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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:33 PM
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Woman shoots self while trying to kill mice
A Mendocino County woman who was trying to kill mice in her trailer with a gun ended up shooting herself and another person.

Sheriff's officials say the 43-year-old woman pulled out her .44-caliber Magnum revolver after she saw the mice scurrying across the floor of her trailer on Highway 20 in Potter Valley.

But she accidentally dropped the gun, which went off as it struck the floor. The bullet went through the woman's kneecap, bounced off the keys sitting on the belt loop of a 42-year-old man in the trailer and grazed the man's groin before ending up in his coin pocket.

Authorities did not release the shooting victims' names.

The mice escaped the shooting unharmed.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/07/08/state/n090328D73.DTL
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:35 PM
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1. We need a Non-Lethal Darwin Award category.
there's just too many maimed stupid people limping around.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:41 PM
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15. They do have Honorable mentions for people who survive
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:36 PM
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2. A 44 to kill mice???
Meth makes you do stupid things! Or, maybe she's an employee of Blackwater!!! Shoot first... Oh, wait, the mouse is on my boyfriend! Git the gun!!!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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5. When you're battling a small rodent, you need superior fire power.
Everybody knows that.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:10 PM
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27. Hunter wouldn't have dreamed of using anything less.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:10 PM
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38. Varmint Cong
They never quit.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:52 AM
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77. Then Why Not An RPG?!?!?
Now THAT would have gotten those mice!
GAC
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ejbrush Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:24 PM
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51. Gotta aim right between the eyes...
Sometimes they'll charge when they're wounded.
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:52 AM
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72. A .416 Rigby would be my choice for household pests.
From mice to rhinos, and everything in between.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:36 PM
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3. And it turns out they were only shortbread mice...
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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4. Thank You Fahletinme Shoot Mice Elf
Again.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:17 AM
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56. OMG!!!
*ZING*
:rofl:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:30 AM
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63. Ouch.
I mean, fookin' hilarious. Thanks, I needed that.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:41 AM
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67. That was freakin' brilliant...
And as a long time Sly fan, I'm disappointed I didn't come up with it myself :)

:applause:

Sid
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:42 AM
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69. Awesome!
My band covers that song, and now I'm gonna be inserting "shoot" into the lyrics!

mikey_the_rat
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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6. .44 magnum is a tad overkill for a mouse
imho
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:29 PM
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54. Dunno: sounds t'me like she mighta had better luck wid a bazooka
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:45 AM
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58. You got to get them on the first shot.
Mice will charge if they're wounded.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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7. A .44 Magnum is definitely overkill for a mouse
But she accidentally dropped the gun, which went off as it struck the floor.

That is almost certainly bullshit. No modern firearm in good working condition will fire from being dropped a short distance. She probably tried to catch the gun as it was falling.

NEVER TRY TO CATCH A DROPPED KNIFE OR GUN!
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:45 PM
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17. Now that's stupid
When I drop my kitchen knife I jump back, what kind of idiot would try to catch a gun? Oh, this person. I've never used a gun in my life but it's hard to imagine how dropping it without trying to catch it would fire it, wouldn't it have to involve some amazing Hollywood fall hitting something right on the trigger? :shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:47 PM
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18. We do know that she lives in a trailer and is dumb enough to try to shoot a mouse with a handgun
That's dumb enough to try to catch a dropped gun.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:15 PM
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42. Golly Slack---That Sounds Like Cultural Bias (n/t)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:34 AM
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75. It's only OK for gun-grabbers to stereotype gun owners as toothless rednecks
I stereotype stupid people as stupid.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:32 AM
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64. Are you implying that someone who lives in a trailer is dumb?
Excuse me, but I live in a mobile home and I am anything but dumb. Blonde, yes, but dumb, no.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:33 AM
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74. It's a stereotype often assigned to people who own firearms
That they are uneducated and poor.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:20 PM
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43. Apparently not
The mice are still alive but one knee cap is trapped.

