

that post? Being Italian and all.

[YOY]

177. You can pretty much guess what they were insinuating...

It's comments like that makes me want to turn my slightly off-white calm professional cul into Joe Pesci in Casino (the scene with little Joe and a the telephone reciever bashing in a huge redneck's nose...)

[JuniperLea]

27. My thoughts exactly...

All that pre-9/11 wiretapping must have dished some dirt on a lot of spineless Dems... Pelosi being the Queen.

[TheDebbieDee]

30. I believe this, too. The * admin has been using the

info from their illegal snooping to keep the repukes and many Dems in line.

Also, those Anthrax mailgrams that were sent out to Daschle, and several other prominent Dems, as well as to the broadcast news-anchors of the 3 major tv networks must have served the purpose of quieting any real opposition to their plans for war.

One last thing: Around the same time that the Dem leadership of congress got their nthrax mailgrams, Bill Clinton received a mysterious package at his office in New York City that his staffers considered a Hazmat risk and the authorities were called in to investigate.

About a week later, the MSM circulated the story that the mysterious package to Bill Clinton was a false alarm and was nothing to be concerned about. And in the years since, as I have watched our MSM become little more that gossip-spreaders, I have wondered if they managed to intimidate the hell out of Bill Clinton, too..............

[paparush]

72. Yeah, and we're poised to give retroactive immunity and EXPAND Bush's wiretapping powers.

I just can't fucking believe this is happening.

[JuniperLea]

130. That could explain Bill's angst during Hill's campaign...

It never set right with me.

[JDPriestly]

160. I think the eavesdropping started under Clinton.

Can't prove it, but his administration was pushing the Germans and other Europeans to do away with their protections for the privacy of their people in their electronic communications. That I know. I posted the link to the German article (which was dated during the Clinton administration) on it long ago, but I can't find that link or the article now.

Back then, the excuse for eavesdropping was protecting intellectual property.

[defendandprotect]

144. Certainly, the frame up to entrap him in a "lie" re his affair would count there . . .

[Enthusiast]

58. This might be the very answer.

Republicans have a history of this bullshit. I've found you can more accurately judge this group if you consider the worst possible behavior and motives.

[JuniperLea]

131. It's scary if you think about it too hard...

Connecting these dots will get a person called a conspiracy theorist... it's something I'm willing to risk.

[howmad1]

43. Better check the White House visitor logs.

Anytime after 11:00 PM, if ya get my drift.:evilfrown:

[polmaven]

68. If your "drift"

is that Speaker Pelosi is having sexual encounters with Bush, that is just an unacceptable thing to imply.

If, however, I have missed your "drift" completely, I apologize and must ask for enlightenment.

[bertman]

107. Relax, polmaven. That was funny.

Besides we know that Laura just wrote her big steamy dream novel filled with lust and more. Maybe Nancy was visiting Laura while Shrub was "exercising" with Condaleeza.

[Jester Messiah]

71. Dear FSM...

How do I stab out my mind's eye!?

[MadrasT]

109. Coffee snort

"How to I stab out my mind's eye" :rofl: that made me snort coffee out my nose....

[jmondine]

148. She'll have to get in line behind Lieberman, McCain, and the entire staff of Fox News

[MotorCityMan]

7. Me, too. They've got something on her.

Either that, or she is firmly onboard the gravy train.

There has GOT to be some reason for their caving in every damn time.

[Triana]

47. I believe a deal was made before she became speaker...no impeachment...

..that she'd stay out of the way and let them do their crimes - she's got some return on her 'do-nothing' investment. Either that and/or they've got some good dirt on the woman.

Something damn well stinks there - the stench is nauseating.

[raccoon]

88. Sounds like a Robert Ludlum novel. I believe you're right. nt

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

8. Well, she attending Netroots Nation, where...

she will be answering questions and receiving, no doubt, a healthy education in Progressive Democrat Reality.

Not a lot of shrinking violets attend that clambake.

[CatWoman]

13. good!!!!

i hope they give her several ear fulls!!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. DUers can participate also here is the link to the website;

http://www.askthespeaker.org/

[CatWoman]

16. great link

thanks :)

:hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. I'm too pissed right now that I might sound like John McCain

talking to his trollop.

