Steve Wilson: Some Vaccines Still Contain Mercury -- transcript and video

[Bozita]

http://www.wxyz.com/content/news/investigators/story.aspx?content_id=599da2da-f75e-4844-952e-1241f33b57fd

Wilson: Some Vaccines Still Contain Mercury

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It’s the controversy that won’t go away. Is the skyrocketing rate of Autism in children due in any way to the mercury long contained in childhood vaccines? It’s an issue our chief investigative reporter Steve Wilson has stayed with from the start…and Steve will science ever answer this one?

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It could happen one day but only if researchers keep looking… and with 1 in 150 children now diagnosed with Autism in this country—more than 100 new, young victims every single day—a lot of skeptical parents and others believe there’s a big incentive for industry and government to cover up the truth.

Dr. Renee Jenkins, M.D./Pediatrician: I don’t think anybody is saying you want to inject mercury. (Wilson) Why would I do it? Why would I allow it to happen? (Jenkins) Well, for routine vaccinations, we don’t allow it to happen.”

A loving grandmother and president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, Dr. Renee Jenkins is among those in medicine, in government, in the media, pretty much telling parents this problem’s been solved…there is no mercury in the routine schedule of childhood vaccines anymore, except maybe just “trace” amounts. She’s talking about a mercury-based vaccine preservative called Thimerosal…and the truth is there’s still as much as ever in 11 vaccines including most flu vaccines injected into pregnant women and kids, and some of them younger than 9 get two doses in a season. And also high levels of mercury from Thimerosal in tetanus shots and the boosters routinely injected into 11-year-olds…and also in some meningitis and diphtheria-tetanus formulas, too.

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[Ian David]

1. Are you trying to murder children by causing them to get measles, mumps and rubella?

Go peddle your irresponsible bullshit elsewhere.

[postulater]

2. I had measles, mumps and rubella.

Wow, I must be dead.

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. I've had kids with measles. I have a kid with autism.

Measles is better.

[Ian David]

5. Death is worse. n/t

[varkam]

17. Totally! Do you want to know how much mercury is in the MMR vaccine?

None. Not a single drop of it. Never has been.

[Ian David]

4. Hope springs eternal. n/t

[varkam]

16. Someone missed the logic train.

Your retort seems to be the following

P1: I have had measles, mumps, and rubella.
P2: I am not dead.
--
C: Therefore, these illnesses are never fatal.

[Bozita]

6. That report just aired on the #1 rated news station in a major market.

That's the story.

Sorry to hear of your my-way-or-the-highway approach.

[varkam]

19. Which doesn't mean that story is accurate or true.

I mean, Fox News is pretty popular, right?

As a rule, media does a terrible job of science reporting - especially when it comes to this issue.

[seabeyond]

7. are you f*kin for real. so f*ck the children if they are disposible for the greater good?

f*ck trying to find an answer and a solution so ALL children are protected.

instead, ..... dont find solution, dont find problem, dont do research, for the greater good and IF we have children being damaged they are simply collateral.....

and accuse of murder

that is such restrictively limited and irresponsible behavior

you havent dealt with these children that are effected a lifetime. the bases of who they are changed forever

fuck that shit

if you dont piss me off the greatest with your cavalier attitude to children effected, being damaged

how arrogant and totally lacking in compassion

[Ian David]

10. Are you serious? NOT immunizing kills children. The Japanese already paid a HUGE price in lives...

... for your kind of willful ignorance.

[earth mom]

13. Obviously the ignorant one is YOU.

:puke:

[varkam]

18. Good to see you're still, erm, treating people like you want to be treated...

TheGoldenRule. :hi:

[Ian David]

24. The GOLDEN "Something" anyway.

[Ian David]

25. Thanks for your input, GoldenSomething. n/t

[seabeyond]

20. WHERE did i say NOT immunize the kids. where, anywhere on any post

did i say not to immunize the kid.

there is a problem. instead of hiding, denying or saying MURDER.... or what? NOT immunize kids when that has not been said at all

what bullshit

i say we KNOW there is a problem. dont shrug your shoulders and dismiss ALL the kids that are being effected and changed. solve the problem and PROTECT ALL the kids.

what a totally ignorant way to argue. i get that so much. if someone is called on something they pull up a totally bogus argument that has not been presented

war in iraq is a failure.... so you say we should let terrorist KILL us...

bullshit

[Ian David]

23. I don't mean any offense, but I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to say.

Can you please make one point at a time?

And be sure that each sentence has a subject and a verb.

I honestly can't tell what we agree on and what we're arguing about.

It's possible that you have a very important point to make and that you feel very strongly about something.

Can you have a friend help you put down what you're thinking into a form that people can understand?

That would be so helpful.

Thanks!

[LeftishBrit]

29. Who said that children are disposable?

What people are saying is that research indicates that mercury in vaccines is not the cause of autism. Not that it's OK if it is.

Moreover, the MMR does *not* contain mercury.

I think mercury should be removed from all vaccines on general safety principle; but that is unlikely to make any difference to autism. In the UK, the vaccines given to children haven't contained mercury for a long time (some flu vaccines do, but most children here don't get the flu vaccine). Yet the incidence of autism is at least as high here as in the USA.

