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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:03 AM
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Amy Goodman: AT&T Whistleblower Gets Cold Shoulder from Democrats in Congress
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AT&T Whistleblower Gets Cold Shoulder from Democrats in Congress

Posted by Democracy Now!, Democracy Now! at 3:10 PM on July 7, 2008.

"The Democratic Party and the Congress, in general, has been unfriendly to me..."



The Senate is expected to vote on a controversial measure to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act tomorrow. The legislation would rewrite the nation’s surveillance laws and authorize the National Security Agency’s secret program of warrantless wiretapping. We speak with Mark Klein, a technician with AT&T for over twenty-two years. In 2006 Klein leaked internal AT&T documents that revealed the company had set up a secret room in its San Francisco office to give the National Security Agency access to its fiber optic internet cables.

Mark Klein, former technician at AT&T for over twenty-two years. He discovered that internet traffic in AT&T operations centers was being regularly diverted to the National Security Agency. Klein is a witness in a lawsuit filed against AT&T by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which alleges AT&T illegally gave the NSA access to its networks.

AMY GOODMAN: The Senate is expected to vote on a controversial measure to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, tomorrow. The legislation would rewrite the nation’s surveillance laws and authorize the National Security Agency’s secret program of warrantless wiretapping. It gives the government new powers to eavesdrop on both domestic and international communications and could also grant immunity to phone companies involved in President Bush’s secret domestic spy program. The Democratic-controlled House approved its version of the bill late last month.

Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold, speaking on Democracy Now!, called the measure “one of the greatest intrusions, potentially, on the rights of Americans protected under the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution in the history of our country.”

I’m joined right now by a man who blew the whistle on the involvement of phone companies in the Bush administration’s domestic surveillance program. Mark Klein was a technician with AT&T for twenty-two years. In 2006, he leaked internal AT&T documents that revealed the company had set up a secret room in its San Francisco office to give the National Security Agency access to its fiber optic internet cables. He testified before Congress last November to urge lawmakers not to give A&T and other telecom companies immunity.

Mark Klein is also a witness in a lawsuit filed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which alleges AT&T illegally gave the National Security Agency access to its networks. Mark Klein joins us now from San Francisco, California.

Welcome to Democracy Now!

MARK KLEIN: Thank you. Good morning, Amy.

AMY GOODMAN: It’s very good have you with us. This is highly controversial, the vote that is expected to take place tomorrow, especially Senator Obama’s role in it. But let’s go back to the beginning, Mark Klein. Talk about how you found out about AT&T spying on Americans.

MARK KLEIN: Right. I first should add a correction: Congress never invited me to testify, although I did go to Washington to lobby, but no committee has ever invited me to testify, which says something about Congress.

But going back to 2002, we were told one day in late 2002 that an NSA representative was coming to the office to speak to a certain management technician about a special job. And this turned out to be installing a secret room in the next office I was going to be in the following year. And that secret room involved a lot of spying equipment. Only this one management technician could go in there, and the regular union technicians were not allowed to go in there.

But when—in 2003 I was assigned to that office, and I got hold of the documents which were available—they’re not classified—and the documents showed what they were doing. They were basically copying the entire data stream going across critical internet cables and copying the entire data stream to this secret room, so the NSA was getting everything. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/90687/




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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:08 AM
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1. "Congress never invited me to testify..no committee has ever invited me to testify"
Shocking, eh?
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:52 PM
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27. It would be if I wasn't so used to "shock and awe" by now.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:14 AM
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2. inconvenient truths are just that.
In this case, they are mirrors to the seedy, corrupted process we call Congress.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:15 AM
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3. "seedy, corrupted process we call Congress."
Sadly, I've got to say "Amen" to that. :cry:

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:30 AM
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4. Congress is disgraceful.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:32 AM
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5. Is it any wonder why they seek to help protect immunity?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:35 AM
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6. complicit corporate fucks!
:mad:


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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:30 AM
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7. This is why Ike called it the military industrial Congressional complex.

And also why he had to drop the 'Congressional' in public.


