"Where is the responsibility of those American industrialists who helped Hitler to refit his ...

[Bozita]

...armaments and profited by that refitting? Are we now to find the American industrialists guilty? No, your honor. No!

That's a line from the defense attorney in an incredible film.

"Judgment at Nuremberg"

It's showing on Retroplex at 4am EDT. No commercials.

VCR/DVR ALERT

[LakeSamish706]

1. Any Bushies involved in the telling of this movie? n/t

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2. An important fact

Also a fact: The families involved in the attempted coup during the FDR administration are the very same corporate entities that now benefit from the pain of working people ....

Funny how the ultrarich conservatives who DESPISE government intervention to help starving families or help poor kids go to college are the SAME corporate asses who line up for government money when their chips are down .... They HATE government and taxes, until they need YOUR tax money to bail them out of the mortgage mess .... Government and taxes is NO problem then ...

Those involved in Hitler's rise to power should have been tarred and feathered in the public square ... or AT LEAST penalized HEAVILY in some more dignified manner ....

[Bozita]

3. Could that line in the OP appear in a movie in 2003 or '04 or ...?

I don't think so.

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4. Nope ....

Now those who complain about war profiteering are hectored in the public square, by the megamedia outlets, AGAIN: owned by today's Chases, Mellons, Du Ponts ....

As if they give a shit about truth ....

[Occulus]

6. Yet they claim personhood be bestowed upon the corporation

Question: given corporations are persons for legal purposes, how are the FISA immunity legislation and the corporate bailouts (ALL of those) not examples of our Congress acting to the benefit of individuals and not the public good?

Corporations are persons for the purposes of law, right? So, corporate bailouts, logically speaking, are actually actions to benefit one single individual.

Am I correct?

[Bozita]

5. Here's a few interesting film reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B0002CR04A/ref=cm_...

How easily we fool ourselves, June 14, 2008
By wiser consumer (Medford, OR) - See all my reviews
This old movie is obviously well done but the full impact of it just sank in for me. This is not about how evil the German people were--they were and are no more evil than anyone else. The real message of this film is about how easily we can justify evil behavior when it's sold under the guise of patriotism. And how easily fear and self-interest leads to an inability to "see" the evil. Americans in particular ought to view this film again and again, with their eyes wide open.

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essential viewing, June 8, 2008
By S. Lbck - See all my reviews
I am old enough to have been deeply moved by JUDGEMENT at NURENBERG when it was first released, and decided to take another look at it while reading Sand's recent book, TORTURE TEAM: RUMSFELD'S MEMO AND THE BETRAYAL OF AMERICAN VALUES.

Many of the moral questions involving the Nazi judges who were on trial in this film's historical dramatization could be validly directed at the lawyers who recently justified (rationalized?) the apparent torture of prisoners at Guantanamo.

Should a new international tribunal be held? To help answer this question, I highly recommend visiting (or revisiting) this film in combination with Sand's book.

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Drama at its finest about right, wrong and very hard choices, June 22, 2002
By Linda Linguvic (New York City) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Judgment at Nuremberg (VHS Tape)
There's a serious and timeless theme to this award winning 1961 courtroom drama of four former Nazi judges on trial for war crimes in occupied Germany in 1948. It's not the story of the military leaders who had already been tried and convicted. Rather, these were the men who survived the war by following the laws that ruled the nation. There are deep moral questions here, such as what a judge's responsibility is. After all, judges do not make the laws; they just carry them out.
Stanley Kramer, the director, had great material to work with. The screenplay by Abby Mann was powerful. And the cast included some of the finest actors of the time. Spencer Tracy plays the judge, a widower from Maine with simple tastes. He's a bit embarrassed to be given a large house, formerly occupied by a high ranking Nazi officer whose surviving wife is played by Marlene Dietrich. The judge has a difficult job and he ponders it as he walks through the ruins of the city with wide-eyed wonder. How could all of the horror have happened? And who is responsible?

Responsibility, however, which is the theme of the film, is not so clear cut. And as the trial progresses, all the shades of gray involved in this concept are brought to light. Burt Lancaster is cast as one of the judges on trial, a dignified and respected man of the law. Richard Widmark is cast as the prosecuting attorney, a colonel who had personally been present at the liberation of the concentration camps. And Maximilian Schell, in an Academy Award winning performance, plays the part of the defending attorney whose outstanding legal expertise keeps shedding new light on the evidence. Judy Garland is one of the witnesses, and so is Montgomery Cliff. The entire cast is excellent. I found myself holding my breath as the twists and turns of the legal implications were examined with fine-honed brilliance.

The film takes up two videotapes and runs for three hours and six minutes and there is not one slow moment. I watched it with a sense of total involvement. I couldn't help but transpose all the legal and moral arguments to what is happening in our world today. And my own mind went though its own little debate as to the subtleties of right and wrong and the hard choices that must be made. This is drama at its finest. And a truly magnificent film. I give it my highest recommendation.

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