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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:06 PM
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Phil "Enron Loophole" Gramm: America is a nation of whiners

Keep talking, McCain et al. Your campaign is just about over.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/gramm-mental-recession/

In an interview with the Washington Times today, former senator Phil Gramm, who is Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) “econ brain,” blamed the state of the economy on “the conviction of many Americans that economic conditions are the worst in two or three decades.” “You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession,” said Gramm.

Gramm decried the “constant whining” of the American people when it comes to the economy because he believes “we’ve never been more dominant”:

“We have sort of become a nation of whiners,” he said. “You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline” despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.

“We’ve never been more dominant; we’ve never had more natural advantages than we have today,” he said. “We have benefited greatly” from the globalization of the economy in the last 30 years.

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Couple that with the Social Security is a disgrace comment yesterday. I smell cooked goose.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:07 PM
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1. don't forget cigarettes to kill Iranians. nt
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:09 PM
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4. Thanks, that one too.
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:32 PM
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17. so, todays Koolade is not made from whine
drink it down everyone... sip it nice and slow
if you have lost your job, you're an ungrateful whiner
just fall in to place and make my money grow
listen to what I tell you 'cause I'm a winner
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:08 PM
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2. he's so out of touch it's pathetic
And someone remind him that the Middle Class does NOT want to be *More Dominant*. We'd just like the jobs to stay on OUR soil.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:08 PM
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3. Is Gramm a millionaire?
'nuff said.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:09 PM
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5. So Gramm is whining about whiners?
:rofl:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:11 PM
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8. exactly (you beat me to it)
snicker
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:10 PM
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6. This morning, Democracy Now had a piece w/ David Corn on Gramm creating mortgage mess:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/9/foreclosure_phil_journalist_david_corn_on

Foreclosure Phil: Journalist David Corn on How McCain Campaign Adviser Phil Gramm Helped Create the Subprime Mortgage Crisis

In the latest issue of Mother Jones magazine, David Corn writes, “Who’s to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown. Yet has Gramm been banished from the corridors of power? Reviled as the villain who bankrupted Middle America? Hardly. Now a well-paid executive at a Swiss bank, Gramm cochairs Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign and advises the Republican candidate on economic matters.”
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:11 PM
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7. When the Goddess was passing out Brains of the Best kind...She missed Phil
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:18 PM
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9. The man...
... is tripping.

Denial is a wonderful thing. When we've done something really wrong, and our conscience starts to kick in, denial saves the day.

"Dominant" my ass.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:20 PM
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10. as I was driving home I caught some radio program
talking about how we are now the world's biggest oil importer, biggest borrower, etc.

What planet is Philll Grammm on?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:23 PM
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11. Waste of oxygen. And Obama is the "elitist?!?"
It's astounding that the Repukes get away with branding Obama as the "elitist," given comments like this. Their enablers in the media are their best and most constant friends.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:24 PM
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12. Step right this way Gramm


We have the best view in the house reserved just for you :grr:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:36 PM
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24. Closest shave in town, Mr. Gramm?
The Barber is waiting.....
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:24 PM
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13. gramm can go to hell
what planet do they live on? they have such disdain for the American people, isn't anyone tired of this assault on us all?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:24 PM
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14. gramm can go to hell
what planet do they live on? they have such disdain for the American people, isn't anyone tired of this assault on us all?
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:29 PM
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15. You can say that again.
Oh, you did.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:30 PM
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16. "Major export boom" ?? Yeah. Jobs. n/t
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:59 PM
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18. Those damed whiners! We've outsourced all their jobs, robbed
their pension funds, killed off 4000+ military, stole 2 elections, screwed over the sick and elderly and killed off their right to privacy.....Sheesh, what the hell do they have to whine about anyway?!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:08 PM
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19. There was a great article a few years back on Gramm's upbringing in Georgia.
Seems that he was a failure. IIRC, he failed a grade in grammer school. Dumb as Georgia red clay. Phil Phail.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:57 PM
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20. Constant whining! Please, can somebody ask McCain whether or not
he agrees that Americans are "constant whiners" whose problems are all in their heads? PLEASE????
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:00 PM
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21. He's whining because Americans have woken up
and see who the real bastards are to blame for this mess.


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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:04 PM
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22. Americans are whiners,
said the rich, white guy. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:54 PM
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27. Americans are whiners said the rich, white guy that is primarily responsible for the mess.
Oh, and let's not forget his harpy of a wife that suckled Enron at her tit.
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scorpiogirl Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:37 PM
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23. That guy needs to STFU!
“We’ve never been more dominant; we’ve never had more natural advantages than we have today,” he said. “We have benefited greatly” from the globalization of the economy in the last 30 years.

When he says "we", he doesn't mean "us." That's for sure!
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:46 PM
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25. "we"????
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:23 AM
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29. We?
Who? Gramm and the frog he carries in his pocket?
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:48 PM
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26. Hmmm....Michelle was crucified for her "mean" comments, the media reaction to this will be...?
Oh wait....I already know the answer.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:01 PM
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28. Phil Gramm is an insane criminal
So is his wife.
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