Fucked we are, and I have come to accept it.





Try to enjoy the descent.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:29 PM
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22. Where did you hear that . . . ???
I read that Ike called it . . . in a speech . . . "the military industrial intelligence comples" . . . and it was taken out. And then he put it back in again, and it was taken
out again!

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:55 AM
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33. Several places over the years - it's generally acknowledged but downplayed.
Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-industrial_complex

... In the penultimate draft of the address, Eisenhower initially used the term military-industrial-congressional complex, and thus indicated the essential role that the United States Congress plays in the propagation of the military industry. But, it is said, that the president chose to strike the word congressional in order to placate members of the legislative branch of the federal government. The actual authors of the term were Eisenhower's speech-writers Ralph Williams and Malcolm Moos. (3)

(3) Griffin, Charles "New Light on Eisenhower's Farewell Address," in Presidential Studies Quarterly 22 (Summer 1992): 469-479


A military industrial complex needs lots of money, and Congress is where they hand it out in big piles.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:10 AM
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8. ALL COMMUNICATIONS routed overseas to circumvent US law and the Constitution
Deja DU: Are ALL COMMUNICATIONS routed overseas to circumvent US law and the Constitution?
Nov-09-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2245762

I was told years ago that ALL fiber optic communication traffic was routed overseas so that "everything" was moved outside the protections of the law and Constitution and ANYTHING could be monitored. I thought the idea quite fantastic even though it came from a very reliable source that would know exactly such things. Then, the story of the fiber optic splitters hit my radar. I now see now how easily exactly that, routing ALL COMMUNICATIONS overseas, was accomplished.

Is that Bush's and the Telecom's HUGE crime hidden and covered-up behind this story?

If the telecoms get immunity, will it aid in covering up Bush's crime.
ABSOLUTELY! That is why it is so important to the Rs! Support = obstruction of justice.

Have we arrived at the point in the history of the Bushco junta where
laws passed and people nominated are part of crimes of obstructing justice?

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AT&T Whistleblower: Telecom Immunity Is A Cover-Up
By Spencer Ackerman - Nov 7, 2007
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004662.php


Earlier today we flagged that Mark Klein, who uncovered a secret surveillance room run by the NSA while employed as a San Francisco-based technician for AT&T, is in Washington to lobby against granting retroactive legal immunity to telecommunications companies. In an interview this afternoon, Klein explained why he traveled all the way from San Francisco to lobby Senators about the issue: if the immunity provision passes, Americans may never know how extensive the surveillance program was -- or how deeply their privacy may have been invaded.

"The president has not presented this truthfully," said Klein, a 62-year old retiree. "He said it was about a few people making calls to the Mideast. But I know this physical equipment. It copies everything. There's no selection of anything, at all -- the splitter copies entire data streams from the internet, phone conversations, e-mail, web-browsing. Everything."

What Klein unearthed -- you can read it here -- points to a nearly unbounded surveillance program. Its very location in San Francisco suggests that the program was "massively domestic" in its focus, he said. "If they really meant what they say about only wanting international stuff, you wouldn't want it in San Francisco or Atlanta. You'd want to be closer to the border where the lines come in from the ocean so you pick up international calls. You only do it in San Francisco if you want domestic stuff. The location of this stuff contradicts their story .....

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NSA Monitors All Web Traffic, Says Ex-AT&T Employee

NSA Monitors All Web Traffic, Says Ex-AT&T Employee
Tom Corelis (Blog) - Nov 10, 2007
http://www.dailytech.com/NSA+Monitors+All+Web+Traffic+Says+ExATT+Employee/article9620.htm


Felt "forced to the connect the Big Brother Machine" if he wanted to keep his job

Mark Klein, the former AT&T technician and whistleblower who helped kick off the AT&T/NSA eavesdropping scandal, clarified further details regarding what he witnessed while connecting a secret NSA eavesdropping facility: secure room 641A in AT&T’s San Francisco switching center, presumably commissioned by the NSA, received copies of all the traffic its splitters were connected to, including both international and domestic e-mails, web traffic, and phone calls, both from AT&T’s customers as well as other providers.

