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lets all pray for his family and wish them the best.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:14 AM
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2. Why are you watching FOX? |
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Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:15 AM by briv1016
Anyway, he was an asshole but he was a person. RIP
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:15 AM
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:17 AM
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6. I was just checking what was on all the news channels... |
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It's right next to MSNBC on my cable...
I thought it was noteworthy.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:23 AM
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8. You really shouldn't have to explain you know |
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:37 AM
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58. Thanks for your concern. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:14 AM
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3. Just heard it on MSNBC |
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I was just wondering the other day how he was doing.
His poor family.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:21 AM
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7. That's weird but I just was thinking of him the other day too |
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and thinking we hadn't heard anything about him in a while.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:14 AM
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4. Condolences to his family. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:27 AM
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if he cared about someone other than himself He's going to have fake mourning when he's probably thinking.."at least this one can't write a book."
I'm sorry Mr Snow had cancer but the existence and death due to cancer does not suddenly make him a saint.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:57 AM
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31. How true. Gone before a book deal. |
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chimpy wipes his forehead in relief. Although, Snow always seemed to really enjoy and take pride in his War Crimes propaganda.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:05 AM
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60. What are you talking about? I didn't mention W, Snow or sainthood. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:23 AM
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9. He was the best liar the War Criminals had. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:29 AM
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leave politics out of this. its a time for prayer.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:37 AM
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I don't do prayer. I feel for his family, but do not honor the man. He was the spokesliar for a criminal regime.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:25 AM
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10. A "Trooper" To The End |
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May he rest in peace...and hope he found some in his last days.
A credit to the man who fought this illness and while we didn't agree on things politically, I did admire his fight over such a debilitating illness. This is something you don't wish on anyone.
Here's hoping the best for his family and that they have been provided for...
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:39 AM
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Yes, he lied for this regime and was part of a massive spin machine that was intended to decieve people, but he was not a part of this regime when the decisions were made to go into Iraq. His "crimes" were of being a mercenary but surely not a decision maker.
Unfortunately, what he said is what a lot of American people wanted to hear...and why he and Faux rose in both popularity and power. That's another issue for another day. Right now let the man and his family rest. I've seen too many close friends and family lose their battles to cancer...it's a terrible way to go...and may it never happen to you or yours.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:40 AM
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23. Tony Snow was hardly a poor man..heck he wasn't even |
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middle class. I'm sure his family is well provided for. If anything the Republican party should pay his family off just for the work Tony did in lying for them all these years. His lies didn't start with the Iraq war or even with Fox news; he lied his way through the 1990s when he was a frequent guest host for Rush Limbaugh when Rush was on one of his many vacations.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:03 AM
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32. I've Trashed Him The Past... |
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...and once he's in the ground, I'm sure I'll be back at trashing his legacy. I am well aware of this man's background...he was an "Atwater boy" who was planted in the media in the late 80's and early 90's to manipulate the "news"...he may have had money, but in the end, inside, when you're stricken with such a terrible illness, you and those around you are very poor...many economically, almost all emotionally.
Be assured that if the corporate media attempts to turn his passing into another Russert Memorial I will direct plenty of verbage at all the corruption and lies this man presented over the years, but for this moment, the man suffered a terrible death and there should be a little decorum, even around here to recognize that fact.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:38 AM
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40. I'm with you Karma Train |
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He was wrong. He was tragically wrong. He was human.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:27 AM
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65. Very well said, and I totally agree. |
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I lost my Dad to cancer, and Tony Snow also remained a "trooper" to the end, retaining his sense of humor, which most conservatives don't have. I enjoyed hearing from him. My heart goes out to his family...
Rhiannon ;(
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:27 AM
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12. My condolences to his family |
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:34 AM
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16. Of course you know that Faux Snooze is going to attempt to |
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canonize him like NBC did Tim Russert a few weeks back. I'm sorry he died, I feel for his family but he did a lot of harm and carried the water for a bunch of lying crooks while alive.