[hootinholler]

29. You should start a thread with that site!

Thank You.

-Hoot

[stillcool]

37. great questions!

[reprehensor]

73. Start an askthespeaker thread!

I second the motion!

[bdamomma]

92. oh, you are so good.

thanks for that site, I just fired off an e-mail to her. Thanks Ichingcarpenter:hi:

[hisownpetard]

157. Great link. Thanks!

[EbenezerMcIntosh]

9. I'm with you 100%

But I have felt this way since 2006 and the failure of Democrats to end the war.

[whathappened]

79. speaker

isn't she just muddeying the waters for any women to hold such a high office , this women makes it look like women should not be in any important post

[pollo poco]

99. please!

By that logic George Bush has proved once and for all that men shouldn't be in any important post.

"Men" is too large and diverse a group to be catagorically judged by the actions of George Bush.

You can't draw such inferences about women from the actions of one woman, either.

This is classic. Members of "minority" groups are seen as the whole group. Majority members are treated as individuals.

Thus, Bill Richardson "represents all Mexicans". But does Ralph Nader "represent all whites"?

[TooBigaTent]

111. Not really. As the first female Speaker, the reality is that she is under increased

scrutiny. People who would resist the notion of a woman in power will use her as an example to support THEIR bigotry.

Whathappened is just pointing out the facts, not expressing his/her prejudice. remember - you can NEVER underestimate the stupidity, ignorance, and dirty tactics of the cons.

[wildbilln864]

10. k&r! eom.

[bobbolink]

11. Wasn't so long ago we were loudly reminded how important it is to vote for a Dem, any Dem.

And the loud speakers will be cranking up again very soon.

:shrug:

[blues90]

23. Don't say that , Anything true , brings on the ignore list .

[lostnotforgotten]

40. Righto - Dems And Progressives Are Routinely Told Here To

"Sit down and shut up!"

[bobbolink]

175. I'm bookmarking this thread.. for the next time we get that same line...

"But ANY Dem is so much better... remember the ...(fill in in the blank... Congressional majority, Supreme Court, yada yada yada....)

Bookmarked, I tell ya.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

115. Why, I believe

you are correct.

I am still trying to get beyond being told to stfu and never question.

[pretzel4gore]

14. it's a class thing

the wealthy class share a concern about the common people-we need to be controlled. Junyer bush was so outrageous, the greed was so blatant, the lies were so necessary etc that, in a nutshell, bush represents the entire 'have' class, and he must be quietly allowed to fade out of the national consciousness, just like the killers blair and rumsmell and so on....pelosi might even hate doing her bush duty, but it's bigger then the little goof. And the class aspect is never mentioned by pigmedia, which then leaves everything 'alice in wonderland' quality (so much defies common sense) Remember, 8 years ago, it only take ONE SENATOR to block bush's inaugaration, as seen on Michael Moore's F911, and it was Al Gore himself getting testy with the CBCaucas! Gore, of course, is solidly a member of the bushevik class

[wurzel]

100. True. Wealthy Pelosi has far more in common with Bush than with us

[closeupready]

105. Exactly right - money.

I get the feeling that somehow, she is trying to protect her assets and investments, and that if she crosses the GOP, she stands to lose money somehow.

[Orsino]

147. And the same money that buys Bushes...

...or is Bushes, also does its best to buy Pelosis.

It really is the-money-stupid.

[Octafish]

17. Bushco must have donkey pictures.

Or tape recordings or something on her, picked up the illegal wiretaps she wants to forgive and fuhgedaboud.

[fascisthunter]

20. or she's just another player

[leveymg]

64. "Player" is a nice word for Unindicted Co-conspirator: torture; warrantless wiretaps; what else?

The sad fact is that the Congressional leadership got "read into" every illegal BushCo program. If they don't publicly speak up about it, that makes them accessories to the crimes.

We'll see if she exercises any leadership - if HR 362, the Iran War Bill, gets to the Floor, she's lost to me.

One last chance, Nancy.