Previous statements by the government, AT&T and President Bush indicated that the only affected communications are communications relevant to national security, like those of suspected terrorists and suspicious foreign nationals. According to Klein, however, the technology used to connect the secure room was far more democratic, consisting of simple, dumb splitters incapable of any kind of contextual filtering: essentially, room 641A received “a duplicate of every fiber-optic signal routed through facilities.”

Klein, appearing on MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann show, told viewers about his personal association with secure room 641A. “When I was a technician, I had the engineering/wiring documents, which told me how the splitter was wired to the secret room … I had to know in order to do my job,” he said, “so I know that whatever went across those cables was copied; the entire datastream was copied into the secret room.”

Referring to the equipment itself, Klein states, “the splitter device has no selective capability, it just copies everything. .............

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Interview: AT&T Whistleblower Mark Klein on Bush's Illegal Surveillance and Retroactive Immunity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0dJJhLueEg

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NSA Pressured LA Times To Kill Domestic Spying Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOI1VGKcgGY

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November 5th, 2007
AT&T Whistleblower to Urge Senate to Reject Blanket Immunity for Telecoms
Press Conference on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, November 7
http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2007/11/05

Washington, D.C. - On Wednesday, November 7, at 10:30am, telecommunications technician and AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein will speak out at a press conference on Capitol Hill, explaining why he is asking lawmakers to reject immunity for telecoms who assisted the Bush administration's spying on millions of Americans.

Klein witnessed first-hand the technology AT&T built to assist the government's domestic warrantless wiretapping program at AT&T's main switching facility in San Francisco. As part of his job at AT&T, Klein connected high-speed fiber optic cables to sophisticated equipment that intercepted communications from AT&T customers and then copied and routed every single one to a room controlled by the National Security Agency (NSA). Klein has provided evidence for the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) class-action lawsuit against AT&T for its role in the illegal spying.

"My job required me to enable the physical connections between AT&T customers' Internet communications and the NSA's illegal, wholesale copying machine for domestic emails, Internet phone conversations, web surfing and all other Internet traffic. I have first-hand knowledge of the clandestine collaboration between one giant telecommunications company, AT&T, and the National Security Agency to facilitate the most comprehensive illegal domestic spying program in history," said Klein.

Also speaking at the event Wednesday ...........

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Judge Orders Telecommunications Companies to Preserve Evidence in Government Surveillance Cases
Ruling Advances EFF's Class-action Lawsuit Against AT&T
http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2007/11/06


San Francisco - A federal judge today ruled on a preservation motion filed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), ordering that telecommunications companies must preserve any evidence of collaborating with the government in illegal spying on ordinary Americans.

In his ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker ordered the telecommunications companies to halt any routine destruction of documents or to arrange for the preservation of accurate copies. On December 14, each party must provide the court with confirmation that the court's order has been carried out. The court order did not require the government or the carriers to reveal whether or not they had any relevant evidence.

The government and the carriers had opposed the preservation motion, claiming that the government's invocation of the state secrets privilege made it impossible to proceed with a preservation order. In litigation, parties are typically required to preserve all relevant evidence.

For the judge's order:
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/393%20order.pdf

For more on the class-action lawsuit against AT&T:
http://www.eff.org/cases/att

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:44 AM
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9. That's exactly the point!
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 10:45 AM by Hydra
The Dems want to have everyone swallow the line that this is about fighting terrorists.

I bet they are catching LOTS of terrorists while they are busy looking over our shoulder 24/7.:sarcasm:

I wonder when they'll volunteer to have us look over their shoulders at all of their "classified projects"
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:29 PM
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10. Interesting....isn't it?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:44 PM
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11. This is why I stopped donating to the general Democratic Congress orgs...

they aren't on our side.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:42 PM
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25. same here...better to focus on specific progressive candidates
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:43 PM
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12. Unfrickenbelievable. n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:43 PM
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13. Nothing to see here, move along...
Does anyone doubt that all this so-called "oversight" is nothing more than a prolonged Kabuki dance for our benefit?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:46 PM
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14. K&R
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 06:46 PM by Moochy
This explains some of the actions of our congresscritters :(
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:20 PM
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15. "but when a long train of abuses...
& usurpations, begun at a distinguished period, & pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to subject them to arbitrary power, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government & to provide new guards for their future security."