It will be 24/7 on Snow because the MSM love nothing better than to push the idea they are all just so darn important and do such a fine job despite reams of proof that suggest otherwise. If you can't get a waste treatment plant named after you the least they MSM can do is give the deceased the airwaves for a couple of weeks.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:38 AM
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19. I have no intention of watching Fox |
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My father died of cancer a few years back. It's a horrible thing to go through, which is why I'm offering my condolences to his family.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:38 AM
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20. Even people on this board will try to canonize |
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him now that he's dead. If someone was a liar and a propagandist when living, their death does not suddenly make them a saint. When he had access to power and to the media he did not use it wisely nor for the good of all.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:17 AM
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35. And that matters to you why? It affects your life how? |
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God, some of you people need to get a fuckin' life.
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:12 AM
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Hating someone merely because of their political preference is a waste of precious time and energy. I will wish his family & friends my sympathies. We should all strive to be adult enough to do the same here. And if you can't muster the emotion, fake it. That's what's wrong with this country now: bitter, divisive politics which in the end, gets absolutely nothing accomplished.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:12 PM
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In looking at my friends, and people whom I dislike (I don't have any "enemies", but I have people I don't like), there's a pretty fair smattering of political diversity.
Somebody's political leanings seem to have little to do in my experience with their kindness (or lack thereof), friendshipcompatibilityquotient(tm), or any of that stuff.
I don't know Snow, and for all I know he may have been a jerk. The impression I get from those that knew him and talked about him was that he was a caring father, and had a good sense of humour.
Was he wrong on umpteen political issues? Sure.
It's not canonization to say he seemed like a pretty interesting person and a nice guy.
Fwiw, there are guys who work in the Senate, House, etc. who have VERY different political views, but are best friends.
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:13 AM
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49. My comments affect your life how? Pretty snarky if ya ask me. |
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This thread is about Snow's death and his legacy. I said I was sorry he died and feel for his family but his "pals" will do everything to re-write history - a lot like they did for St. Ronnie. Why would you get your panties in a wad over a simple comment? And my life is just fine but apparently you have some "issues."
And your frog is ugly.
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:36 AM
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57. Maddy, I appreciate the hell out of you and always have respected you |
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even going so far as to not enter a conversation when I completely disagreed with you, unlike most other folks where I'd say what I think anyway.. But on this count I gotta call bullshit on how Snow May have affected people or a person, personally..
These people like Snow are totally Complicit in the deaths of thousands of innocent people if not more.
The actions of Karl Rove in Alabama, stacking the courts there, including their Supreme court resulted in ME having to spend upwards of a couple of hundred thousand bucks (money I could use NOW as we're dead broke and being foreclosed on), hiring SIX lawyers, and spending 21 Days in an Alabama County Jail that's been compared to a South African Prison by Congress..
I nearly lost my big toe there ( and my mind) due to nasty infections, slept on a concrete floor with arthritis of the spine, and lost 20 lbs.
All while my wife was pregnant.
I'll never get over it, can never get that part of my life back, and could have easily been killed in there in a heartbeat. The other side had printed out my website and waved it before a Right Wing Christian Judge who'd been installed through vote theft, electronic style, and using Abramoff money.
Please think about how these Fascist assholes DO destroy people Personally.
Its VERY REAL what these monsters have done. While I feel for Snows family, having lost my mother as a kid to breast cancer, a horrifying experience I Personally hope Snow and his Ilk ROT in Hell.
But that's just me. :)
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:33 PM
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68. Oh, Symbolman. I didn't know.... |
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always a good thing, there's good that comes from bad tho.. At the same time I languished in that hellhole my wife was interviewing Don Seigelman, who is one of the most important people in the US, the insertion point that can break up the politiciation of the DOJ, and with any luck JAIL Karl Rove :)
Appreciate you...
