dawgman
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:23 PM
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Why is everyone surprised? |
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What has changed in the last 50 years?
The corporations and monied people own this country and all living in it. Ike warned us 50 years ago.
Dems and Repubs are no different. American Politics is the grandest and most expensive and most watched sporting event in the world but in reality it makes just about as much difference to me and mine as it does if the Minnesota Vikings win the superbowl.
The citizenry hasn't had any real power in this nation for a long time.
Robert Kaplan wrote about the Leavenworth KS military training that all up and coming officers go through. He wrote that most up and coming military officers go to Leavenworth at some point to learn how to "police".... domestically. He wrote it in Empire in the Wilderness years ago.
This has been coming down the pike for some time. Anyone who was paying attention could see.
Why is everyone here so surprised?
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:30 PM
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1. Why? because there are those of us, although naively, still held out hope. nt |
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:32 PM
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3. As a former boss of mine famously says "Hope is not a strategy" |
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So what now?
How do we fight for our country that so long ago lost its way?
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:35 PM
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5. given the current circumstances, if nothing changes within the first |
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100 days of Obama's presidency. I fear the worst will force change.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:37 PM
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6. I held out hope too, now I am ready to kick their asses. |
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just giving in to *'ie what he always wanted, and to remain free and it's a cover up.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:31 PM
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We've been through this again and again.
Mabye the Habeas Corpus vote gave us a little reason to hope... maybe we watched that and thought the Dems might stick together.
But after Obama caved... that was pretty much a signal that this wasn't going to go the way that bill did.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:34 PM
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4. Don't understand how anyone can be truly surprised |
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:shrug: no surprise here... because the more things change... the more they stay the same:banghead:
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:22 PM
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7. Pretty Damn Big Difference in Whom They Appoint to the Supreme Court |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:57 PM
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11. tokens for the masses. |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:24 PM
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8. Say it with me: cognitive diffidence |
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when we TLGB dems expressed concern we were just being overly sensitive... just sayin'....
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:24 PM
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9. No surprise. I've been asking for weeks what we could do when this happened. n/t |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:25 PM
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10. "Everyone" isn't surprised. |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:58 PM
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To quote my hero Frank Zappa; "Politics is the entertainment branch of industry"
I am just now beginning to understand stuff Frank observed DECADES AGO!
-90% Jimmy
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:59 PM
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13. I'm not at all surprised |
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DLC has been in control of the party ever since Clinton was elected, so any other outcome would have surprised me.
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:58 PM
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14. I hate to say it but this corporate take over pre-dates the DLC |
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