Was There A Constitutional Convention Today? Did I Miss It?

[Wiley50]

All afternoon I've been hearing tell of how the fourth amendment was dead, that it was, somehow struck down today by a vote of the Senate.

Sorry. No, it's not quite that easy. The only way to change the Constitution is with a Constitutional Convention.

Yes amendments can be added or rescinded by Congress, but only with the ratification of the states. That didn't happen.

The next time you get busted for a few joints by some ambitious policeman and he didn't play by the rules. Providing you
have a good lawyer and an honest judge the Fourth Amendment will still prevent you from being convicted.

What happened today is that our elected crony capitalists pulled a scam to let their crony capitalist friends who run telecom companies off the hook for spying for an unelected junta. And, Yes I'm pissed off about it too.

But it's gonna take a lot more process than that to kill the Fourth Amendment.

[elocs]

1. You'll have a tough time convincing the Constitution is trashed,

"It's The End Of Our Country As We Know It" crowd here. Yep, the country is kaput, so we may as well cancel the elections in November because they won't be needed now.

[FiveGoodMen]

8. Election fraud, signing statements, non-representative reps

Yeah, that "goddamn piece of paper" is still alive and well.

[Fireweed247]

2. exactly- The Fourth Amendment Stands!

:applause:

Our Congress cannot pass legislation that ignores the Constitution therefore what they did is ILLEGAL and every one of them should be held accountable. It is a failure to uphold our constitution and treason. Our Fourth Amendment is the law, this legislation is illegal.

[Wiley50]

5. Of course It Does. and we're gonna have to kick some legislative asses over this one of these days

what they have done is illegal today, will still be illegal tomorrow and illegal when we get the reins of our country back.

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. But not a single Democratic ass, of course

No matter how traitorous they are, we can't lose the majority; that is far more important than any piddly little scrap of old paper. So suck it up and keep those Democratic Senators in office, there's a good little half-witted sheep.

[Ytzak]

3. The Constitution only means something if people defend it.

The leadership has chosen to ignore the Constitution. If the citizens role over and play dead, while thinking God that their all knowing, all wise, all loving leadership are willing to protect them, no matter what the cost to the Constitution, then the Constitution is dead.

[Fireweed247]

4. the 'leadership' and Congress must be thrown out of office ASAP

www.peacecandidates.com

[TexasObserver]

6. The constitution means whatever the Supreme Court says it means, so ...

... the ball game is getting the Supreme Court appointments.

[Wiley50]

7. That's why I think it's Time to Increase the Court From 9 to 15 members

It wouldn't be the first time it was done. The number is not set by the Constitution.

It would sure be nice for Obama to appoint 6 new, young, LIBERAL justices next year. And maybe some of our older liberal justices would want to retire so he can appoint even more.

It could shift the court way to the left for a long long time.

[TexasObserver]

9. It would require super majorities in the House and the Senate.

You'd need 60 bullet proof votes in the Senate to do that, and I don't see it happening.

FDR couldn't do it, and I doubt Obama could, even if he wanted to do it.

[kenny blankenship]

10. Are you referring to that old musty chit which is "just a goddamn piece of paper" again?

A Constitution is only of the slightest importance so long as it is being followed. If it is not followed it is injured. If it is ignored it ails and sickens. If it is violated in wholesale fashion, for years in secrecy and for years more in broad daylight, and if the trespasser is not held to account but absolved instead and his crimes declared all legal, then the Constitution is dead, buried and forgotten. You don't need a Convention for it, you need a Remembrance Society.

In lieu of flowers, the bereaved suggest you save your money for a run to the border.

[baldguy]

12. Any law is worthless if those who are responsible for enforcing the law ignore it instead.

The Constitution is officially being ignored.