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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:54 PM
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So will anyone apologize to John Ramsey?

Especially the media talk show nuts who took great delight in declaring the Ramseys guilty, for the sake of their morning drive show ratings.

Sorry, this stuck in my craw for quite some time. I never had the feeling the Ramseys had anything to do with the death of their daughter. It never really fit. Now there's indisputable proof.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:55 PM
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1. And the mother died under a cloud of suspicion.
Sad all the way around.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:59 PM
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2. Imagine Geraldo apologizing?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:00 PM
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3. Help me. How is the presence of third-party DNA "indisputable proof"
that the Ramseys had nothing to do with it?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:00 PM
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4. Too little, too late.
This case was mishandled from Day One.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:07 PM
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5. Oh, Please. This proves nothing.
It is as plain as day that John and Patsy were involved in JonBenet's death.

It is also obvious that the Boulder police and DA's office were incompetent at best and probably enablers of a cover-up of the parent's guilt.

Big deal that Mary Lacy continues the cover-up for the scandalous way that office has been run for years and years and years.

Once again, this case shows that money and influence can buy you "justice" ... that's all.


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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:37 PM
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6. plain as day?
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 03:37 PM by tabatha
what is the proof?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:39 PM
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7. bullshit. prove it. it's been proven the other way.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:39 PM
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8. Nonsense.
They had nothing to do with it.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:43 PM
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10. agreed. n/t
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raebrek Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:47 PM
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11. I don't know much about the case.
So I will settle for a motive. What would motivate them to kill their daughter?

Raebrek!!!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:42 PM
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9. God, Patsy is dead and her daughter is dead. This leaves the father and son.
It's such a sad story I can't even fathom it. John Ramsey looks like he's aged twenty years.

I feel very badly for him. RIP to the dead family members.

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:58 PM
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12. Well the Boulder PD apologized...
and they bloody well should. They couldn't have done a worse job of initial investigation. It's because of them we're still hearing about this case and still have a murderer walking free.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:04 PM
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13. Their apology is worthless...
John Ramsay should take them to court for every penny they have.

Thanks to their incompetence, the real killer will never be found now.

Somewhere in Heaven, JonBenet just experienced a twinge of sadness. May it quickly be replaced with joy and comfort.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:11 PM
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15. yes--they screwed up royally. I wouldn't blame Ramsey if he sued.
The prosecutor did apologize, though--(different prosecutor than the original fuckup)
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:09 PM
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14. prosecutor said quote " I am deeply sorry."
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 04:11 PM by librechik
and widely published her letter. That's an apology, isn't it?
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:31 AM
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16. I was referring more to
media pundits, mainly talk radio idiots, who took delight in playing judge jury and executioner in this case, repeatedly, for the sake of their ratings. Should have been more clear in my original post...
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:45 AM
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17. Whenever a child is killed, family members are always the first suspects
Unless of course there is clear evidence pointing in another direction, which in this case there wasn't.

The Ramseys to some extent brought the suspicion on themselves by their behavior, hiring a PR firm, refusing to be interviewed by police, etc.

And the investigation was botched from the very beginning.

A sad episode all around, especially now that it is clear the real killer will never be found.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:43 AM
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18. Yes- what was with hiring the PR firm?
I do feel bad for the Ramseys if they are indeed innocent, but they did not help themselves with some of their actions in the aftermath of the killing.

If one of my children was murdered, hiring a high-powered PR firm would not be my first priority. And I would not try to stonewall the police.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:11 AM
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22. Easy answer

When the media is camped out on your lawn, trying to convict you as best they can, hiring a PR firm is not nearly as suspicious as it sounds.

For pete's sake, when Tom Koby was answering questions during the media frenzy, one of the reporters actually told him. "We'll help you get them!"

Koby answered (appropriately) with "Did you hear what you just said?"
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:47 AM
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21. I would never be interviewed by the police
It was clear they wanted to hang this on them from the get-go. Police are like vampires - never invite them into your house. It would have been easy to convict them, after all most people thought they did it anyway, what with the weird fashion show stuff.

Never talk to the police - it can only hurt you.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:25 PM
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24. So if your child is murdered, you will not help in the investigation? n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:29 PM
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25. If they were looking to frame me, no.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:46 AM
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19. Well, the Boulder DA DID apologize to John Ramsey.
To the extent that we may have contributed in any way to the public perception that you might have been involved in this crime, I am deeply sorry," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy wrote in a letter to the little girl's father, John Ramsey. "No innocent person should have to endure such an extensive trial in the court of public opinion."

:shrug:


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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:46 AM
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20. Will the media apologize for spewing this story upon us for the past 10 years?
:popcorn:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:14 AM
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23. I'd love to see Nancy Grace apologize to teh Ramseys
That would be worth watching.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:46 PM
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26. "indisputable proof?" The "new" DNA an exact match to DNA they already had.

If the old unmatched DNA didn't spark an "all clear" for the Ramseys, then how does the exact same DNA showing up in nearly the exact same spot spark an "indisputable proof" of anything?


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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:50 PM
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27. No. He *may not* be a murderder, but he's still a douchebag. n/t

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:54 PM
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28. he's anxious to get "exonerated" so he can run for repuke office again
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 01:59 PM by Lex
no doubt

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