Are we there yet?
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THale2 Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:26 PM
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16. Question for someone
can someone tell me if the supreme court could overturn a ruling of the house and senate and uphold the fourth amendment like guantanomo
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:53 PM
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28. I would think yes, right folks?
if someone sued the gov't and it went to the Supreme Court and they sided with us. We are a nation of laws, but ultimately, the court rules supreme, if I am thinking right, if citizens take a case to them to have them review....
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CubicleGuy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:29 AM
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34. But first...
if someone sued the gov't and it went to the Supreme Court and they sided with us.

But first, said "someone" would have to prove that they had standing in the matter, i.e., that they personally had been harmed by the actions of AT&T.

There is a group with standing in the matter, but the Bush Administration has claimed that the evidence provided to prove the group's standing is a "state secret" and as such, can not be used as evidence, and therefore, the suit has to be thrown out.

Orwell's Winston Smith would be so proud.
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CubicleGuy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:12 PM
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35. Here's a link to an article...
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 04:13 PM by CubicleGuy
... describing the "Alice in Wonderland" hoops the legal team for the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation Inc. has thus far had to jump through in their lawsuit against Bush:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/07/09/alharamain_lawsuit/index.html
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:22 PM
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36. well that's most unfortunate, then, isn't it.... eom
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:39 PM
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17. Sorry folks, but the dems have failed us on this one. BIG TIME

No, I am not saying vote for John McCain or sit out the election. I am saying that we have a bunch of corporately owned Dems (with a few exceptions) that we must replace over the next several years with true democrats. It has been sickening to watch this thing ESPECIALLY since Reid could have stopped this from ever coming to the floor.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:47 PM
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18. Well... There Ya Go
complicit
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:56 PM
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19. Nader does have a point .
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:34 PM
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24. What did he say . . .???

Saw him on C-span the other day . . .

They ran about a 15/20 minute interview ---

Amazing how much he can say in that time!

And how little our Dems can say in that time!


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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:16 PM
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20. I noticed severe nervousness in Marc Klein while on
DemocracyNow! I don't know how these people get through a single day.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:26 PM
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21. What a shame that such courage rises and the Democrats shun it . . . !!!
What in the hell is wrong with this party . . . ????

Thanks Amy Goodman!

Thanks Mark Klein!


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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:33 PM
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23. Expectations suck.
Even when they're justified, apparently. Sure, we expect Republicans to act like Republicans. There was a time when we could expect Democrats to act like Democrats. WAS a time. We can continue to put (R) next to a Republican's name. But Democrats, with very few exceptions, don't deserve a (D) next to their names; instead, their names should be given thusly - Pelosi (WTF), Reid (WTF), etc.
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:28 PM
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26. very soon we will learn that....
Pelosi and a number of her Dem colleagues were complicit. They knew about the whole thing... agreed with the whole idea. And you have to admit it was a very clever ploy by powers that pull the bush strings, to get the Dems involved. Not they get off, no questions asked.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:35 PM
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29. Why wouldn't he? Dems stand for corporatism
The no-impeachment, no-end-to-war Democrats will hardly stand up for a mere whistleblower on privacy issues when they won't tackle war or the economy.

Some days, I can't remember why I bother with this party...
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:13 AM
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30. My response to a DSCC fundraising email:
"I am not donating to the DSCC any more because of Obama's and the Senate's disgraceful behavior in the FISA vote. You're all a bunch of craven cowering maggots for supporting this bill. Don't ever contact me again.

NBachers
San Francisco"
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:06 AM
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31. A very corrupt congress overrules justice and the law, this is the change you can believe in.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:30 AM
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32. shame on those dems. mark klein is a fucking HERO for speaking out! n/t
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