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:22 PM
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74. Young journalists will think Tony Snow led a honorable life |
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And a few more media folk will drift to the dark side.
Which is bad.
Unless, of course, you LIKE the current MSM...
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:15 AM
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34. It Should...It's A Terrible Way To Die |
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It appears some here never had experienced the loss of a loved one to this killer or they'd have a little more compassion. To watch a loved one waste away is a slow torture and living with all the pain and anguish makes things even worse.
I lost my father to cancer and my mother to altzheimers...both took people who were very active and made them prisoners in their own bodies. This is a big reason we need a better, preventitive oriented healthcare system in this country. Too many people suffer from this illness privately and don't get diganosed until it's become too late.
Cheers...
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:39 AM
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21. He was brave and courageous in his fight against cancer... |
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whether or not you liked his politics.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:42 AM
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We may have never seen eye to eye on things, but you seemed like a decent dude, nonetheless.
Rest in peace.:(
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:48 AM
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51. Send condolences if you like to his family |
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BUT HE WAS NOT A DECENT DUDE!
PLEASE!
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He may have been a conservative and did work for FIXED News, and I couldn't have disagreed with him more, but he actually was a decent person, a man who loved life, and his job, and dealt with everyone with a sense of humor, unlike other contributors to FIXED News, or past and present White House Press Secretaries. I enjoyed hearing from him and genuinely do mourn his passing.
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Sat Jul-12-08 05:07 PM
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76. He was a spokesman for the biggest war criminals |
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next to Hitler. Thousands have died and suffered for the regime which he spoke for. Yea, other than that he was a great guy.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:06 PM
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78. I totally agree with you that he spoke for evil people, but I don't think that he was evil. |
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He brought civility and humor to the White House press conferences and I enjoyed hearing from him. He loved the give and take, and that was enjoyable. The robot that took his place is not. I'm sorry, but I enjoyed Tony Snow. I think, at heart, he was one of us... :shrug:
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I'm sorry but there is no way to characterize that without getting thrown off the board. That a spell was cast and made him into a robot is just ludicrous. And before that he was one of us? He was not, well maybe by those who are faux loving pretend democrats, that think Karl Rove and his war loving regime are just dandy for the world. Spew that revisionist b.s. elsewhere, it's just ignorant.
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Sun Jul-13-08 11:14 AM
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81. No, Tony Snow was never one of us, and never pretended to be. |
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What went on with Tony Snow was that he was a genuine human being, enjoyed people, and the give and take with the White House reporters. I enjoyed his press conferences, unlike the painful ones with the odious Ari Fleisher, poor sweating Scottie McClellan, forced to tell lies, or the robot they've got there now. And I have missed him. He was a nice guy. That's all. :shrug:
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Sun Jul-13-08 04:51 PM
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84. if he enjoyed people so much why? |
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was he the spokesman for an administration that killed so many? I hear Joseph Goebbels was a delightful fellow as well!
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85. Tony Snow was with the wrong party, is all. My Dad was also a registered Republican, |
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but he accepted everyone, anyway, even me. Some of his best friends were Democrats. That's how I think of Tony Snow, a nice guy who liked everyone, but died well before his time, just like my Dad. And Tony Snow did a better job, with a sense of humor, especially as any press secretary, before or since. He liked people, which made him credible to me. ;(
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:46 AM
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..... a likeable guy personality-wise. We disagreed on many things.... most things. I never liked nor hated him for that.
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:51 AM
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28. another RW propagandist, oops 'journalist', bites the big one |
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let the canonization begin!
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:52 AM
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29. Sernding warm thoughts to his wife & children. |
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His professional behavior, while he was so terribly ill, was the one and only example I can think of where a Bush WH official displayed great personal courage.
Too bad about his misguided politcs. Does anybody here think he had an epiphany at some point? Hope he did.
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Our Chamber of Commerce had him speak here in December. I sort of expected at least some "inside poop". It was a Bush cheerleading speech.