[Skittles]

21. I have detested her from the start

my fail-to-be-fooled record still stands

[slackmaster]

22. The downside of gerrymandering in California

It ensures that incumbents are immune from challenges even within their own party.

[pokercat999]

63. A perfect example of why we need term limits. ONE TERM

AND OUT FOREVER!

It's time to attempt to put limits on the ruling class in America. Term limits of one term only, never to hold public office at the federal level again. Public financing of all federal elections with strict limits on "outside" advertising with zero tolerance for violators. Reinstate the fairness doctrine. Enable the vote by increasing the one day to vote to a week or longer with at least one day of a mandatory, paid national holiday to let every worker have the opportunity to vote.

[Amonester]

78. Perfect solutions. The only problem is...

Who's gonna vote to enact them?

Nancy and her obedient followers?

Which ones came first? Chickens? Eggs?

[pokercat999]

163. Sometimes the only solution is revolution.............we only

have to eliminate them once!

[indepat]

24. I passed the "I've fucking had it with Nancy Pelosi" state the moment she took impeachment

off the table and have since wondered aloud on the DU board if she were public enemy number one. :D

[leftofthedial]

25. She's every bit as bad as the enemy.

maybe worse.

[blues90]

26. When she first sat in that seat with all the children in the captial

Was all it took for me to think , what the hell is this. Those sort of images tell a lot. It wasn't that she had a family and grand children it was , what is she trying to say and what is the point.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

28. HERE WHAT PO'S ME

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/89432/

[lonestarnot]

31. Why be pissed about that now. I was pissed about that 7 1/2 years ago, knowing full well what was

in store for us.

[Swamp Rat]

32. Nancy's Bush:

:D

[CatWoman]

33. that hurts, Swampy

:hi:

:loveya:

[cascadiance]

124. Yep, she's his handmaid!

[onehandle]

34. Do we have any confirmation on this other than a post on a left wing blog?

I want confirmation.

[CatWoman]

35. KPete has a thread going

and they are discussing this (not Pelosi, but Karl not appearing) on Abrams right now.

Julian Epstein says Thursday a judge is to rule on Miers, and the Dems will also ask for an injunction on Rove as well.

[Canuckistanian]

36. I hate to say it, but just maybe she appears to be favoring the "other side"

Because she seems to have done FUCK ALL for the Dem side.

Just my honest opinion.

[sfnative]

38. I'm beyond pissed

She's part of the owning class and will do anything to protect the owning class. Her true colors showed when she became Speaker of the House.

[EbenezerMcIntosh]

42. How pissed are you?

Somebody fired the first shot at Concord. Admittedly, I am not that pissed, yet.

[sfnative]

65. Try Sadness

What’s beyond pissed? Try sadness. I just learned that my sister-in-law’s niece signed up for the military. What’s the reason this kid joined the Army? To travel and see the world! She bought the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Her dad is a former military man and believes she’ll be assigned some cush position in Germany. Maybe if the kid or her parents saw the realities of war on TV, like soldiers coming home in body bags or blown off heads and limbs, this 18 year old girl would be going off to college instead of war. What’s even sadder is her cousins adore her, and they don’t even know she signed up. My brother, sister-in-law, and their kids went to see her this summer to say goodbye because they don’t know if they’ll ever see her again.

Why should Nancy be against the war when her husband is a war profiteer? The war will never negatively affect Nancy’s life unless the military draft is instituted and her loved ones are dragged off to be killed.

So getting back to the American Revolution, how did it come to fruition? When it was supported by the rich and the poor. Mostly led by the rich and fought by the poor.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

117. Most excellent

post.

Sorry about the girl joining the military. Maybe she should have noticed that most Army grunts are sent right over to Iraq... If that's the part of the world she wanted to see then hooray! My best friends son did the same thing. He HATES Bush and knew what may happen but he enlisted anyway. I have to talk my best girlfriend down from her ceiling at least once a week.

Welcome to our little corner of cyberspace.... :D

[Duncan Grant]

134. Welcome to DU!

I have a similar story in my extended family. :hi:

[sfnative]

158. Thanks, Gilligan and 94114.

Let's all wish these kids come back safely.

[EFerrari]

44. Welcome to DU, sfnative.

:)

[sfnative]

66. Thanks, sfexpat!

I appreciate the warm welcome!

