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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:24 PM
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So in a few months we will be spying on them.
Everything is in place. Obama wins. Democrats totally in power. Finally the 75% majority will do some payback. We have the power to spy on them and get the goods to prosecute. Obama ain't so dumb. Be patient.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:25 PM
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1. Fuck that.
The Constitution of the United States is not some fucking toy.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:28 PM
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8. THANK YOU.
I think my head finally exploded reading the OP. :banghead:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:05 PM
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14. What Janesez said.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:25 PM
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2. That is NOT something we should celebrate, but rather mourn instead...
I care about the rights of all citizens, whether conservative, moderate, or liberal.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:26 PM
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3. Who's we?
I don't know anymore.

I think George Carlin is right. It's all just a big club, and you and I 'aint in it.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:23 PM
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17. jonathan turley said that too. i remember writing up a transcript for it
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 02:28 PM by orleans
probably from one of his conversations with randi.

on edit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2382566

Turley: well, it’s possible for civil liberties to be restored but it’s just very rare.

Randi: but will anybody--in your best guesstimate--be held accountable?

Turley: well, that is very doubtful. I’m willing to bet you that the democratic senate will not allow any effort, for example, to prosecute people who tortured for the american government. I mean, there are people out there who have been trained to torture people and have tortured people in the name of the u.s. government. And I can promise you this: the democrats will never allow those people to be identified and prosecuted and they will not pursue the president even once he’s out of office.

That’s part of the whole beltway mystique--is that they protect their own and parties mean very, very little. They’re all denizens in the same city and it’s about power. And principle has very little role in the city and I hate to say that and it may seem cynical but these are not principled people in this city and many of them are really bad people. Not all of them, but many of them are bad people. They don’t really believe in principle. They believe in power and once they get power I don’t think they’re going to be pursuing principle.

Randi: … power must be so cool…’cause nobody wants to let go of it

Turley: it’s intoxicating. The other fascinating thing is that all of these self-inflicted wounds of the bush administration, and of the democrats, are really due to this intoxicating effect of power. They get so detached they can’t even remember why they went into politics. When you sit down and talk to these people they can vaguely remember what motivated them and they can certainly speak of principle but they really are something different than as they started. I think the problem is that it’s a gradual bleeding that happens in this city.

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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:27 PM
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4. So abuse of the Fourth Amendment is OK if it is done by a Democrat?
What a fascist mentality. BTW who is the "we"? Are you going to be in charge of the NSA?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:27 PM
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5. Dream on...
O brave little one...
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:27 PM
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6. Welcome to DU
You seem pretty confident. Kind of reminds me of 2006 when the public's rising anti-Iraq War sentiment swept out the Republicans and gave the Democrats a majority in the House. How'd that work out for you?
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:28 PM
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7. Great, we can become assholes just like they are.
You ARE shitting us, aren't you?
:eyes:
:grr:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:29 PM
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9. How do you know the spying will be done solely against repugs?
Lots of groups in Washington dislike the netroots. Things aren't as black and white as you'd like it to be. :eyes:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:37 PM
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10. No! REALLY?
They'l stop spying on Canadians too?Hurray!!!
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:41 PM
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11. You completely forgot...
...the :sarcasm: smilie!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:43 PM
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12. Yes because the Democrats are a true opposition party just waiting for their opening!
:eyes:

You've watched too many superhero movies. No one is coming to save us and no one is coming to save the Iranians or the Iraqis. Almost all the Democrats are in league with big finance, big oil, and the military industrial project.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:48 PM
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13. "FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD"
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:09 PM
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15. what everyone else said. how could you POSSIBLY be glad that our constitution was
gutted yesterday by the democratic party?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:15 PM
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16. Not so fast...

I have the highest hopes for what Obama can achieve once he is in office, but he can't just snap his fingers and make the problems go away. Anyone who is elected to the office of President is somewhat compromised by the powers that be. When President Clinton was elected, he chose not to prosecute the previous administration for its crimes and allowed it all to be swept under the rug. Much of this came back to haunt us after he left office.
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