A cat is so much cheaper.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:07 PM
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48. I bet she didn't try to catch it either. I bet she doesn't really remember what happened.
I bet that she and her boyfriend were messing around with the gun and when they both ended up shot they came up with the best excuse they could think of in their condition.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:25 AM
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79. By George, I think you've got it! nt
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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8. "grazed the groin"? Yikes!!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:59 PM
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35. Did you read the whole route the bullet took? Shades of JFK!
The bullet went through the woman's kneecap, bounced off the keys sitting on the belt loop of a 42-year-old man in the trailer and grazed the man's groin before ending up in his coin pocket.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:45 PM
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46. That "ricochet" sounds really dubious.
I can't imagine a bullet with the energy of a .44 Magnum bouncing off a guy's keys, unless one of them is a giant key made of half-inch thick metal plating. And the groin -> coin pocket thing is just bizarre. I suspect both of them were really wasted and made up some incoherent story to cover for whatever they were doing.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:37 PM
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9. No Cure For Stupid
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:10 PM
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26. I love it!!!
:thumbsup:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:38 PM
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10. Everybody knows you use .22 long rifle for
mice. Shhesh!:crazy:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:50 PM
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21. Yep, that's why they make "rat shot" ammo for .22
Rat shot is basically a .22 cal shotgun round with tiny little shot

I used to use a plastic cooler with swivel handles for catching mice

Prop the cooler up on one handle that you have tied a long cord to.

smear some peanut butter on the floor under the cooler

sit back and wait while holding the cord

when a mouse goes after the bait pull cord causing cooler to slam shut over the mouse

slide thin cardboard under cooler carefully then flip the cooler over

now you can safely transport the mouse elsewhere

Hint: you need to have a lot of time to kill and no heart to kill the mouse
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:31 PM
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52. It STILL would have made a big ol' mess in the best possible situation
Not to mention the holes in the floor/walls/furniture.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:40 PM
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11. More guns! More guns!
They make me feel safe with gun owners like that in the world.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:24 PM
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30. People like this are dangerous with a bread knife
flaming idiots. Nothing you can do for them.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:40 PM
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12. I think I saw this cartoon one Saturday morning long, long ago (n/t)
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:41 PM
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13. That had to hurt!
But her friend has a cool souvenir.;-)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:41 PM
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14. I know what you're thinking.
I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:51 AM
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71. Yeah, lacking a 44, she would have been forced to use a hatchet, or a chainsaw
Then that guy's groin would be in much worse shape.

Phew!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:42 PM
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16. now that's a magic bullet
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:48 PM
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19. Never bring a gun to a mice fight
n/t
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:50 PM
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20. Only a .44 Mag to take on MICE? . . . Is she crazy? You need REAL firepower for mice. . .
something in a semi-automatic I would think, maybe even a hand grenade just to be certain.

Silly woman. Woefully unprepared for life's emergencies.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:50 PM
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22. I think a mouse in a trailer calls for "Kill it with FIRE!"
:rofl:
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:51 PM
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23. Stupid is as stupid does
:shrug:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:53 PM
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24. One of these has always worked for me
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:53 PM
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25. I much prefer the Wheel of Death
Got rid of my Dad's rifle and installed the Wheel of Death instead.

Big bucket ( ex. a drywall container) with two holes at the top. Put holes in an empty can. Cover the can with peanut butter and birdseed. Thread it onto a coat hanger wire, inserted into the holes in bucket.

Fill the bucket 3/4 full with antifreeze if going to be gone a long time. Otherwise water, if checking frequently.

Make a handy "ramp" to the death treat/trap.

They go for the treat and spin into the Great Beyond.

Works amazingly well.

Note - if using antifreeze - put well out of reach of dogs.

The antifreeze keeps the critters from decomposing.