I think there needs to be much more research on the real factors involved in autism. So far, we know that genetics play an important part, and so do extreme prematurity and other birth complications. There needs IMO to be more research on the effects of *prenatal* exposure to infections and pollutants.

[varkam]

30. Quit stinkin' up this thread with facts.

Sheesh. What do you think this is, a medical journal? :crazy:

[Ian David]

32. Autism rises despite MMR ban in Japan. Measles epidemic strikes Japan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=222&topic_id=37844&mesg_id=37846

[noonwitch]

12. Steve Wilson is an idiot

one of the reasons I can't stand the local Detroit newsmedia. As much as I am disgusted with Kwame Kilpatrick, I am equally disgusted with Steve Wilson for stalking Kwame everywhere he goes.

[leftchick]

8. ah fuck!

I just had my 11 year old get the booster yesterday! :cry:

[krispos42]

9. Except it's a mercury compound, not pure mercury.

This changes the potential reactions chemically, although since we have other things to use as a preservative we should be using that instead.

[Ian David]

11. If they would just change the fucking preservative, they'd end the controversy.

I expect they will be using it until their patent expires.

[varkam]

28. Except that it is not a legitimate controversy.

IOW, it is not a scientific controversy. The book is all but closed on the mercury/autism hypothesis. The only people for whom it remains a controversy are those people who believed in the whole thing to begin with.

[Ian David]

31. Proctor & Gamble changed their logo because some idiots thought it depicted Satan.

If it makes the woo-woos feel better, and helps them more effectively market their product, then maybe they should just change the preservative.

[MinM]

14. Steve Wilson Rocks!

Reporters Blow Whistle on FOX News
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x86273

[Initech]

21. If you're talking about THIS Steve Wilson, then I agree:

http://www.porcupinetree.com

[varkam]

15. What a load of tripe. That's worse than Kirby, which is tough to do.

In a strange way, Mr. Wilson should be proud of his stellar awfulness.

There is exactly zero mercury present in any of the recommended vaccines given to infants, in addition there are thimerosal-free formulations of flu vaccines.

The rest of his article is bogus innuendo and improper appeal to authority. I'm sincerely hoping he didn't go to school to call himself a "journalist".

[Initech]

22. That could explain a lot...

[Book Lover]

26. Yet evidence like this is ignored by these fools

http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/07/10/D91R4TT80_med_autism_genes/index.html

Some earlier research had pointed to the same underlying problem, so these newly found genes "join a growing list to suggest that autism is a synaptic disorder," he said.

If that sounds discouraging, here's the good news: The missing DNA didn't always translate into missing genes. Instead what usually was missing were the on/off switches for these autism-related genes. Essentially, some genes were asleep instead of doing their synapse work.

"I find that hopeful" because "there are ways that are being discovered to activate genes," Walsh said. "This might be an unanticipated way of developing therapies in the long term for autism: Identifying these kids where all the right genes are present, just not turned on in the right way."

[Ian David]

27. A natural alternative for those who refuse to vaccinate their children...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x37819

[Ian David]

33. 1. Autism rises despite MMR ban in Japan. Measles epidemic strikes Japan

# 10:35 03 March 2005
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# Andy Coghlan

Parents need have no more fears about the triple vaccine against measles, mumps and rubella. A study of more than 30,000 children in Japan should put the final nail in the coffin of the claim that the MMR vaccine is responsible for the apparent rise in autism in recent years.

The study shows that in the city of Yokohama the number of children with autism continued to rise after the MMR vaccine was replaced with single vaccines. "The findings are resoundingly negative," says Hideo Honda of the Yokohama Rehabilitation Center.

In the UK, parents panicked and vaccination rates plummeted after gastroenterologist Andrew Wakefield claimed in a 1998 study that MMR might trigger autism, although the study was based on just 12 children and later retracted by most of its co authors.

Soon the vaccine was being blamed for the apparent rise in autism, with Wakefield citing data from California, US (see graph). In some parts of the UK, the proportion of children receiving both doses of the MMR vaccine has dropped to 60%. This has led to a rise in measles outbreaks and fears of an epidemic.

Not one epidemiological study has revealed a link between the vaccine and autism. But until now they have all concentrated on what happened after MMR vaccination for children was introduced. Honda's is the first to look at the autism rate after the MMR vaccine has been withdrawn. Japan withdrew it in April 1993 following reports that the anti-mumps component was causing meningitis (it plans to introduce another version).

More:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7076




Measles epidemic strikes Japan
Justin Norrie, Tokyo
May 26, 2007

A RAMPANT measles epidemic has infected hundreds of Japanese students and frightened Tokyo universities and schools into sending more than 160,000 students home.

In just a few days the highly contagious illness has spread from Tokyo to outlying areas, affecting potentially thousands in their late teens and 20s.

The epidemic, believed to be Japan's worst in at least five years, has brought dozens of campuses to a standstill for more than a week. An unknown number of people have been hospitalised.

<snip>

Measles is passed on by coughing and sneezing. It causes pneumonia in one out of 20 cases, and brain inflammation and death in one out of every 1000.

<snip>
Japan is the only developed country to still experience large epidemics. The US, which introduced a double vaccination program in 1989, and Australia, which phased in a booster shot for measles from 1994, have largely eradicated the disease.
More:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/measles-epidemic-strikes-japan/2007/05/25/1179601669854.html





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