[spanone]

39. who is she representing? not her party, not her constituents.not me, not you.

[Laughing Mirror]

59. Her paymasters

Nancy Pelosi is about as corrupt as they come.

[NorthCarolina]

76. She is representing the Blue Dog & DLC segment of her party

eom

[Zorra]

174. Her class. She's filthy rich and she's protecting the interests of the wealthy. n/t

[Raster]

41. No matter which side of the aisle they usually reside, they all feed at the same trough.

[tomp]

70. no, no, you must take the loyalty oath. nt

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[samsingh]

46. agreed

[RufusTFirefly]

48. Think Senator Pat Geary

The BFEE are the real-life Corleones.
You can try to cross them, but you do so at your own risk.

[Seabiscuit]

50. That picture's creepy. It makes him look like William F. Buckley.

And THAT's creepy.

[RufusTFirefly]

52. Haha. Yeah. I see what you mean...

I think it's the tilt of the head. Now all he needs is a pencil and a pointier nose.

[skyounkin]

49. I

would throw "harry fucking idiot reid" on that list too.

[New Dawn]

51. K&R

[deacon]

56. She's certainly much worse than Feinstein. n/t

[Amerigo Vespucci]

57. Don't forget to factor in the fact that she giveth not a fuck...

...she's writing a book, so she'll get a nice windfall profit, and God knows what other "income streams" put food on her table while keeping impeachment off.

Yes, she is a worthless enabling POS, but...unfortunately...until she's up for re-election, she's OUR worthless enabling POS.

[paparush]

74. That is the most disturbing, disenheartening picture..

THAT is our leadership?

We are so fucked.

America is toast.

[John Q. Citizen]

164. She's up in Nov 2008, just like every other member of the house.

[Maccagirl]

60. Thank you for this thread and links, Midori

We love our Catwoman!!!

[CatWoman]

110. and CatWoman loves her Maccagirl!!!

:hi:

[jeff30997]

61. K&R

I totally agree!:banghead:

[Enrique]

62. if you're talking about that rumor, then I'd say be skeptical

don't get your blood pressure up unnecessarily. :-)

[The Wizard]

67. With impeachment off the table

there's nothing to hold the criminal Bush/Cheney/Rove cartel accountable. All other investigations are moot as Bush will grant pardons or invoke Executive Privilege to cover up all crimes and misdeeds done in his name.
Impeachment should not only be on the table, it should be on the headline of every newspaper in the world outside of the United States as our corporate media would just ignore it unless there's a blow job involved.
No blow job, no impeachment. We are the dumbest nation on earth.

[20score]

69. Completely agree!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

75. You have a lot more patience than me. I've had it with her for close to a year now, when she brought

FISA to the floor last August.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

80. And then

there's always Steny Hoyer and Harry Reid. I called Reid's office yesterday re FISA, and the staffer was kinda curt and abrupt. But when I asked her if many people had called, she said, "Oh yes." So these weenies are hearing from us, they're just not listening.

K&R

[NNN0LHI]

81. On what issues does she and our presidential nominee differ?

If any?

Don

[Beam Me Up]

94. I would like to know the answer to that question, too.

And if there is a difference, is it a difference that makes a difference?

If not . . .

The Declaration of Independence makes our job clear.

. . .Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

[Norton]

83. I've just assumed that we'd put these guys in jail when we have a greater majority?

But now I'm wondering? It's personal, sure... but they need to made an example of the democratic process. They're criminals, end of story.
(Hey Catwoman I love your kitties!!! I have six and I'm a guy! What's wrong with us?... You know, besides being "enlightened"?!?