So -- Ugh -- but it works.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:11 PM
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28. If everyone carried a cat, this would never have happened!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:14 PM
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40. Yeah but you'd need
a CCC permit for that and they haven't been invented yet.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:39 AM
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65. HAH! nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:20 PM
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29. How stupid. A pick-axe would have made more sense.
:rofl:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:33 PM
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31. Sounds like our glorious military in Iraq - complete with collateral damage.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:54 PM
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32. She hates meeces to pieces




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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:05 PM
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47. LOL
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:55 PM
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33. Damn it all. If she'd been trained, those mice would never have escaped to terrorize someone else.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 07:57 PM by uppityperson
I mean, really! Everyone has the Right to defend themselves against mice! What are we turning into? A nation of cowards, huddling fearfully behind a couch while waiting for Vermin Control to come set traps? Those mice may go on to terrorize other people in the neighborhood!

I just don't know what she was thinking. Steinbeck had it right, of mice and men. What would she do if confronted by a Bad Guy(tm)?













:sarcasm: since my sarcastic posts seem to be taken seriously enough recently to get on ignore lists.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:08 PM
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37. There is actually a kernel of truth in there.
She was obviously unaware of basic firearm safety (a massive understatement, I know), and another case where training and education (unfortunately common sense cannot be bought or sold) is sorely needed.






PS, as a side note, I wish to apologize for coming off as insulting in our previous interaction. You were completely civil and I appreciate that. I do enjoy a civil yet vigorous debate over personal attacks and histrionics.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:13 PM
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39. There is indeed truth in her not being trained.
Just thought I'd take it to an extreme and thank you.

Not on your ignore list, eh? I managed one by copy/pasting what he/she said to me. Oh well.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:30 PM
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45. Ignore list? Puhlease...
I don't need no stinking ignore list.
I'm certain we agree more than we disagree, current topic excepted.
Some here forget that and insist on an "us" versus "them" mentality on the same side of the aisle.

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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:42 AM
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68. But you're an equal opportunity insulter.
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 07:42 AM by zanne
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:58 PM
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34. "....in her trailer..." - I suppose I could make some sort of
comment about trailer "trash" and banjo-pickin' toothless dudes but then I would just get jumped all over.......
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:01 PM
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36. She's never heard of a mouse trap? What a dumbass.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:15 PM
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41. You know what's sad? In the best possible scenario...
... the woman would have still ended up with a large hole somewhere in her trailer and mouse juice everywhere.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:22 PM
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44. A .44 slug does not simply "graze" one's groin.
Akin to Dennis Miller commenting that "there's no such thing as a slight groin pull."

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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:20 PM
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49. Darwin strikes again. What a moron.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:22 PM
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50. Why does she have to live in a trailer?
Man, that's giving mobile home communities a bad name.

-Hoot
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:38 PM
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53. Thank goodness the more intelligent of the two escaped harm!
:evilgrin:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:51 AM
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55. meth amphetamine
the stupid drug. I'll check the police blotter this week and I'll bet there will include an arrest for drugs.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:20 AM
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57. Wow..

it must make you *really* stupid!
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:04 AM
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59. "The mice escaped the shooting unharmed."
Well, at least the smart ones in that place made it out okay!
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OkieD Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:11 AM
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60. At least
she didn't shoot him in the face.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:27 AM
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61. I'm betting that Stevens is emailing this story to Scalia this am. (nt)
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:29 AM
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62. It's called "thinning the herd".
This is the closest thing humans have to natural selection, having freed ourselves from nature's version.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:41 AM
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66. I'm still waiting for the NRA to trumpet this heroic story of someone
using a gun to defend their home.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:46 AM
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70. They'll just include in their "statistics" without giving details...nt
Sid
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:59 AM
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73. Here's footage:
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JMackT Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:44 AM
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76. Much better choices available
Although when killing something, overkill is usually leads to a quicker death.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:54 AM
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78. we can't educate people in general but let's
educate them on using guns wisely and properly. that's more important than knowledge about the world.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:38 AM
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80. Next time I suggest using a glue trap or getting a kitty.
Wait a minute, forget about the kitty. I wouldn't feel comfortable allowing that woman to be around any living thing.
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