Schema Thing
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:27 AM
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If Telecoms have Immunity |
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Might this make the players in the Telecom industry more willing to testify against the players in the government side of this debacle?
Could that be an unintended silver lining?
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:29 AM
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1. No. Firstly, the phone companies want what they're doing kept secret.. |
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Secondly, the immunity prevents companies from being sued. It doesn't have to do with criminal cases.
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Fri Jul-11-08 12:55 PM
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8. ah, the second part of your comment addresses my OP |
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as to the first part, well of course they "want" what they're doing kept secret. Hence my OP.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:30 AM
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What would be their motivation to turn on their pals? Certainly not a plea bargain.
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Fri Jul-11-08 12:51 PM
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:31 AM
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3. The Congress could subpoena a few of them.... |
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and see what happens? Before they are sworn in, they are given full immunity. However, they must be truthful in their responses or they could be charged with perjury. I think that might be a good thing for the Congress to do.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:51 AM
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4. They went along with Bushco in the beginning because I'm pretty sure |
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they got special considerations for their compliance. I don't think they did it for 'nothing', and I'm sure they didn't do it out of patriotism.
There was probably a lot of wheeling and dealing going on. They wouldn't want to let that info become known.
I think it will have to be another whistleblower.
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Fri Jul-11-08 11:15 AM
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I have no doubt. We, the taxpayers, paid them to screw us.
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Fri Jul-11-08 12:52 PM
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7. Who gives a shit what info they want to "become known"? |
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Edited on Fri Jul-11-08 12:53 PM by AchtungToddler
that's why it might be nice to be able to compel them to testify. At that point, they don't get to chose what they talk about.
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:28 PM
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9. No, it helps them to stay silent. |
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They could not refuse to answer questions in discovery or trial of civil matters, at least without suggesting they thought they might have committed a crime. Even then, they'd have to invoke the 5th, refuse to give testimony, and that would sink the telecoms in their civil cases.
Civil cases therefore offer a better opportunity to develop evidence than criminal matters. With criminal matters, they all lawyer up and say nothing.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:05 PM
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10. Well honestly, in the big scheme of things, I'm far more interested |
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in punishing the people in governmental power who engaged in criminal activity, than I am in punishing corporations.
It's disgusting that Telecoms did what they did, but it's far more disgusting that they where asked to do so by the executive branch.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:49 PM
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11. If telecomms can have immunity, why can't I? Make mine retroactive. |
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