[Echo In Light]

84. Bushco conspirators will never be held accountable - by design

[pretzel4gore]

171. just watch....

the pigmedia is trying to throw a wet blanket over the national state of mind, and you can literally feel the heavy, dreary boring weight of the thing, but- the people sorta realize. The rightwing is CRIMINAL! That's not incidental; it's basic to all rightwing success. Think about it: how can the privileges of the few override the needs of the many? Or better yet, how can the wealthy/powerful increase their wealth power in a democracy? Answer. THEY CAN"T. It's impossible. The only way to do what the rightwing has done is to pull their punches, and in effect payoff enough voters to keep control. But with regan, and now with junyer bush, the rightwing has literally over reached itself. We are living in a time of high drama, but you would not know it watching the news (the 'dow' gained 100 points today, aint that fricking amazing?) Mr Obama is our only hope, insofar as restoring law and order. The entire human race would probably 'poop' itself if they knew the shenanagins being carried out as we speak, as the rightwing tries to force the US government to, in effect, forget all that's happened, or else they Threaten they'll will use nukes(?) against the hapless fools in Iran, or something....declare martial law...you name it.
The main point i wish lib/lefties would remember is this: taking candy from a baby is easy (that's why it's a cliche) and the rightwing proved it was easy these past 8 years doing it. Imagine a leftwing government stealing $7 or 8 trillion dollars, and hiding the fact! America will or won't recognise of fact of life: rightwing politicians have no place in any democracy

[CatWoman]

102. kitty pics!!! I demand kitty pics!!!!

:hi:

welcome to DU!!!

[DailyGrind51]

85. I've said it before, Pelosi is Dennis Hastert with a clearly definable waistline!

[Mike Nelson]

86. Agreed

Agreed

A GREED

[Mike Nelson]

87. Agreed

Agreed

A GREED

[bdamomma]

89. the Bush regime has something on all of them

they have wiretapped them too, so again it's CYA time.

[windoe]

90. Obstruction of Justice, plain & simple

too many of them don't work for us. They have rewritten the rules, we think we still have rights. At the present time we do not, obviously.
We work for them however, and I hope someday we do not, or refuse to anymore, as long as they do not live up to their part of the bargain.

[Phred42]

95. Pelosi is a Manchurian Candidate - K&R

[radhika]

98. Pelosi is waay-Manchurian

No other possibility - she is playing hard ball for the Rovian team. Why? Years of illegal wiretaps of her and her in-group; in-so-deep that if they go down, she goes down just as far; lack of any personal integrity; shares BushCo values? Any of them could plausibly work - but I pick the second one.

What do you pick?

[SteveM]

101. Pelosi & these old-line Dems have felt the lash from GOP too long; the're cowed.

[Kolesar]

103. A reference would be nice

for that matter, a thesis would be nice. What is this about?

[CatWoman]

104. it's about Pelosi ruling out comtempt charges on Rove

[bertman]

113. Damn CatWoman, you are hardcore. Ain't nobody gonna call you a PUSSY! That's for sure.

Just to inject a slightly different angle, every time I hear one of our Senators or Reps talk about "our friends on the other side of the aisle" I want to scream. If you're friends with these fascist, tax-dollar stealing, constitution-defiling bastards you are NOT looking out for the interests of the American people.

How about "colleagues on the other side of the aisle" or some other honorific.

When the Repigs want to stop something legislatively THEY DO WHATEVER IT TAKES WITHOUT REGARD TO COURTESY OR PROTOCOL OR FRIENDSHIP. It's always about winning because they think they are RIGHT.

Why can't Pelosi and company do business the same way??

[Voltaire99]

106. Sorry. Leadership is off the table.

Welcome to your corporate party. Donate frequently and then stir in impotent rage. Have a nice day!

[mdmc]

108. George Bush hasn't done anything illegal

:shrug:

[Eric J in MN]

112. I hope someone with legislative experience...

...runs in the Democratic primary against her in 2010.

[MessiahRp]

114. When she first became Minority Leader I thought she was just weak

Between her and Tom Daschle and her and Harry Reid, they were the most spineless weaklings ever to come on your TV and give a rebuttal to Bush's SOTU which was filled end to end with blatant lies.

I knew she didn't have majorities in Congress and chalked up her unwillingness to stand against the GOP as "she doesn't have the votes".

But she's the Speaker now and she is no longer just spineless and weak. She's complicit.

I know DU rules sort of defend Democrats blindly no matter how wrong they are but here's one case where I think the only way we're going to get real leadership out of Democrats is to support Sheehan's run (which I admit is probably doomed and she herself is not a perfect candidate either) or to support a Democratic overthrow of her in the House.