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and 53 is young in our time.
"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones." -- Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"
Today we mourn the good. We'll talk about the evil of being a powerful voice that was 100% wrong later.
My sympathies go to his family. It is never easy to lose a father, son, husband, brother.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:19 AM
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36. Shakespeare (via Marc Antony) was wrong... |
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...It seems to me the evil is most often interred while the good, regardless of how abundant, is what lives on afterward. I've seen far too many assholes lionized to believe otherwise.
Of course, most folks are actually mourning their own mortality as much as anything the deceased encompassed.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:41 AM
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41. Most people mourn the finality of the whole thing |
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I still miss my parents, the only family I had, and often find myself starting to pick up the phone to share some outrageous triviality with them. I'm still mourning the fact that I've been stuck here alone, years after their deaths.
I'm actually happy that they're not here to see what the conservatives have done to the country they loved, not here to face Depression II, which is what it looks like we're heading for. They suffered enough in Part I.
I mourn because I miss them.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:23 AM
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of 56. I can emphathize with the feelings of his family. It's awful to see someone you love go through what they do.
But I sure won't canonize Tony Snow. He was Bushco's man to the end and that should count against him for sure. I don't appreciate a person who made it his business to lie through his teeth everyday and he sure seemed to enjoy it.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:38 AM
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38. But if we cannot find sympathy in death...? |
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What would we expect when we die? We should not become as those that we despise. Humanity has a higher calling.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:42 AM
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42. I agree with your sentiment |
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"Today we mourn the good. We'll talk about the evil of being a powerful voice that was 100% wrong later."
There's plenty of time to critique, analyze and tear him apart later.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:48 AM
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44. I absolutely agree. Thank you for saying that. |
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and those who cared about him find peace and never ever Google and find the threads that will surely pop up on DU.
I wish him peace and the opportunity to expand his mind if there is an afterlife.
Death is not political.
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:54 AM
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45. He has had a death mask for months |
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Surprised he lasted as long as he did. My thoughts to his family.
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He has not looked healthy for a very long time. I'm sorry for his family.
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At some point in time we'll all be joining you Peace
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47. How very sad that it should happen to someone so young. |
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I hope his family's suffering is now over.
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52. Cancer is a horrible, horrible disease. |
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54. How sad that he had to die at such a young age and from such a horrible disease. |
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He certainly did all he could to fight it and he continued to work as long as he could. I feel so bad for his family. This is not easy for them. We may not have agreed with him most of the time, but we should all be in agreement on how devastating cancer is and how horribly it affects a family. May he rest in peace and his family find some peace also.
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:18 AM
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55. too young. we should have beaten cancer by now. |
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56. I'm glad that his pain is over and wish his family what comfort they can find.... |
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I did not admire the man's politics but an early death from a hideous disease is always a tragedy.
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:38 AM
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59. Tony Snow Escapes Justice at age 53 |
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82. true-but there's always a Higher Authority one must face IMO |
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:09 AM
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61. Rest in peace. My sympathy to his family and friends. nt |
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:23 AM
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63. My condolences to his family and loved ones. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:25 AM
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64. Sorry to hear that. Cancer is an awful disease and kills so many. |
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I hope that there will soon be better treatments, and many more people will be cured.
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Sat Jul-12-08 11:35 AM
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66. Far too young. RIP Tony. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:24 PM
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67. I thought he was older than that. |
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That's a shame. 53 isn't old at all.
Cancer is a horrible way to go.
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:36 PM
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69. Condolences to the Snow family in their time of grief. nt |
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:55 PM
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:00 PM
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72. rip, my condolences to family, friends. eom |
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:16 PM
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see ya tony. No offense meant, but I didn't know the guy any more than he knew me.
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Sat Jul-12-08 05:31 PM
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77. My condolences to his victims |
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May they inhabit a different realm than he.
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