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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:01 AM
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NPR just did a piece on the 'rock star' david petreaus
what an egomanic.....sets aside one day a week to deal with all the people who want to have pictures taken with him.....'he struts onstage like dean martin without the drink'...

i think my npr dollars might be better spent come their next money drive...
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:06 AM
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1. They did a "glowing" piece about McCain's Navy career this morning
Heard it on Morning Edition as I drove to work. Apparently, they will be doing one about Obama tomorrow. I won't hold my breath for them to heap even half the amount of praise on Obama as they did on McCain.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:07 AM
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2. that was right before the petreaus piece....a double whammy
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:12 AM
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3. They must have started the Petraeus piece right after I got to the office n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:35 AM
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8. Hm. I guess you were expecting a leftwing bashing of McCain.
It was fairly balanced. Here's the story accompanying the audio:

McCain's First (And Only) Military Command

by Scott Horsley

Morning Edition, July 8, 2008 · When John McCain was finally released, after five-and-a-half years as a POW in Vietnam, he was anxious to get back in the cockpit and resume his Navy career. It took grueling physical therapy to repair his broken body. But eventually, he was cleared to fly again. And in the summer of 1976, he was given command of the Navy's largest air squadron, based at Cecil Field in Jacksonville, Fla.

It wasn't a wartime command. And McCain wasn't responsible for ordering bombs to fall, as retired Gen. Wesley Clark pointed out last week. But the experience is instructive: It's the only period in his life when McCain actually ran something bigger than a Senate office or a presidential campaign.

"I learned a lot from him," said Ross Fischer, a flight instructor who served under McCain. Fischer now runs a charter airline based in Florida. "I run my company pretty much like John McCain ran his squadron."

Audacious Goal

Interviews with a half-dozen former subordinates suggest McCain ran his squadron with a clear goal, a lot of listening and the sheer force of his personality. There were about 750 officers and enlisted men in the squadron — VA-174. Their mission was to train pilots and crews for the A-7 light attack jet. The A-7 was plagued by maintenance problems and parts shortages in that period of postwar downsizing. When McCain took over, nearly one-third of the planes were grounded. And some senior lieutenants said there was no way to change that.

"That, of course, wasn't good enough for McCain," said former flight instructor Carl Smith. "So what McCain did was reassign those people. You could say fired them. But we say reassigned. So it was a case of bringing together new people and new ideas to change the course of the squadron."

McCain set an audacious goal of getting nearly all the planes flying again. To do so, he took the unusual step of promoting people from down in the ranks into key positions. He convinced his superiors to let him cannibalize parts from idle aircraft. And mostly, he acted as a cheerleader, egging on the maintenance crews with the same outsized personality that's helped him on the campaign trail.

"He'd usually start out by kidding the chief petty officer in there, giving him a hard time. And the guys just loved it," said Smith. "It changed the whole atmosphere of the squadron. The attitude was one of excitement. Prior to him, I think most people in the squadron had a sort of 9-to-5 mentality. But attitudes changed rather quickly."

Thirteen months later, just hours before McCain turned over the squadron, the last of the balky A-7s took off, with Smith at the controls.

Long-Term Benefits?

Meeting that goal was largely symbolic. From military records , it doesn't appear to have translated into more pilots trained, or more hours flown. But there were some notable firsts under McCain's command, including the first woman pilot trained in a light attack plane, and the squadron's first Meritorious Unit Commendation . The Secretary of the Navy noted that while McCain was in charge, VA-174 set a safety record for hours flown without an accident.

"He put the fear of God into his pilots, including his student pilots, and said, ''You better do it by the book. Do it safely. Because if you don't, you'll be seeing me personally," recalls Bob Stumpf, a student pilot under McCain who went on to command the Blue Angels.

Stumpf chuckled at some of the TV ads this spring asking which presidential candidate is best prepared for that "3 a.m. phone call." Once, while standing watch, Stumpf actually had to call McCain at 3 a.m.

"It had to do with one of our sailors being arrested and put in jail downtown. And I think he knew a thing or two about incarceration," Stumpf said of McCain. "He says, 'Let him stay there awhile. Go get him tomorrow.' "

The stakes are obviously higher when the phone rings at the White House. And it's harder to run a country than it is to charm a hangar full of sailors — or even a busload of political reporters. Smith hints at both the power — and the limits — of McCain's personality-driven leadership, when he says that six months after McCain gave up command, the squadron had fallen back into its old, average habits.

"Glowing" is not how I would describe this.

Here's the link to the audio:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92308526

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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:02 AM
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11. I agree; the McCain piece was not glowing
Two quotes from the piece:
"It's the only period in his life when McCain actually ran something bigger than a Senate office or a presidential campaign."
"Smith hints at both the power — and the limits — of McCain's personality-driven leadership,..."

"Personality driven leadership" is less than what we expect from a leader. We want him to be smart.

The Petreus "rock star" event was military-connected. They have to believe that the surge is working.

As for NPR, it's the only public radio that even comes close to being balanced. Diane Rehm and Terry Gross air wonderful balanced interviews.

I support NPR. Remember that the neocons have cut their funding and would like to cut them even more.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:17 AM
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4. I'm listening to an NPR piece about why Hispanic voters are disillusioned with the GOP.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 09:17 AM by Buzz Clik
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:27 AM
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5. well that's a no brainer
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:30 AM
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6. Don't just leave them high and dry at the next Beg-A-Thon
Call and tell them why you're not donating. Those volunteers in the bull-pen get bored and trade experiences. New arguments, well presented with new perpectives might leave a few demoralized or better yet, angry.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:32 AM
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7. It says a lot, though, that attendees can't display their "souvenirs."
Yeah, it's nice to get that little autographed pic, but showing it may get you offed in Iraq.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:36 AM
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9. NPR lost me 8 years ago. Mara Liason? Juan Williams? Cokie? No way.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:52 AM
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10. It's once every six weeks.
I'm confused at your objection to this story. You'd rather they find some way to imply that the soldiers in Iraq hate him?

One thing that always amuses me about people who hate NPR. National Public Radio is not for those who want to be spoon fed ideological rhetoric. You are given a series of facts and streams of information. It is then up to you to put it all together. I find it refreshing.

And to those who happily claim that they listen but don't donate -- don't worry because I donate enough for all of us.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:13 AM
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13. thank you , you can take up my slack
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:12 AM
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12. National Propaganda Radio. nt
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