Rp

[OneBlueSky]

116. they must have some compromising photos of her with someone or other . . .

I shudder to think who . . .

[Neshanic]

120. I seriously think Chimp and Rove have information on her.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

121. pelosi is the epitome of the 'weak sister"

n. slang

1. A weak or undependable member of a group.
2. A person regarded as timid or indecisive.

[progressoid]

122. Hold on there...She IS leading.

Just leading in the wrong direction.

[walldude]

125. Two words

Cindy Sheehan.

[galileoreloaded]

126. Same same same

same same same, sounds like a song. Same masters, same money,
same goals. The FIRE (read finance economy) accounts for twice
the GDP percentage as manufacturing, and is the single largest
economic sector in America. Any funds you have or ever will
have, WILL be diluted, pilfered, taken "for the
children", leaving you poorer with a lower standard of
living.  

There are NO true statesmen left. The concept has been removed
from the American lexicon. The Republicans got hijacked, and
the Democrats did too. You can blame one party or another
party or the lamppost, doesn't matter when the music stops.
Soon as we figure out that they are the SAME, we might get
some where. Till then, same same same.

[KG]

128. and you were expecting, what?

[Yavin4]

129. Long Time DC Pols Serve Corporate Lobbyists First, Everyone Else Is Second

That explains everything.

[closeupready]

136. Yes. Americans seem to hold second place on Nancy's short list.

n/t

[rateyes]

132. I'm disgusted with her, too.

She couldn't lead the way out of a small room with one door.

[theFrankFactor]

133. I too have angst issues...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPI-bFx-D0

[George II]

135. Classy and highly mature post.

:sarcasm:




:nopity:

[krispos42]

137. Every time I see Dems get weak-kneed...

I wish we had Instant Runoff Voting.

With IRV, we can actually have a half-dozen parties in the House and Senate while still representing the people in an accurate and represetitive manner.



Oh, if I could go back in time and whisper in Jefferson's ear...

<sigh>

[Auggie]

145. Same here. Recommended and kicked.

[Lifetimedem]

149. AMEN

[whistle]

152. It is known as corruption and political pandering to the other side

[Pierre.Suave]

153. I have as well

her and quite a few others as well...

:mad:

[FunMe]

155. Thank Pelosi for the single digit Congress!

And of course this post explains completely why Congress approval is at 9%.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3386140

[LWolf]

156. I was there the FIRST time she declared impeachment off the table. n/t

[kma3346]

159. Proud to be the 100th person to recommend this topic

Not so proud that I voted for her when she was up for re-election. I had no idea what an enabler she would become. I wish we could recall her for totally ignoring what her constituents want her to do. And how come only Democrats (like Gray Davis) seem to be the only ones who can be recalled?

[Name removed]

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[Ken Burch]

168. I'd like to suggest a one-time relaxing of the DU rules to allow advocacy of a vote for Sheehan

It would do our party no harm if Cindy beat Pelosi.

I realize my proposal wouldn't be accepted, but still, in this one case, I think we should cut people some slack. Who'd possibly be hurt?

[saracat]

165. But our presumptive nominee agrees with her! So why single out Nancy?

[magi91711]

166. I stopped by her DC Office...

...on a recent business trip. I wanted to let the Speaker know how rudely I was treated by her SF staff when I called regarding wiretapping. I thought she was probably unaware that her staff were telling non-district voters they would not take their calls. I figured I was not alone in thinking the Speaker was a national post and as such, we should be able to have our opinions known. As soon as I got the words "I felt they were disrespectful" out of my mouth, the DC aide cut me off, saying (quite rudely, as it were) "No they weren't." No apology, no nothing. I just smiled and left, thinking Granny Nanny needed to go.

Later, I sent the Speaker a note, letting her know this life long Democrat had sent a contribution to Cindy Sheehan.

The reply, I'm sure, is in the mail.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

167. All aboard!

[Blarch]

170. My thread named "Democrats are weak" ...

was locked because the mods said it was flame bait.

It's hard to believe this thread is acceptable ...

I wish the mods would just be consistent for once.

[Bluebear]

173. kick