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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:22 PM
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My husband thinks there's something to this mental-recession idea and furthermore...
he predicts that the world economy will begin to improve the day Prezzydent Butch leaves office.



What say y'all?
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Lifetimedem Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:23 PM
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1. What does he do for a living?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:27 PM
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3. you'll die laughing if I tell you
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:29 PM
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5. Well, c'mon..tell us! :- )
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Lifetimedem Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:29 PM
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6. Mrs Graham is that you ?
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:34 PM
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8. He makes license plates?????
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:25 PM
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18. He's a psychiatrist! n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:29 PM
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21. Pickles? Is that you?
NAH.

:shrug:

-Hoot
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:24 PM
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22. LOL. He's in the
residential construction biz. Still holding on, still selling homes, no loss to local prop. values...thank Jah we moved to the Houston area or we'd be troubled.

H-town had a massive property crash, like, 20 years ago and since the recovery home values rise slow but steadily here...no crazy California market runups...plus the oilcos are making a killing and employment is good, particuliarly considering the rest of the country.

Strange for a DUer to be thankful she moved the TX 10 years ago. A totally citified gal from Chicago, no less, but it's NICE down here! Warm, subtropical climate, lower housing costs, no state tax, good schools, a very "international" population. It is simply easier to live & raise children here.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:25 PM
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2. I say that I and my IRA hope that he is right. nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:27 PM
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4. it's not a mental recession - "Bush; "we're facing challenging times"...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:34 PM
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7. It happened when Poppy left the WH.
But them was different times.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:28 PM
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23. It was also the end of the "war" -- after Desert Storm, we saw our
business DOUBLE in 6 months.

Companies were afraid to hire during a "war" b/c a war can mess up the economy, and back then there was also a real fear of an --EEK!-- increase in corporate taxes to fund it. LOL. Truefact.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:37 PM
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9. No offense, but your Husband is suffering from Terminal Magical Thinking.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:41 PM
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10. LOL! That's good n/t
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:44 PM
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11. I think there is a psycological component...
I also think that if more Americans knew just how up-shit-creek-without-a-paddle we really are, it would be a lot worse.

I don't think that it's all of it, though. The social and economic policies of almost 30 (mostly) uninterrupted years of Republicans have pretty much ruined us. Deregulation and tax breaks for corporations and the ultra rich have been a disaster.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:29 PM
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24. There is nothing we can't fix with good old American ingenuity.
Not time to give up, yet.

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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:47 PM
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12. Sure there's a psychological component... BUT
The main issue is that people can't afford to buy what they NEED to survive. Things like food, transportation, and housing.

The vast majority of America lives paycheck to paycheck. Those paychecks (if you're lucky enough to have one) isn't keeping up with costs and hasn't been for years. We've been running our consumer economy engine on pixie dust (credit), and we've run out of pixie dust.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:56 PM
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13. Any turnaround in the economy immediatly after the inauguration would be nothing but...
a dead cat bounce.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:02 PM
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14. There is nothing psychological about the devaluation
of my house,or my rising grocery bill,or the pump that reads over $60.00 when I fill up,or my rising insurance costs.I'm sure your husband means well(gotta love the eternal optimist)but we shouldn't minimize the havoc that has befallen us because of republican mismanagement of our government.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:05 PM
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15. I think there is massive emotional depression in the us of A... maybe it'll change in '09.
I hope so. :(
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:21 PM
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16. I don't think all the foreclosures, and gas prices, and...
rising food prices are only in my mind. I wish they were! I'd start taking some heavy drugs to change that! Take one for the team!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:23 PM
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17. but then the truth will come out...
really, after the November election, bush will be on fadeout, and the pigmedia will have no reason to lie....imagine the truth about the US dollar, or the real stock market after the Plunge Protection Team shuts down- inflation will start to runaway. During Carter years, inflation went double digits, and there was nothing Carter could do about it. One of the reasons Nicaragua elected a contra regime after years of Sandinista efforts to improve the lot of the workers and poor was because the US told them if they reelected a Sandanista government, they would get no help from the IMF or world bank etc; so the Nicaraguans bit the bullet and elected a rightwing regime. The american people are in the same situation. Unless the press can be made free and news be reported by every segment of the electorate, not just reactionarkies, like it was before 5 companies owned the press (not that the poor/powerless ever get fair deal from newsmedia- look how the press totally misrepresented what happened on the Titanic, where 2/3rds of the passengers were locked in!)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:33 PM
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25. Honest to Jah, my husband's great aunt perished on the Titanic...
now I'm wondering if she said "as soon as that iceberg moves we can get on with our trip".

Maybe denial runs in his family. But it has its benefits. Keeps 'em all in a good mood.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 07:52 PM
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27. the truth is too horrible...
when this is so, the media then fibs a bit, and the fibs become urban legends. The Titanic, jfk murder, 911, all are easier to replay as dramas with everything set up nice, and too bad if first class passengers look heroic/manly, or if the secret service team was drunk night before Nov22nd, or if the WTC was sold only a few weeks prior to the disaster, then insured- these details muddy the waters, so media ignore them, and demand history does too.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:28 PM
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19. This is an ideological recession.
It's where the Milton Friedman/Grover Norquist cult in government keeps doing the same things over and over again and expects different results.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:33 PM
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26. Truefact. More tinkle-down economics.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 07:49 PM
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20. We already have fuel and food shortages, drought/flooding and crop failure. I don't know
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 07:49 PM by GreenPartyVoter
how much things can improve, or if improvements can sustain themselves.
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